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Scharfschuetzen #1 Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:46 PM

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Event Start Time: 21. Mar 2014 14:00 (UTC+8) 
Event End Time: 28. Mar 2014 14:00 (UTC+8) 

 

Hi Commanders,

Do you know the greatest charm of her(the tanks)? How did you be fascinate by her?

That's tell us what you saw? how you feel? And what's the story between you and her?

This time we'd like to know the story between you and the tank "Matilda Black Prince"!

 

Conditions:

  • The theme is the premium tank "Matilda Black Prince".
  • Post your screenshot with your "Matilda Black Prince" and your review of her on this thread.

 

Prize:

  • The best 3 participants will received 1000 Gold each per.

 

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remo_oreo #2 Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:25 PM

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Pros and Cons

Pros:
  • Armor is better than it appears thanks to heavy angles and a large internal gun mantle
  • High rate of fire
  • Relatively low profile
  • Above average HP
  • Good gun depression
  • Does not encounter tier 7 battles, unlike regular tier 5 tanks
  • Side skirts have thin spaced armor

 

Cons:
  • Agonizingly slow, with poor power to weight ratio. Crawls uphill
  • Low damage and penetration
  • Small ammo capacity
  • Mediocre accuracy
  • Poor aiming time, gun reloads faster than it can aim
  • Largely inferior to the T-25 and Type 3 Chi-Nu Kai, yet costs more gold
  • Inferior to a regular Matilda in many aspects

    Performance

    Compared to a fully upgraded Matilda armed with the QF 2-pdr Mk. X-B gun, the Matilda Black Prince (commonly abbreviated as MBP) has better gun depression, damage, hit points, signal range, view range and credit income. However, it is a tier higher, has poorer hull traverse, turret armor, ammo capacity, penetration, accuracy, aim time, rate of fire and speed (despite the lighter turret).

    Take it slow, pick your targets, and watch your ammo. With around 30 shots a minute and only 55 spare, you'll run dry quick if you don't make your shells count. It is better to wait until you are fully aimed before firing, so try to avoid the Churchill tactic of slinging shells at your target knowing you'll hit eventually.

    As strange as it might sound, the real WWII Matilda II version named Black Prince was in fact a unarmed and remote-controlled version meant to draw fire and trick enemy AT guns into revealing their positions.


Edited by remo_oreo, 21 March 2014 - 05:27 PM.


CrypticLime #3 Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:31 PM

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View Postremo_oreo, on 21 March 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

UK-GB68 Matilda Black Prince.png

Pros and Cons

Pros:
  • Armor is better than it appears thanks to heavy angles and a large internal gun mantle
  • High rate of fire
  • Relatively low profile
  • Above average HP
  • Good gun depression
  • Does not encounter tier 7 battles, unlike regular tier 5 tanks
  • Side skirts have thin spaced armor

 

Cons:
  • Agonizingly slow, with poor power to weight ratio. Crawls uphill
  • Low damage and penetration
  • Small ammo capacity
  • Mediocre accuracy
  • Poor aiming time, gun reloads faster than it can aim
  • Largely inferior to the T-25 and Type 3 Chi-Nu Kai, yet costs more gold
  • Inferior to a regular Matilda in many aspects

    Performance

    Compared to a fully upgraded Matilda armed with the QF 2-pdr Mk. X-B gun, the Matilda Black Prince (commonly abbreviated as MBP) has better gun depression, damage, hit points, signal range, view range and credit income. However, it is a tier higher, has poorer hull traverse, turret armor, ammo capacity, penetration, accuracy, aim time, rate of fire and speed (despite the lighter turret).

    Take it slow, pick your targets, and watch your ammo. With around 30 shots a minute and only 55 spare, you'll run dry quick if you don't make your shells count. It is better to wait until you are fully aimed before firing, so try to avoid the Churchill tactic of slinging shells at your target knowing you'll hit eventually.

    As strange as it might sound, the real WWII Matilda II version named Black Prince was in fact a unarmed and remote-controlled version meant to draw fire and trick enemy AT guns into revealing their positions.

wow just wow..

