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ContentWG #1 Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:42 AM

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Read about the list of changes that will occur in our transition to Update 8.9.

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Preliminary patch notes lack information e.g. the armour model changes..
Well i checked ftr and they have shown the armour changes with the accompanied needed information.
http://ftr.wot-news....larmor-changes/

 


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  • Removed the rule for HEAT shells that excludes ricochet if the shell's caliber exceeds the armor thickness in 3 or more times.
  • Deflection angle for HEAT shells changed from 80 to 85 degrees.
What does the first one mean? Heat now wont deflect on 1/3 thickness armor?
Also the second one, more bounces from HEAT if not nearly hitting the armor perpendicular?
 

 


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View PostNK75_Metal, on 14 October 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

  • Removed the rule for HEAT shells that excludes ricochet if the shell's caliber exceeds the armor thickness in 3 or more times.
  • Deflection angle for HEAT shells changed from 80 to 85 degrees.
What does the first one mean? Heat now wont deflect on 1/3 thickness armor?
Also the second one, more bounces from HEAT if not nearly hitting the armor perpendicular?
First one is that heat shells don't 3x overmatch - my guess is because a heat shells penetration is based on the tip striking at a suitable angle - then doing it's heat thing - hence the caliber of the shell would not necessarily give any overmatch advantage.
Second one i read that the other way around - they used to auto bounce at >80 degrees, now they auto bounce at >85 degrees - ie heat now more effective vs sloped armor.
Note - i'm not expert on this sort of stuff - there are a number of others on the forums who will have a much better understanding of the implications - but on the whole i suspect the change in autobounce angle will make for a fair buff and may shift the meta balance of a number of tanks.

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View PostContentWG, on 14 October 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

Read about the list of changes that will occur in our transition to Update 8.9.

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Now maybe heat will work on reverse angled e100's etc..

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View PostFruity_Ninja, on 14 October 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

Now maybe heat will work on reverse angled e100's etc..
Not sure... E100s rely on spaced skirts and angled turret. The turret sides generally wouldn't be auto bounce territory (>80 degrees) unless the turret front pretty much front on.

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News only... 2... 3 days late?

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View PostEzz, on 14 October 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

First one is that heat shells don't 3x overmatch - my guess is because a heat shells penetration is based on the tip striking at a suitable angle - then doing it's heat thing - hence the caliber of the shell would not necessarily give any overmatch advantage.
Second one i read that the other way around - they used to auto bounce at >80 degrees, now they auto bounce at >85 degrees - ie heat now more effective vs sloped armor.
Note - i'm not expert on this sort of stuff - there are a number of others on the forums who will have a much better understanding of the implications - but on the whole i suspect the change in autobounce angle will make for a fair buff and may shift the meta balance of a number of tanks.

Hmm, I'd like to hear more from someone also, I think that the rounds will now bounce more often.
Take this diagram for instance.
Normal to armor = 90 degrees?
Say that round trajectory is 80 Degrees yes it's heat and will activate and pen.
The way I see it is that red line is the new 85 degrees that will be needed for the round to activate.
Need some sort of confirmation from someone help!
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View PostContentWG, on 14 October 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

Read about the list of changes that will occur in our transition to Update 8.9.

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View PostNK75_Metal, on 14 October 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Hmm, I'd like to hear more from someone also, I think that the rounds will now bounce more often.
Take this diagram for instance.
Normal to armor = 90 degrees?
Say that round trajectory is 80 Degrees yes it's heat and will activate and pen.
The way I see it is that red line is the new 85 degrees that will be needed for the round to activate.
Need some sort of confirmation from someone help!
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And in terms of that diagram they are increasing the angle from normal that the round will auto bounce at. Previously auto bounce at >80 degrees from normal - now auto bounce at >85 degrees from normal. Melcyna is normally all over this stuff...

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View PostEzz, on 14 October 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

And in terms of that diagram they are increasing the angle from normal that the round will auto bounce at. Previously auto bounce at >80 degrees from normal - now auto bounce at >85 degrees from normal. Melcyna is normally all over this stuff...

From normal...ahhh but 85 degrees is..is...is nearly parallel with the object that it's striking? Crazy. No more side scraping...
 

 


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View PostNK75_Metal, on 14 October 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

From normal...ahhh but 85 degrees is..is...is nearly parallel with the object that it's striking? Crazy. No more side scraping...

Well yes...you just gotta get your angle right.

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View PostNK75_Metal, on 14 October 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

From normal...ahhh but 85 degrees is..is...is nearly parallel with the object that it's striking? Crazy. No more side scraping...
Side scraping is most effective vs heat because a number of tanks with spaced armor there and or tracks which act as spaced armor. And spaced armor pretty much defeats most heat rounds - and will probably continue to do so. Tanks with big slabs of non spaced side armor will be slightly more vulnerable.

As posted re the e100, i suspect a 'good' side scraping angle of about 30 degrees probably won't be affected too much by this change at they wouldn't have been near auto bounce angles (10 degrees previous - 5 degrees after 8.9). For mine, possible changes to the meta would include things like shooting an IS7 UFP with E5/T57 HEAT. Currently that's pretty much bounce - but i haven't done the sums as to whether that's auto bounce or just effective armor. If this shift in auto bounce makes that viable then i can foresee the tier 10 meta balance shifting again.

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View PostEzz, on 14 October 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

then i can foresee the tier 10 meta balance shifting again.

What do you think would be the big changes, based upon this?

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View PostFruity_Ninja, on 14 October 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

What do you think would be the big changes, based upon this?
IS7s or heavily sloped tanks could become even less useful. Their frontal armor can be semi useful against pretty much anything but a tier 10 TD. The key is whether they were bouncey because of the auto bounce angle or due to their effective armor. If it was auto bounce, then this shift will affect them. If it was just effective armor then very little will change as the pen of the shells is staying the same.

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