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Japan is the star of Update 8.10! In part 5 of Superpower Japan, we talk about how trends of military-themed anime and manga evolved throughout the years.

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benlisquare #2 Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:05 PM

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Lots of people around the world probably fell in love with Japan after picking up a habit of watching anime and reading manga. Both media platforms have the potential to appeal to all generations as picture-based stories are easier to understand. It also helps that the colorful nature of anime gives viewers something beautiful to enjoy and talk about with friends and family.

 

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talk about with friends and family

 

In what country or culture is this acceptable in? Every time my mother hears about my hobby, she talks about how the Japanese murdered thousands of our countrymen in Nanking in 1937, and why I should stop watching their cartoons. Every time mates at university bring up the topic of anime, it automatically turns into a discussion on why being attracted to tentacles and cartoons is deviant, and that I should watch some Australian television shows instead.

 

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Retia #3 Posted 23 December 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Heh, I remember watching one of the Gundam series for the first time as a child, sadly the number of channels broadcasting anime in Germany

was next to non-existant back then and I could only watch a few episodes every week. (It was broadcasted shortly after school was over)

It was still quite the experience to watch something that isn't all happy go lucky.

 

I blame anime and all the sci-fi I've been watching in my childhood for me prefering story over graphical fireworks.

(Seriously, I've watched Babylon 5 when it was first aired in 1995... I was 6 years old, talk about a series being story heavy)

 

Anyway I have no real favourite, but here's a list of ones I enjoyed:

Zipang, Pumpkin Scissors, Sora no Woto, Valkyria Chronicles (The game is better than the anime), Strike Witches, Gundam Seed... *list continues endlessly*

 

Spoiler

 

On a final note:

War-themed isn't all, some of the best animes out there are the very basic ones ;)

 

(Probably my childhood favourite)


 

 

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Trigun.

 

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View Postbenlisquare, on 23 December 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

In what country or culture is this acceptable in?

 

Let me introduce you to a place called Germany.

 

Heck, 9/10 Bundeswehr soldiers watch anime regularly, and the remaining 1/10 do it every now and then.

My 47 years old Kompaniefeldwebel reads light novels of animes.

He got curious when I read the Spice&Wolf novel after I was done shooting and cleaning my rifle and had nothing else to do.

He: "Reading comics again?"

Me: "Not really, there exists a manga/anime, but this is the text version, a regular book so to speak."

He: "Well, what's it about?"

Me: "Basically trading and the life of a merchant in the late medieval/renaissance era with a fair bit of magical/mythical influences."

He: "Mind if I borrowed it for a read when you're done?"

 

Then again Germany probably being one of the most cultural diverse countries makes it easier to accept that different people have different hobbies,

thoughts, likes/dislikes, etc.

In the appartment house I live in we have germans, polish, ukrainians, afghans, italians, canadians, russians, and me being half german/indonesian.

In the room in the barracks when I was still a soldier we were a french, a brit, a german, a russian and me.

 

Go figure :P


 

 

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View PostRetia, on 23 December 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

 

Let me introduce you to a place called Germany.

 

Heck, 9/10 Bundeswehr soldiers watch anime regularly, and the remaining 1/10 do it every now and then.

My 47 years old Kompaniefeldwebel reads light novels of animes.

He got curious when I read the Spice&Wolf novel after I was done shooting and cleaning my rifle and had nothing else to do.

He: "Reading comics again?"

Me: "Not really, there exists a manga/anime, but this is the text version, a regular book so to speak."

He: "Well, what's it about?"

Me: "Basically trading and the life of a merchant in the late medieval/renaissance era with a fair bit of magical/mythical influences."

He: "Mind if I borrowed it for a read when you're done?"

 

Then again Germany probably being one of the most cultural diverse countries makes it easier to accept that different people have different hobbies,

thoughts, likes/dislikes, etc.

In the appartment house I live in we have germans, polish, ukrainians, afghans, italians, canadians, russians, and me being half german/indonesian.

In the room in the barracks when I was still a soldier we were a french, a brit, a german, a russian and me.

 

Go figure :P

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the japs fault lie on the "god king" the jap emperor



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Currently:

Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio (Arpeggio of Blue Steel) an anime where heavy cruises, battleships and submarines roles. Like heavy cruiser Takao, battleship Haruna, battleship Kirishima, heavy cruiser Maya, battleship Kongou, submarine I-400, submarine I-401 and submarine I-402, they are exist during World War 2.