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HE_Only_For_the_Weak #4 Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:33 PM

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Pros and cons
Advantages:
Armor is better than it appears due to the severe angle and an internal coat big guns
High rate of fire
Records relatively low
On average HP
Good gun depression
Not having the 7th floor game , unlike regular class 5 tanks
Thin side armor skirts spaced
Cons:
Agonizingly slow , with poor strength to weight ratio . Uphill
Low damage and penetration
Small ammo capacity
Exactly trivial
Time to poverty , gun reload faster than it can be for the purpose of
Most are less than the T - 25 and Type 3 Chi- Nu Kai , but more gold
Less than a regular Matilda in many aspects
performance
Compared with a fully upgraded QF 2 - equipped Matilda Mk Laos . XB guns , the Matilda Black Prince ( often abbreviated as MBP ) has better gun depression , loss , highlights , signal range , scope and see income credit . However, it is a higher level , have poor passing hull , turret armor , ammo ability , penetration , accuracy , aim time , rate of fire and speed ( although slightly turret more ) .
Take it slow , pick your target , and watch your ammo . With about 30 shots a minute , and only 55 spare , you will quickly run dry if you do not make your shell count . It is better to wait until you are completely aim before firing , so try to avoid the Churchill tactic of throwing shells at your target know you will hit eventually .
As strange as it may sound , version II World War II real name is Matilda Black Prince is in fact a version of unarmed and remote controls are meant to trick the enemy fire and AT guns disclose their location .
Equipment proposed
Improved ventilation Enhance Indoor Gun Rammer Gun Place Drive


 

 


Edited by usimi, 21 March 2014 - 05:37 PM.


Choco_Chips #5 Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

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Pros:
  • Armor is good for T5 medium tank
  • High rate of fire, only 2,23 sec to reload
  • U can call it "rare tank" for one reason
  • HP 610, more than Pz IV (460), PZ III/IV (440), M4 (460) and KV-1 !!!!!! (I mean stock KV-1 = 590 HP)
  • Good Gun depression
  • Only fighting versus T3-T6 not T7 or above
  • Side armor not bad

 

Cons:
  • Sooooo slow for MT
  • Dont try to climbing, dont do it for one reason (point 1)
  • Low damage, only 80-100 -_-
  • Reload 2,23 sec, but u only have 55 ammo. so slightly for one reason
  • Accuracy like a USSR TD's (bad)
  • reload 2,23 sec, but u need 2,3 sec to aim?, are u kidding?
  • 1750 gold to get this tank, u can save 250 G if u buy T14 or Churcill III

 

If you like the Churchill you will enjoy the Matilda BP. It's basically a small Churchill with a tad less armor. and the important one from premium tank, u can save 5000-15000 credit income if u playing well or bad (very bad not include), and no more minus.

 

Suggest equip: spall liner (because you'll meet M4 or Pz IV and other tank with derp gun), Gun lying drive (because reload time more fast than aiming time) and toolbox (don't let LT shoot your tracks and around you when ur repair kit is already in use)

 

 

*Sorry for my bad english :D

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AVAkiller #6 Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:32 PM

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"Matilda Black Prince" is one of the best tank design,  the average damage 75 ,and rate of fire is around 26.09, damage per minutes, 1957 and the Avg. Penetration- 110mm, It’s top speed is 22 km/h and averages 17 km/h which is very sluggish at times since most of the tanks you are facing are much more agile. While DPM isn’t the tell all stat when dealing with how good a tank is it is nice to see the Matilda BP doesn’t lack firepower. and it is outstanding gun depression. at -12.5 degrees it is 0.5 degrees better than a comet. so prepare your gold for this tank :)



impressx900 #7 Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:32 PM

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MATILDA BLACK PRINCE

 

Matilda Black Prince( also known as MBP) is one of the most Efficient tank busters in tier 5 game with its QF 6-pdr Mk. V A  this gun boasts good penetration and DPM its one of the most pounderous gun in the game. but this gun is balanced with poor HP damage and low    

ammo quantity. with only 55 rounds you have to make each of shots count. this tank is not suited for close range combats and 1st line battlers on game,this tank is well suited on support role like all British medium tanks you must rely not only to yourself but to your team as well to perform its abilities well.

