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General_Soulhunter #1 Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:55 AM

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which one is the best player indicator? discuss   :Smile-bajan2:

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FeeTFooD #2 Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:57 AM

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They're all equal in some respects, with different weighting.

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The best one is clearly the one that is easiest to pad.

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W/R- Up to about 54%, shows how much they carry.
Above 54%, shows how much they platoon.

Eff: Shows how much they cap.

WN7- shows how much damage they do.

If we could see a flat avg exp stat, with no multipliers for winning or premium account, it'd be the most accurate stat.


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View PostMick666, on 11 March 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

Above 54%, shows how much they platoon.

Calling BS on this.

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There is no one stat which says you are a good player. All stats need to be looked at together. Most stats are geared towards mess/heavy tank, however a good light player might not do as much damage but be an effective enabler for others to do damage. All those stats don't reward that cause it is a stat not tracked.

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View PostFeeTFooD, on 11 March 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

They're all equal in some respects, with different weighting.

no intel comment, more like ape kind

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:Smile-hiding: Stats are to a point open to interpretation and personal opinion, as can be plainly seen by the amount of threads/posts that stats generate.
As i am plainly CrapAtTanks, hence why i adopted this username, the above opinion may be taken with a grain of salt
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View PostZorroSolarWindSniper2012, on 11 March 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

no intel comment, more like ape kind
At least theirs resembled english.

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I wasn't going to respond to that, but I decided I will anyway.

   Looking at ANY metrics for you, you are a horrible player who refuses to learn. You even create an alt account and keep trolling AFTER recieving multiple warnings for being a troll before. You're probably just a 15 year old punk with no self esteem who can't handle any criticism due to the DK effect.

   Also, win % can show how much you influence your team. Below 48% and you're probably the reason your team loses, above 50% and you are probably an influence on your team.

   Low winrate with high eff and low wn7, you're a low tier scrub who caps and defends base a lot.
   High winrate, low wn7 and high eff, baby seal clubber who is too scared to advance in the game
   Low winrate, high wn7 and low eff, you pull your weight in game, don't cap and probably don't platoon.



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View PostGeneral_Soulhunter, on 11 March 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

which one is the best player indicator? discuss   :Smile-bajan2:

On any given day, ill just take the best one of mine!

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yet to see stat that consider spotted damage.. this would greatly display who is good at scouting  :Smile_sceptic:

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View PostFeeTFooD, on 11 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

   High winrate, low wn7 and high eff, baby seal clubber who is too scared to advance in the game
... or you play a lot of scouts.

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View PostStompya, on 11 March 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:



Calling BS on this.
Revans are not bound by this metric;

And if very skilled you can reach that solo pubbing. But its more commonly from platoons.


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View PostStom_The_Mighty, on 11 March 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

There is no one stat which says you are a good player. All stats need to be looked at together. Most stats are geared towards mess/heavy tank, however a good light player might not do as much damage but be an effective enabler for others to do damage. All those stats don't reward that cause it is a stat not tracked.


I shall agree with this one,

W/R (battle random - doesn't really proof he is good or bad, if u team up with people who cannot aim shoot or like to rush to the enermies and get slaughtered by a pro group of enermies) and newbies, THEN..chances is u will be wacked by a group of enermies later, and how can anyone kill all if all is attacking u at once? ~ if have please prove it by attaching his battling own experiences video clips here to prove his point, other wise he is nothing but talking crap; talking is cheap.

or U have a team killer which kills own team mate thus causing the team to losing. does it shows you are more pro if u get more wins?) W/R is/should reclass as luck status because its pure luck, everyone knows that, only idiots says W/R is a good way to judge if he is good, or he is spouting nonsenses or trying to misled forum readers.

WN7 - damage yes-this I agree: coz it shows the damages or kills he can do in the game, and whether he is aiding his comrades or killing his own team in battle which can really turn tide of the war to win or lost, as I personally have encounter during this sort battle before (sorry forgot to save printscreen,next time I shall attach a printscreen image of this kind of incident and put it here), where I was the last one standing against last 5 tanks in the game.
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View PostEzz, on 11 March 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

... or you play a lot of scouts.


scouting is also a skill to learn and if u can really master it : u are also efficient to help arty to spot enermy  during battle.
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View PostFeeTFooD, on 11 March 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I wasn't going to respond to that, but I decided I will anyway. Looking at ANY metrics for you, you are a horrible player who refuses to learn. You even create an alt account and keep trolling AFTER recieving multiple warnings for being a troll before. You're probably just a 15 year old punk with no self esteem who can't handle any criticism due to the DK effect. Also, win % can show how much you influence your team. Below 48% and you're probably the reason your team loses, above 50% and you are probably an influence on your team. Low winrate with high eff and low wn7, you're a low tier scrub who caps and defends base a lot. High winrate, low wn7 and high eff, baby seal clubber who is too scared to advance in the game Low winrate, high wn7 and low eff, you pull your weight in game, don't cap and probably don't platoon.

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Is FG_ still on R/O? Shame really, this thread seems to be right up his/her alley, as does someone like ZorroSolar Windzor2012. Zor.

In the absence of any better metric, and due to any game having the goal of winning, I nominate win rate to be a good metric, dependant on tiers played etc. Bads toon with bads, goods toon with goods, unicums toon with unicums, natyurally the better players will continue to win, and more so when tooned.


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View PostZorroSolarWindSniper2012, on 11 March 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

I shall agree with this one,

W/R (battle random - doesn't really proof he is good or bad, if u team up with people who cannot aim shoot or like to rush to the enermies and get slaughtered by a pro group of enermies) and newbies, THEN..chances is u will be wacked by a group of enermies later, and how can anyone kill all if all is attacking u at once? ~ if have please prove it by attaching his battling own experiences video clips here to prove his point, other wise he is nothing but talking crap; talking is cheap.

or U have a team killer which kills own team mate thus causing the team to losing. does it shows you are more pro if u get more wins?) W/R is/should reclass as luck status because its pure luck, everyone knows that, only idiots says W/R is a good way to judge if he is good, or he is spouting nonsenses or trying to misled forum readers.

WN7 - damage yes-this I agree: coz it shows the damages or kills he can do in the game, and whether he is aiding his comrades or killing his own team in battle which can really turn tide of the war to win or lost, as I personally have encounter during this sort battle before (sorry forgot to save printscreen,next time I shall attach a printscreen image of this kind of incident and put it here), where I was the last one standing against last 5 tanks in the game.

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