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Let see,i'm don't like manga/anime too much.But i like anime/manga related to Real History/War History.


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View PostRetia, on 23 December 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

 

Let me introduce you to a place called Germany.

 

Heck, 9/10 Bundeswehr soldiers watch anime regularly, and the remaining 1/10 do it every now and then.

My 47 years old Kompaniefeldwebel reads light novels of animes.

He got curious when I read the Spice&Wolf novel after I was done shooting and cleaning my rifle and had nothing else to do.

He: "Reading comics again?"

Me: "Not really, there exists a manga/anime, but this is the text version, a regular book so to speak."

He: "Well, what's it about?"

Me: "Basically trading and the life of a merchant in the late medieval/renaissance era with a fair bit of magical/mythical influences."

He: "Mind if I borrowed it for a read when you're done?"

 

Then again Germany probably being one of the most cultural diverse countries makes it easier to accept that different people have different hobbies,

thoughts, likes/dislikes, etc.

In the appartment house I live in we have germans, polish, ukrainians, afghans, italians, canadians, russians, and me being half german/indonesian.

In the room in the barracks when I was still a soldier we were a french, a brit, a german, a russian and me.

 

Go figure :P

 

Seems like Germany is quite the culturally enriched nation. Though Australia is quite multicultural as well, anime as a hobby is somewhat of a taboo, because of various connotations and misunderstandings. Whilst many Australians probably grew up watching Pokemon and Dragonball Z as a child, they still seem to think of anime as a creepy neckbeard thing. In fact, most of the weeaboos I've noticed in this country all happen to be Chinese Australians for some reason.


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View Postbenlisquare, on 23 December 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

 

Seems like Germany is quite the culturally enriched nation. Though Australia is quite multicultural as well, anime as a hobby is somewhat of a taboo, because of various connotations and misunderstandings. Whilst many Australians probably grew up watching Pokemon and Dragonball Z as a child, they still seem to think of anime as a creepy neckbeard thing. In fact, most of the weeaboos I've noticed in this country all happen to be Chinese Australians for some reason.

i take offence to that.



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View Postjimmy1a1a1, on 23 December 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

i take offence to that.

 

To what? That Australians view anime in a negative light? Or my caricature of how Australians view anime?


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Special mention to Daiteikoku, for obvious reasons. *points at avatar*

 

uh Alicesoft is out of question. i like Rance though.

 



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View Postbenlisquare, on 23 December 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

 

 

In what country or culture is this acceptable in? Every time my mother hears about my hobby, she talks about how the Japanese murdered thousands of our countrymen in Nanking in 1937, and why I should stop watching their cartoons. Every time mates at university bring up the topic of anime, it automatically turns into a discussion on why being attracted to tentacles and cartoons is deviant, and that I should watch some Australian television shows instead.

 

The only logical solution is to hide one's powerlevel at all times, regardless of the situation.

 

Being a Singaporean Chinese, I can kind of understand her mentality; my Chinese teacher often launches into rants about Unit 731, and all the atrocities. However, I am of the opinion that this is history; the sins of the father don't pass on to the son. 

 

Also, very common misconception that all anime is pornographic. My mother thought that until I decked out my room in completely non-pornographic merch and was like "This is so damn mainstream". 

 

With regards to the societal acceptance of our shared hobby, I think that you shouldn't give a flying fox what anyone thinks and just whatever. Like some wise person whose name I can't remember once said, those who care about that aren't worth caring about. 



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The first military-themed anime I fell in love with was Utawarerumono. Even though it followed a stereotypical plot development (the main character starts off small in a village, takes command of his country, and eventually fights neighboring nations), I didn't mind back then because it was hard to find non-PH TV anime at all. This was back during the early 2000's when internet in the PH was very rare. :3

 

Since then every time I could get my hands on a war-themed anime or visual novel, I gladly take the bait.

 

Of course, there were some very interesting war games out there, and fire emblem as well as gadget trial were the more interesting ones. And even there, artillery is relatively harder to use. lol

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View Postbenlisquare, on 23 December 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Seems like Germany is quite the culturally enriched nation. Though Australia is quite multicultural as well, anime as a hobby is somewhat of a taboo

 

Well culturally enriched... I can't really comment on that, diverse yes and I like it.