 

STATS:

Hit Points  
610 HP  
Weight Limit  
30/32 t  
 
Mobility
Engine Power  
190 hp  
Speed Limit  
22 km/h  
Traverse  
35 deg/s  
Power/Wt Ratio  
6.33 hp/t  
Armor
Hull Armor  
75/70/55 mm  
Turret Armor  
76/63/57 mm  
Armament
   
Damage  
75/75/100 Hp  
Penetration  
110/180/30 mm  
Rate of Fire  
26.09 r/m

100%crew  27.2 RPM

+VENTS27.82

+BIA 28.43

+FOOD 29.66

 
Accuracy

 

0.41m

100% crew 0.39m

+VENTS 0.38m

+BIA 0.37m

+FOOD 0.36m

 

Aim time  

2.3s

+100& crew 2.21s

+VENTS 2.16s

+BIA 2.11s

+FOOD  2.02

 
Turret Traverse  

35 deg/sec

 

 
Ammo Capacity  
55 rounds  
View Range
350
 m
Signal Range
570
 m

 

BATTLE STRENGHTS

MBP's penetration is very good for its tier, try to use this as an advantage. Find a position where you can support your allies and pound your gun at them with 100% crew you can take chunks of Hp on the enemy easily, but be wary about your ammunition. asses the battle situation 1st and always keep in mind that your ammo is not enough for long term engagements with only 75 hp damage on each round. take opportunity hits,finish strugglers in the battle and make each shells count and the MBP will reward you good.

Patience and awareness in your  surroundings is a MUST to keep your survivabilty long.

 

WEAKNESS:

In battle situations from what i have observed in all of matilda suspension type tanks they take serious damage against HE shells on front more than the side maybe because side armor has spaced armor and most damage is soaked up from what i have experienced.

suggest you keep out from this type of guns especially m4 shermans and pz IV.

also matildas speed is very slow,especially when climbing hill maus can do better, which can be very frustrating sometimes, and reload is faster than it can aim, be sure to aim fully 1st before firing or you will miss some shots as i said you have to be patient and the tank will do the rest. TAKE NOTE: This tanks turret has no MANTLET and is an arty magnet find spots where you will be safe from arty because if they hit your UNMANLET TURRET. 1 shot from tier 5 arty is enough to put you back into your garage.

 

 

SUMMARY

*Map awareness is  a MUST in this tank

*Be cautious and plan where you go and engage

*AVOID tanks carrying derp guns or they will wreck you with ease

* Be conservative in your ammo for long term fights

* Dont rely much on the tanks armor this tank has good armor but your speed will be your death sentence in this tank,the armor cannot compensate for the turtle speed of the tank plus most likely well experience tankers will aim at your UNMANTLET turret than your hull.

premium tank does get preferential match.(up to tier 6 only)

Suggested Equipments 

 

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CONSUMABLES:

 

Small Repair Kit Small First Aid Kit Manual Fire Extinguishers  

 

 


Edited by impressx900, 22 March 2014 - 07:48 AM.


QSF_Dunce_Zanin #8 Posted 22 March 2014 - 06:16 AM

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Ah the Matilda BP is one heck of a machine, the speed limit is only 22 km  so there's not much worry as you will stay in the pack the Hp is only 610 so it will stand ground with tier 6/7. The armor we don't really need to care about as it's sloped quite well and will confuse plays but tier 7 and 6 med/heavy tank will have no ease on penetrating it so be aware of it, the weight limit is only 32T. The performance is quite excellent and can stand tier 6/7 but not for a long time so be careful around them in platoons, the tank is ideal for grind credits and money so good luck on doing that yet I have noting much to say as all I will say, it's well worth your money and time -zaninfrastun


 

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World of Tanks wiki give us great overview info about this tank http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Matilda_Black_Prince

So let's talk about BP's farming ability: rank: 26- good enough for a premium tank

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Nikolaevna #10 Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:53 PM

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If you're a fan of the Matilda tanks, then you can never have too many Matildas.

 

The Matilda Black Prince (commonly abbreviated MBP, or Matilda BP) is basically a Matilda hull fitted with a Cromwell turret. When playing defensively, equipping binoculars is highly recommended to enhance its view range. Keep in mind that the MBP has only 55 rounds, and its 6-pdr gun is only decently accurate. Make every shot count or the MBP will often find itself running out of ammo before the battle even reaches its outcome. When playing aggressively, always take the shortest possible route to the enemy. Avoid climbing hills and traversing rivers or swamps at all costs.

 

Its biggest nemesis is perhaps the AT 2 tank destroyer. Unless attacking from the rear or armed with APCR ammo, the MBP is virtually useless against one. Flanking is not ideal as the MBP is much too slow for that. Its only saving grace is the high rate of fire, which can make short work of lightly armoured tanks like the Crusader and Chi Nu.

