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[FramFramson]

If they're scared of the outflow of players, maybe they should stop destroying their own game.

 

Nah.

[AKASHA178]

FramFramson, on 31 December 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

If they're scared of the outflow of players, maybe they should stop destroying their own game.

 

Nah.

they already stop banning the famous mod which wg software was detecting it (according to one of WG staff on russian server 77% of russian server using it) so ban them only 400k player will remain lol, now go figure whats the percentage on our server including bots 

[FramFramson]

77%... holy shit.

 

I mean, once you get a critical mass of players using it, then I suppose even ones who don't want to feel like they must or they'll be handicapping themselves for no reason.

 

But also... Russia (though the same ideas of the rules being meaningless apply to our server too, I'm sure).

 

Anyway, who knows what WG will do, but is leaving the problem alone really sustainable? 

[AKASHA178]

FramFramson, on 01 January 2020 - 02:29 AM, said:

77%... holy shit.

 

I mean, once you get a critical mass of players using it, then I suppose even ones who don't want to feel like they must or they'll be handicapping themselves for no reason.

 

But also... Russia (though the same ideas of the rules being meaningless apply to our server too, I'm sure).

 

Anyway, who knows what WG will do, but is leaving the problem alone really sustainable? 

Russia server make rules other servers follow them, other servers could only manage or change some minor parts (i have the statistics for Asia server but i scare to post them, could cause unrest and ban myself )

Tips :somehow Russian percentage is better than our server if we including the bots on asia (bot program which player paid them with real cash)

[FramFramson]

AKASHA178, on 01 January 2020 - 06:37 AM, said:

Russia server make rules other servers follow them, other servers could only manage or change some minor parts (i have the statistics for Asia server but i scare to post them, could cause unrest and ban myself )

Tips :somehow Russian percentage is better than our server if we including the bots on asia (bot program which player paid them with real cash)

 

Honestly, I don't think it would surprise any of us to find out that the rate of cheats on this server is over 90% or whatever.

[Conan]

Please do not use unsupported statistics. Please include your sources for "A WG employee said this and that." 

 

Sure, we have not have a ban wave in a while but that does not mean we're not banning people one at a time whenever they are caught. We are not going to go on a witch hunt and start a ban wave just because. 
Sure, "Russia" may make "the rules," however, each Region has the ability to create and implement their own rules which are suitable for their own region. 

What's true in CIS is not necessarily true in APAC. Players, of all people, all well aware of this.

 

Thank you. Happy New Year.

[Holeinthehead]

Conan, on 02 January 2020 - 03:24 AM, said:

Please do not use unsupported statistics. Please include your sources for "A WG employee said this and that." 

 

Sure, we have not have a ban wave in a while but that does not mean we're not banning people one at a time whenever they are caught. We are not going to go on a witch hunt and start a ban wave just because. 
Sure, "Russia" may make "the rules," however, each Region has the ability to create and implement their own rules which are suitable for their own region. 

What's true in CIS is not necessarily true in APAC. Players, of all people, all well aware of this.

 

Thank you. Happy New Year.

 

 

The old denial road . Tried over and over and over again . It has never worked in the past . So why bother ?

 

 

[Vindictus_Maximus]

I have a great idea for Wargaming. We need Rocket Launcher SPG, and below are two possible tier8 premium versions I suggest

 

 

T-60-B-M-8-24_Katiucha

 

SdKfz-4-1_Panzerwerfer

 

The main feature of these SPGs will be area of effect strike. These strikes will deal relatively low damage, but will induce high probability of module damage and crew injuries, as well as long 30 second stun times that cannot be reduced by medkits

 

The special mechanic attached to these SPGs will be Flight Recon perk similar to the perk found in the Frontline mode. They will be able to spot a targeted area of the map once per minute, the spotted tanks will be visible for 10 seconds.

 

XP and credits will be earned based mainly on damage caused while enemy vehicles are stunned, and spotting damage using air recon perk, as well as actual damage caused.