Anime used to be a "hah, child stuff" thing several years ago, but since I was a child back then I didn't care :P

Same as videogames, I grew up in a time when videogames slowly grew from "what nerds play" to "what everyone plays".

 

Before that it was tv... radio... rock... jazz... and whatever else.

Whenever something new comes out there are people that oppose it, and slowly everyone grows accustomed to it and accepts it.

 

View PostSol_Ciel, on 23 December 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

The first military-themed anime I fell in love with was Utarerumono.

 

Utawarerumono :harp:


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View PostRetia, on 23 December 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

Utawarerumono :harp:

Verdammt :teethhappy:

 

Still, it was a good one for a couple of memorable scenes:
1. One character asked for a sword that will not bend, will not break, and will never need resharpening. She was given a large, wedge-shaped, blunt sword as a result. It didn't matter because the gal had the strength of over twenty men.

2. A male character woke up sandwiched between his two closest retainers (whose biological genders were once a topic of heated debate), complete with a drunken session the previous night and wardrobe malfunctions.

 

 


     

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Part of the problem with countries around Asia that still has their older generation holding contempt against Japanese despite more than half a century passing is that unlike the German for example, the Japanese never really go over that sensitive issue of what happened in Asia as their Imperial Army rampaged across it and... well... generally being quite unpleasant, second probably only to the you know what in Europe of the recent times... They tend to gloss over it and avoid the topic AT ALL COST.

 

Then you get hardnut cases like certain ultra nationalist member in Japan making wild and controversial statements like "NANKING DIDN'T HAPPEN", or "Those asian women that served as the 'relief squad' in the occupied asian nations were willing etc...", and one of the most controversial of course was the statement put in their Imperial War Museum...

 

there's a part there that indicates the Imperial army 'exploit' during WW2 and prior in China, there's one part in there about Nanking, take a guess what it says...

 

For the most part, they just do it for political stunt... ie: to gain attention towards them from their own public, they know the others outside Japan that sees them with contempt can't do anything about it anyway, and they can use the publicity it generates inside Japan for the only thing that matters to them... ie: making them popular one way or another, even negative view in the public is better than no publicity for some of them.

 

Their public are NOT that stupid, but similar to sensationalist tabloid... it generates buzz whenever they use this double edged weapon... and every time they do it... it rattles and annoy the hell out of the neighboring countries older generations.

 

View Postbenlisquare, on 23 December 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

 

To what? That Australians view anime in a negative light? Or my caricature of how Australians view anime?


Your mileage may vary, but in Melbourne for example... they sure as hell have no problem with it, choke full of them in fact whenever Manifest comes about, in Adelaide? same thing, they got their own anime/manga con, same with Perth... and there are participants of every race i can think of.

 

whenever these anime/manga con are active and about you will know... why? because the trams particularly the ones heading to universities will be choke full of cosplay participant for the contest held in all of them...

 

note: someone here may or may not have been regular to all 3... each year, but it's MOST CERTAINLY not me...

no really.... and no i did not cosplay... 


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View PostMelcyna, on 23 December 2013 - 11:01 PM, said:

Your mileage may vary, but in Melbourne for example... they sure as hell have no problem with it

 

Well I guess it might be a bit more different over there, after all Melbourne is a rather non-conservative city. If you've ever been to far northern Queensland, you'd find that the people there don't take "those childish and sexual Chinese cartoons" too kindly. I've been living over there for the past few years due to university, but I do come back twice a year down south, where I actually call home.


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Well, that might be understandable to an extent then...
 

Back during the crazy times of WW2 after all.. ppl in Australia were actually fearing some sort of an invasion at the north, it of course were not going to happen... nor will it ever (Japan never had the resources for it, nor did they consider it feasible in the first place) but it didn't stop ppl from being paranoid over it... they fought tooth and nails in Papua partly because of it after all... and the experience fighting the IJA in Papua certainly did not help the impression that the older generation have towards the Japanese as it was a rather.... gruesome fight, almost primal.

 

Here in the southern area... well... i don't think anyone really cares much about that, as long as you are being sensible of course... and for the better or worse, the materials used in anime/manga generally avoids the kind of subjects that can be an irritant to the older generation usually anyway..i say USUALLY of course because some don't exactly follow that... web comics or light novels for example, well... some of them are straying a little bit too close for comfort, for example things involving JSDF and their portrayal which makes it obvious that they really don't want to touch that issue about what their Imperial Army did or were like before.






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