 

The MBP may cost more gold than the legendary Churchill III, but it does have its moments. The Matilda BP is best suited for players who prefer a slow, passive style of play. Love it or hate it, the Matilda BP will always hold a rightful place of distinction as the first ever British tank to appear in World of Tanks.


Edited by Nikolaevna, 22 March 2014 - 05:21 PM.


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The Matilda Black Prince

 

"Why don't we give the Matilda a bigger gun, and a spacier turret lads?" was what the fine Englishman that created the prototype said. The Matilda Black Prince, was the fusion between an Infantry Tank Mark II 'Matilda II' and a A27 turret, which was then used for the much more famous Cromwell Medium Tank. Now, why would this little tank need a large turret? It was due to the fact that the Matilda's turret was far too small, cramping the crew, and only allowing the 2-pounder cannon to be fitted. But with the larger A27 turret, a 6-pounder cannon could be installed, and the crew had some more air to breath.

 

Now, in the wonderful game of World of Tanks, you can drive your very own Matilda Black Prince! As there was only one prototype, and it was scrapped, there is no longer a tank like it, but now you can buy it for a mere 1,750 gold! It features very nice hull armor, and a nice 610 Hit Points, allowing you to soak up quite a bit of damage. It has 20m more view range than its brother, the Matilda II, and its Quick-Fire 6-pounder Mark V A can damage 20 more hitpoints than its 2-pounder counterpart on the Matilda II, and it has a much higher DPM, 1956.75 compared to 1571.35!

 

As it has the same armor as the Matilda II, you are very close to invincible to lower tier tanks, and as the highest tier it meets is tier 6, you will not have to worry about tier 7s pushing you around. Your turrets front has 1mm more than the Matilda II's, but make sure to angle it well, as it is flat, and the sides and back are quite thin. Your speed is also quite slow, a mere 24km/hr, but that just means you're letting your team mince the meat first. You are a very good at holding lines, by using your quick firing and quite accurate gun, so sticking to defense is how you can bring your team to victory. 

 

All in all, it is a very note worthy tank, and any player that can see its true nature will bring their team to victory. Don't switch paths in the middle of the game, as its speed won't allow it. Stick with some teammates, and do some spot and hit tactics, also so they can help protect you from flanking. So get your own Matilda Black Prince Today!

 

Trivia! The Matilda Black Prince's turret is actually the Cromwell's turret, the A27, so it should actually be the Matilda Cromwell. :teethhappy:

 

 


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Medium Tank: Matilda Black Prince

Matilda Black Prince

This vehicle features a 6-pounder gun fitted in the A27 turret. Only one prototype was produced, after which development was discontinued due to complications with the turret mounting. The vehicle never entered service.

Characteristics for a vehicle with basic configuration and a crew with 100% qualification.

Main Characteristics

Tier V
 
Hit Points 610 HP
 
Weight/Load Limit 30.04 / 31.95 t
 
Price 1,750
 
Crew
  1. Commander (radio operator)
  2. Gunner
  3. Driver
  4. Loader
 
Mobility
 
Engine Power 190 h.p.
 
Speed Limit 22 km/h
 
Traverse Speed 35 deg/sec
 
Turret Traverse Speed 34 deg/sec
 
Armor
 
Hull Armor (mm)
  • front 75
  • sides 70
  • rear 55
 
Turret Armor (mm)
  • front 76
  • sides 63
  • rear 57
 
Armament
 
Gun QF 6-pdr Mk. V A
 
Ammunition 55 pcs
 
Damage 56-94 HP
 
Armor Penetration 83-138 mm
 
Rate of Fire 26.09 rounds/min
 
View Range 350 m
 
Signal Range 570 m
 

Configuration

Turrets

Turrets

Tier Turret Armor 
(mm)
Traverse Speed 
(deg/sec)
View Range 
(m)
Price 
(credits)
 
V Matilda Black Prince
  • front 76
  • sides 63
  • rear 57
34 350 --
 
Guns

Guns

Tier Gun Damage 
(НР)
Penetration 
(mm)
Rate of Fire 
(rounds/min)
Price 
(credits)
 
V QF 6-pdr Mk. V A 75/75/100 110/180/30 26.09 --
 
Engines

Engines

Tier Engine Power 
(h.p.)
Chance of Fire 
(%)
Price 
(credits)
 
III 2x Leyland E165 190 15 --
 
Suspensions

Suspensions

Tier Suspension Load Limit 
(t)
Traverse Speed 
(deg/sec)
Price 
(credits)
 
V Matilda Black Prince 31.95 35 --
 
Radios

Radios

Tier Radio Signal Range 
(m)
Price 
(credits)
 
IX WS No. 19 Special 570 --
 
 
 


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Matilda Black Prince.