 

The reload will be 50 seconds, and the vehicles will be fast moving with excellent camo, poor armour, and will also have mounted on a small rotating turret the 3cm M.K 103 machine gun as found on the Luchs (110mm pen APCR as standard rounds) with the same autolcok feature found on wheeled vehicles, to quickly delete any threatening Lt

 

These tanks will be excellent for degrading enemy tanks fighting abilities, and two such SPGs working together will have the capacity to keep groups of tanks permanent stunned the entire game, as well as killing their crew every 50 seconds

 

USD $45 with 100% crew and vehicle slot. Would be a big seller and real hit for Arty fans. Please send idea through to Minsk.

 

 

Edited by Vindictus_Maximus, 02 January 2020 - 12:38 PM.

[K4BeeTee]

Holeinthehead, on 02 January 2020 - 11:49 AM, said:

 

 

The old denial road . Tried over and over and over again . It has never worked in the past . So why bother ?

 

 

No facts has been stated. Therefore there cannot be denial. Its up to Akasha to deliver the so called facts before it can be denied or refuted.

[Holeinthehead]

K4BeeTee, on 02 January 2020 - 04:56 AM, said:

No facts has been stated. Therefore there cannot be denial. Its up to Akasha to deliver the so called facts before it can be denied or refuted.

 

rofl

Russians and mods . Go read up .

It's not up to Akasha .

WG history . Go learn it .

 

The real point or issue here would be the other current issues going on with the game atm . Yet our very absent Admin suddenly appears to post on this . Speaks volumes to me .

 

[NameWasStolenStresslevel]

Am i the only one excited that WG officials just stated here that they take full responsability for the problems regarding banning (bots, hackers i presume) instead of saying that actions taken here depends on russian server?? its a good step by WG to assure us of this. Thx

[Singlemac]

Conan, on 02 January 2020 - 03:24 AM, said:

Please do not use unsupported statistics. Please include your sources for "A WG employee said this and that." 

 

Sure, we have not have a ban wave in a while but that does not mean we're not banning people one at a time whenever they are caught. We are not going to go on a witch hunt and start a ban wave just because. 
Sure, "Russia" may make "the rules," however, each Region has the ability to create and implement their own rules which are suitable for their own region. 

What's true in CIS is not necessarily true in APAC. Players, of all people, all well aware of this.

 

Thank you. Happy New Year.

Hey look everybody, a WG employee has left discord to talk to us plebs on the official forums. Conan, maybe it IS time to go on a witch hunt "just because". Anyone who plays the game regularly knows something stinks with the game. Are we just supposed to take your word for it? If an account has been banned then give us the name of the account and the country it is from. Be seen to be proactive rather than reactive.

 The lower tiers are half bots, and no, not the WG bots. How hard is it to use your own app WOT Assistant to track the botters. If an account is 3 days old and has 1000 battles kick them. Played a T10 battle last night with a teammate with 5000 odd games, account not even a month old and a win rate of 40%. If you can't see that this screams of bottling then it maybe time to move on or actually get some passion  and play the game we love. Unfortunately WG is allowing it to go down the gurgler.

Anyway back to discord with you. I'm told someone just posted about an eggplant and it is a very informative post.

[Stewy_]

Vindictus_Maximus, on 02 January 2020 - 12:34 PM, said:

I have a great idea for Wargaming. We need Rocket Launcher SPG, and below are two possible tier8 premium versions I suggest

 

 

T-60-B-M-8-24_Katiucha

 

SdKfz-4-1_Panzerwerfer

 

The main feature of these SPGs will be area of effect strike. These strikes will deal relatively low damage, but will induce high probability of module damage and crew injuries, as well as long 30 second stun times that cannot be reduced by medkits

 

The special mechanic attached to these SPGs will be Flight Recon perk similar to the perk found in the Frontline mode. They will be able to spot a targeted area of the map once per minute, the spotted tanks will be visible for 10 seconds.

