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wra1th84 #21 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:01 PM

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the 13th/18th were equipped with Saracens APCs...

the 13th/18th were traditionally a fast cav regiment (looooong loooooong time ago), and subsequently mechanized with light tanks during WW2...

post-WW2, they were equipped with saracens and probably saladins to better fulfil their role as reconnaissance  troopers...

anyways, they were in Malaya for a very short period of time to assist in the Malaya Emergency...
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Yekaterina #22 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:03 PM

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May have been the 8th with the Cromwells then. Lord knows its been forever since Ive properly looked up the UK's OOB.

I probably should dig around again.

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wra1th84 #23 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:08 PM

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and no... singapore never had 13/90...

all amx 13s in singapore were modified... the modifications were mainly engine (turbo-charged), transmissions and signals... guns remained unchanged... as the belief then was that the terrain was unsuitable for large MBTs and so... 75mm APFSDS rounds will suffice...

inside joke is that the SM-1 is an abbreviation for Singapore made one...
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wra1th84 #24 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:12 PM

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tempest is an "open secret"... it was a fairly well-kept secret until tim huxley published "Defending the Lion City"... which spilled the beans about us having another tank other than the SM-1...

Tempest is the exact same centurion as the ones used by the israelis... the Sho't, which many of you are familiar with... we did not do much modifications to it...

the tanks were in singapore... and a small number in taiwan... only 1 battalion worth of these tanks were around... and you never see them in any army posters or on national day parade... because it supah-sekret...
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Wise words from the intel officer!

wra1th84 #26 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:17 PM

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View PostISG_Seahchye, on 03 June 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

Wise words from the intel officer!

shhhhhhhhh... later your MP brudders come and catch me...
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Yiren #27 Posted 03 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

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View Postwra1th84, on 03 June 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

and no... singapore never had 13/90...
all amx 13s in singapore were modified... the modifications were mainly engine (turbo-charged), transmissions and signals... guns remained unchanged... as the belief then was that the terrain was unsuitable for large MBTs and so... 75mm APFSDS rounds will suffice...

OK, seems quite clear & conclusive that we did not have any AMX 13/90.  I'll revise the list.

View PostYekaterina, on 02 June 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

13/18th Hussars were equipped with later marks of the Cromwell while in Malaya iirc.

View Postwra1th84, on 03 June 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

the 13th/18th were equipped with Saracens APCs...
the 13th/18th were traditionally a fast cav regiment (looooong loooooong time ago), and subsequently mechanized with light tanks during WW2...
post-WW2, they were equipped with saracens and probably saladins to better fulfil their role as reconnaissance  troopers...
anyways, they were in Malaya for a very short period of time to assist in the Malaya Emergency...

View PostYekaterina, on 03 June 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

May have been the 8th with the Cromwells then. Lord knows its been forever since Ive properly looked up the UK's OOB.
I probably should dig around again.

Ah good.  The 13th/18th Hussars were definitely based in Nee Soon, so definitely "Singapore".  Game does not have APCs (Saracen or Saladin), but I'll put Cromwell as a "to be confirmed" in the list.

My thanks to Wrath & Yekaterina.  Do dig around for UK's OOB...   :blinky:


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Yekaterina #28 Posted 03 June 2013 - 05:29 PM

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It was my carelessness apparently, it would be the 8th, rather than the 18th.

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wra1th84 #29 Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:23 PM

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View PostYekaterina, on 03 June 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

It was my carelessness apparently, it would be the 8th, rather than the 18th.

lol... for all you know... i could be mistaken too... but i'm very sure that B squadron of 13th/18th were equipped with saracen apc...
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ZuluMike #30 Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:16 PM

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Might as well add Leopard 1.  Since its descendent is now SG MBT

smx88 #31 Posted 10 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

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View PostYiren, on 24 May 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

OK.  It seems the consensus is that we didn't operate AMX-13/90.  I'll leave the tank in the list just for a little longer, in case someone else has new definitive information.
I have a new question to try to flesh out our Singapore tech tree a bit (esp between the 1950s to the 1970s):

What tanks did the *British* operate in Singapore after WWII & before our Independence?

I am thinking that if I change the premise to tanks operated *in* Singapore (the territory) by whoever is the government of the day, then this allows our tech tree to be a little more complete & to have tanks starting Tier III (Chi-Ha) and going all the way up to Tier IX (Centurion Mk 7/1).  Thus this question hopefully fills out the current Tier IV to VI gap in the list.


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I operated the AMX13-75 as a tank gunner until right before it was decommissioned.
There isnt a 90mm version.