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I won't be explaining lots of technical stuff, as you can see it in wiki or in the game it self. I bought it recently when WG has special discount for it. I find it very similar play with other heavy tank as it travel real slow. It's armor can take lots of hits from fellow medium and bounce most of light tanks ' barrage. The shots are pretty good. Most of the hits will penetrate enemy tanks although the damage are relative low. It is best for city fights teaming up with other mates. As it slow movement characteristic, it is best to avoid open ground. Other benefits as other premium tanks is low maintenance cost, low ammo cost (except the premium rounds), crew skill grinding and good match making (for single random battle). If you play real good (not like what I did) it is easy to earn lots of credit from it. Try it, relax and have fun :smile:

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Matilda Black Prince

 

 

^my Matilda BP with camouflage applied

 

History:

The Matilda Black Prince was designed to be a radio controlled tank with no crew. The idea being that it could fool enemy AT guns into firing at it, thus revealing their locations.

 

In Game Properties:

alpha - 75/75/100

pen. - 110/180/30

rof. - 26.09/min (1 shot every 2.3s)

dpm. - 1957 (2609 with HE).

ammunition - 55

accuracy - 0.41

aim time - 2.3s

gun elevation/depression - 20 up/12.5 down

turret traverse - 34 deg./s

hull traverse - 35 deg./s

mass - 30t (more with equipment)

h.p./t - 6.33

hit points - 610

view range - 350m

signal range - 570m

 

Gun:

The MBP has a very nice dmp, due to its very high rate of fire. Getting the most out of the gun can require that the tank expose itself while whittling an enemy down. Penetration with standard rounds is usually enough for most enemies, however, should extra penetrating power be required, it is available with APCR which has an amazing 70mm extra penetration. HE will rarely see use, with only 30mm of penetration it is essentially worthless against high armor enemies, making it suitable only for very low armor enemies such as hellcats and some scouts.

 

Driving:

One of the most noticeable aspects of the MBP is it's speed (or lack of). with a power to weight ratio of just over 6, and a maximum speed of 22 kph, this tank will not get anywhere fast. The problem with this, is that it makes it difficult to react to changes in the battle field. As a result this tank is forced to either stay reasonably close to base and defend, or to push a flank, while relying on your team to defend the cap. Despite it's low speed, the MBP has fairly good traverse speed for both the turret and hull, making it easy to quickly angle the armor if you find yourself being flanked.

 

Armor:

From experience, the armor will reliably bounce shots from tier 4 tanks, and sometimes tier 5. The rear is 55mm, upper side is 70mm, lower side is 40mm (but has 25mm of spaced armor, and 10mm of tracks, giving 75mm). The frontal armor is shown below.

The 47mm section of the front plate is highly angled to give an effective thickness of well over 100mm. The other areas are between 70 and 80mm thick, but also quite flat. There are no major weak spots in the armor, however the turret is large and flat, making it one of the most vulnerable parts of the tank. Angling can increase the effective armor of the hull, but will mean little if your enemy knows to shoot at your turret. Overall the armor is above average, but it wont keep you alive if you wander into the middle of an open field.

 

Equipment:

I use the gun rammer to increase the dpm, however this makes the tank shoot faster than it aims, which requires the addition of the gun laying drive. For the final slot, i installed a spall liner, primarily to mitigate the damage from the 105mm HE guns which are quite common in tier 5. Other reasonable options include vents, toolbox and binoculars.

 

Consumables:

Small repair kit, and small med kit are just in case something gets hit, the large repair kit is for the passive bonus to repair speeds.

 

Ammunition:

The MBP can only hold 55 rounds and has a very high rate of fire, this means there is a real possibility of running out of ammunition during a match. Because the MBP lacks the speed to run away, I play it with 15 rounds of APCR which is more than enough to kill a KV-1.

 

Crew Training:

With 4 crew slots (commander, gunner, loader, driver), the MBP matches the non-premium tier 4 Matilda perfectly. It also matches the tier 8, 9 and 10 British medium tanks, except that they have the loader manage the radio, while for the MBP, the commander does it. The main difference this makes is that situational awareness shouldn't be trained on the commander, as it wont benefit the non-premium tanks.