 

XP and credits will be earned based mainly on damage caused while enemy vehicles are stunned, and spotting damage using air recon perk, as well as actual damage caused.

 

The reload will be 50 seconds, and the vehicles will be fast moving with excellent camo, poor armour, and will also have mounted on a small rotating turret the 3cm M.K 103 machine gun as found on the Luchs (110mm pen APCR as standard rounds) with the same autolcok feature found on wheeled vehicles, to quickly delete any threatening Lt

 

These tanks will be excellent for degrading enemy tanks fighting abilities, and two such SPGs working together will have the capacity to keep groups of tanks permanent stunned the entire game, as well as killing their crew every 50 seconds

 

USD $45 with 100% crew and vehicle slot. Would be a big seller and real hit for Arty fans. Please send idea through to Minsk.

 

 

Man, wheres the down vote button in these situations...

[IMC_Jezza]

Vindictus_Maximus, on 02 January 2020 - 01:34 PM, said:

I have a great idea for Wargaming. We need Rocket Launcher SPG, and below are two possible tier8 premium versions I suggest

 

 

The main feature of these SPGs will be area of effect strike. These strikes will deal relatively low damage, but will induce high probability of module damage and crew injuries, as well as long 30 second stun times that cannot be reduced by medkits

 

The special mechanic attached to these SPGs will be Flight Recon perk similar to the perk found in the Frontline mode. They will be able to spot a targeted area of the map once per minute, the spotted tanks will be visible for 10 seconds.

 

XP and credits will be earned based mainly on damage caused while enemy vehicles are stunned, and spotting damage using air recon perk, as well as actual damage caused.

 

The reload will be 50 seconds, and the vehicles will be fast moving with excellent camo, poor armour, and will also have mounted on a small rotating turret the 3cm M.K 103 machine gun as found on the Luchs (110mm pen APCR as standard rounds) with the same autolcok feature found on wheeled vehicles, to quickly delete any threatening Lt

 

These tanks will be excellent for degrading enemy tanks fighting abilities, and two such SPGs working together will have the capacity to keep groups of tanks permanent stunned the entire game, as well as killing their crew every 50 seconds

 

USD $45 with 100% crew and vehicle slot. Would be a big seller and real hit for Arty fans. Please send idea through to Minsk.

 

 

 

 

Pls tell me you are actually trolling?

 

Please, Please Please.......

 

Edited by IMC_Jezza, 02 January 2020 - 03:38 PM.

[IMC_Jezza]

Singlemac, on 02 January 2020 - 04:23 PM, said:

Hey look everybody, a WG employee has left discord to talk to us plebs on the official forums. Conan, maybe it IS time to go on a witch hunt "just because". Anyone who plays the game regularly knows something stinks with the game. Are we just supposed to take your word for it? If an account has been banned then give us the name of the account and the country it is from. Be seen to be proactive rather than reactive.

 The lower tiers are half bots, and no, not the WG bots. How hard is it to use your own app WOT Assistant to track the botters. If an account is 3 days old and has 1000 battles kick them. Played a T10 battle last night with a teammate with 5000 odd games, account not even a month old and a win rate of 40%. If you can't see that this screams of bottling then it maybe time to move on or actually get some passion  and play the game we love. Unfortunately WG is allowing it to go down the gurgler.

Anyway back to discord with you. I'm told someone just posted about an eggplant and it is a very informative post.

 

 

Seeing as you have obviously been active on all things discord....

 

You have (no doubt) read the posts regarding the fact that - as quickly as they individually ban the non WG bots, more are made?

 

It is well documented that the work is going into banning the origin, not the outcome..... If you happen to able to help the guys working towards that outcome, the well bloody done!

 

If on the other hand you think they don't give a crap, or are unaware, and not working towards a solution?  then by all means, #getonboard the hate train ........