Yiren #32 Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:43 PM

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View Postsmx88, on 10 June 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

I operated the AMX13-75 as a tank gunner until right before it was decommissioned.
There isnt a 90mm version.

Thanks, SMX88.  List updated to exclude.
And very cool that you are a tank gunner.  What skills or perks did you have in real life? :hiding:

View PostHeng_CM, on 08 June 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

Might as well add Leopard 1.  Since its descendent is now SG MBT

I thought about this, but I feel that every tank has many predecessors.  More historically accurate if the list only includes tanks that have actually operated in Singapore...

View PostYekaterina, on 03 June 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

It was my carelessness apparently, it would be the 8th, rather than the 18th.

Sigh.  Back to research then.  Quite difficult to find out what British tanks were based in Singapore after WWII.   :sad:


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can cfm SM1 is only a 75mm gun.never see us use a 90mm.
SM1 driver here.

Vach #34 Posted 10 July 2013 - 10:45 AM

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One of the Armoured Combat Engineer vehicle is based on M60 Chassis.

That thing's interior is huge. Maybe cos there wasn't any live rounds in it.

I'm a Combat engineer bridging spec. I've ferried lots of vehicles that's in SAF.

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homingk #35 Posted 23 July 2013 - 08:27 PM

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M60 armoured combat enginnering is called M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle with a 165mm mortar.  Still in service and is the largest gun in SAF with about 20kg of explosive for a very huge crater on  anything.  http://en.wikipedia....ngineer_Vehicle

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Going back to the Malayan Emergency, I watched a documentary & flipped a couple of books quickly, but cannot find any references to tanks -- only APCs. Need other experts to give inputs. For now, seems to be that no tanks operated in Singapore or from Singapore post WWII until after we became independent.

(Side note is that I'm now only 40,000 XP from my AMX13-75 due to good event bonus last week for National Day. Slowly grinding whenever I have time, which is not frequently.)

Happy National Day, fellow Singaporeans!


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hwloke66 #37 Posted 13 August 2013 - 05:58 PM

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Hi,

I was told Singapore also had AMX 10... whereby they used it for coastal assault.

There were many tanks that SG Army had tested, but I can confirm SG had AMX13 75 (no 13-90) during the early 80s... then SM-1 (hull modified AMX13 75) and now incorporating d modern Leopard 2 as its MAIN BATTLE TANK.

The Centurion or Tempest was mounted w 105mm gun, so I guess it was a MK7.

As I was told the reason y the army got the AMX n Centurion was b’cos of its awesome gun accuracy …. U guys could hv noticed it in the game and it did juz the same in reality (1 shot 1 hit).

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View Posthwloke66, on 13 August 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Hi,

I was told Singapore also had AMX 10... whereby they used it for coastal assault.

There were many tanks that SG Army had tested, but I can confirm SG had AMX13 75 (no 13-90) during the early 80s... then SM-1 (hull modified AMX13 75) and now incorporating d modern Leopard 2 as its MAIN BATTLE TANK.

The Centurion or Tempest was mounted w 105mm gun, so I guess it was a MK7.

As I was told the reason y the army got the AMX n Centurion was b’cos of its awesome gun accuracy …. U guys could hv noticed it in the game and it did juz the same in reality (1 shot 1 hit).

Thanks, Loke.  I've captured all the above into the Tech Tree.  The gap now is the period from post-WWII to pre-independence (1945 to 1965).  Completely in the dark on whether there were any tanks based in Singapore by the UK at that time.  Really tough to get info...

Agree with accuracy of the AMX (at least the AMX12t) that I now have.   : )   34,000 XP from AMX13-75...

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View PostYiren, on 14 August 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Thanks, Loke.  I've captured all the above into the Tech Tree.  The gap now is the period from post-WWII to pre-independence (1945 to 1965).  Completely in the dark on whether there were any tanks based in Singapore by the UK at that time.  Really tough to get info...

Agree with accuracy of the AMX (at least the AMX12t) that I now have.   : )   34,000 XP from AMX13-75...

Forget about that period, the British army left us with nothing when SG were independence.

SG army was trained by the Israeli and got some support from Australia & New Zealand.

If there were tanks deployed in the region, it will be stationed in Malaysia.

Enjoy grinding up the tier, u will enjoy the 75… latter the 90 (Like what I did  :tongue: )

Juz got my 13 90 last week … the gun is power

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British army left us 25 pounder guns still use for ceremonial purpose....! We bought a lot of British military hardware for S$1, from bloodhound SAM missile to Lee Enfield sniper rifle.




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