[Singlemac]

IMC_Jezza, on 02 January 2020 - 08:07 AM, said:

 

 

Seeing as you have obviously been active on all things discord....

 

You have (no doubt) read the posts regarding the fact that - as quickly as they individually ban the non WG bots, more are made?

 

It is well documented that the work is going into banning the origin, not the outcome..... If you happen to able to help the guys working towards that outcome, the well bloody done!

 

If on the other hand you think they don't give a crap, or are unaware, and not working towards a solution?  then by all means, #getonboard the hate train ........

Mate, my gripe is that if they have posted all this on discord then how about they get off their arses and post it here as well. They have abandoned these forums, you have more chance of getting a question answered boy an WG employee on the Aus/NZ World of  Tanks Facebook site then you have here. I am aware of what Jay has planned/ is trying to do with regards the banning of the bots. I read his post/ comments on the Facebook site. WG have the resources to monitor the bots by using the WOT Assistant app. It gives you a ranking of most games played during the last 24hrs, week and month. If a brand new account has 500 games played on the first day then it should be instaban. Wouldn't have thought it was all that hard, if an account is playing a game every 4 to 5 minutes hour after hour, day after day, week after week, then it should raise a dirty big red flag. Problem is that most bot accounts use premium time and premium tanks but so they lose out on money.

[Vindictus_Maximus]

IMC_Jezza, on 02 January 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

Pls tell me you are actually trolling?

 

Please, Please Please.......

 

No, I am describing my dream tank.

 

Too often I have been focusig a single Heavy only for him to move back into hiding where I can't get him. With the wide blast area and the flight recon mechanic, that Heavy could no longer hide from me and I could continue to focus him. Lazy TDs hiding at the back would also get my attention

 

Also, and i forgot this feature. When you use Flight Recon, the enemy tank sixth sense does not go off, so the first time they find out they have been spotted is when my rockets start raining down on them.

 

Imaging the epic Twitch clips of watching a Heavy Tank be permanently stunned for the entire game. And the giggles in the post match stats when you can check out how many of their crew members you killed, how many modules you destroyed.

 

There might be a few doubters like you, but I reckon the community at large would support a new, exciting premium SPG tank like this being sold.

 

 

[Ezz]

The game absolutely needs tier 8 prem arty. Think of how many moon bases they'd be able to build!

[IMC_Jezza]

Vindictus_Maximus, on 02 January 2020 - 10:20 PM, said:

 

No, I am describing my dream tank.

Too often I have been focusig a single Heavy only for him to move back into hiding where I can't get him. With the wide blast area and the flight recon mechanic, that Heavy could no longer hide from me and I could continue to focus him. Lazy TDs hiding at the back would also get my attention

Also, and i forgot this feature. When you use Flight Recon, the enemy tank sixth sense does not go off, so the first time they find out they have been spotted is when my rockets start raining down on them.

Imaging the epic Twitch clips of watching a Heavy Tank be permanently stunned for the entire game. And the giggles in the post match stats when you can check out how many of their crew members you killed, how many modules you destroyed.

There might be a few doubters like you, but I reckon the community at large would support a new, exciting premium SPG tank like this being sold.

 

 

 

 

Well played Mate!!  Plus one Vindi!  

[IMC_Jezza]

Singlemac, on 02 January 2020 - 06:07 PM, said:

 If a brand new account has 500 games played on the first day then it should be instaban. Wouldn't have thought it was all that hard, if an account is playing a game every 4 to 5 minutes hour after hour, day after day, week after week, then it should raise a dirty big red flag. Problem is that most bot accounts use premium time and premium tanks but so they lose out on money.

 

 

Agree 100% - but again, banning the single accounts is a simple band-aid - not the fix.........

 

The rewards with the "refer a friend" that result in the accounts being worthwhile and bottable, using premium accounts etc......  which these accounts feast upon is has to be the focus.....

 

Finding "Genesis" of the source is the only way to stop it......