 

Pros:

-good dpm

-decent armor

-very high penetration for APCR

-good hit points

-good traverse speeds

-preferential match making (tier 5 and 6 only)

-only British premium medium

 

Cons:

-slow

-below average accuracy on the gun

-turret is easy to hit, and sometimes damage

-low ammunition stock

-high gold cost for a tier 5 premium (1750 gold)

 

Should you buy this tank?

If you don't mind taking things slow, and enjoy tearing into anything that crosses your path, then this might be the tank for you. As this is a somewhat uncommon tank to encounter on the battle field, most players are unsure how to deal with you when they find you. By surprising your enemies with the high rate of fire, you can rip into them and do significant damage before they realize what they got themselves into. The APCR penetration, combined with the MM, means that this tank will always have a good chance of doing damage, no matter what tank it encounters on the battle field.

 

and to finish, here's an action shot showing the armor at work. (results -  win, with 4 kills)

 


Edited by salaja, 25 March 2014 - 01:48 PM.


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Matilda Black Prince – Premium Tank Review

Manufacturer: United Kingdom (1941, prototype)

Tier V Medium Tank

 

So… you want to command the Matilda Black Prince, eh? Well, listen up chaps, because this metal beast is no easy ride. A cunning commander will get his tank in the right position to unleash hell on the enemy, but make a mistake, and you’ll find yourself out of engagement range, or worse, blasted to scrap metal. I’m here to make sure that doesn’t happen.

 

 

- Is this you? Read on, and hopefully you will learn a few tips to avoid being wrecked again.

 

 

Firepower

 

A legacy of British tank doctrine, the 6-pdr guns are versatile weapons designed for engaging enemy armour while supporting the advance of infantry. In-game, this translates to a gun with a high rate of fire and average penetration; however, the damage per shot is not quite so spectacular. This is usually adequate for methodically picking apart most enemy tanks that you encounter, including most Tier V Mediums and TDs. You will have no trouble penetrating Tier III and IV tanks, as well as many of the less-armoured Tier V tanks. However, use caution when shooting at Tier V Heavies and other tanks with very thick armour, particularly the Soviet KV series; aim for weak spots to avoid any shells bouncing. It’s rare that you’ll encounter a high number of Tier VI tanks in one game, but basic knowledge of enemy weak spots should be sufficient.

 

Because the Matilda BP can only carry a mere 55 shells, it is strongly advised to conserve your ammunition, as the high rate of fire can see you deplete your magazine quickly if you’re not careful. For most situations, stock up on AP shells, and only take a few HE shells – this is down to personal preference. Gold APCR shells provide a significant boost to penetration, but the cost-effectiveness is still very much a choice for the player to make.

 

The turret offers very respectable gun depression and great gun elevation. Combining this comfortably wide arc with the faster turret traverse typical of most British tanks, lining up a shot should be easy even when angled around the slope of a hill. However, a word of caution; the tank’s unmodified aim time is just slightly longer than the reload time, so for maximum accuracy, it’s recommended to wait an extra fraction of a second before firing, if the situation permits.

 

 

- Taking aim. Make every shot count!

 

 

Armour

 

The Matilda Black Prince has exactly the same hull as its predecessor, the Tier IV Matilda. While on paper this may seem somewhat below-average for Tier V (75 mm), the front of the tank is surprisingly effective at bouncing weak or poorly-aimed shots, thanks to sloped panels. Angling is essential in any engagement to protect the tank from damage. Because the turret is placed slightly forward of the centre of the tank, this usually permits you to peek around cover while protecting your more vulnerable rear armour; taking engine damage can paralyse this already slow tank. The turret itself has armour almost as thick as the hull, which offers decent protection, but the boxy shape means it’s less likely to bounce shots. In particular, high-calibre shells hitting the rear of the turret can occasionally cause ammo rack damage, crippling the tank’s offensive capabilities. The side skirts have some thin spaced armour, which offer some extra protection for your tracks.

 

Having an above average hit point count (610 HP) means that you’re unlikely to be destroyed in one shot, except by well-aimed artillery and/or ammo rack explosions. This is enough health to take a few shots and keep on going, but by no means should you be soaking up damage for the team – that is the role of proper heavy tanks. If you’ve taken significant damage, this should serve as a warning that you need to relocate to a safer position, out of the line of fire of enemy tanks that are targeting you.

 

 

- Getting ready to roll across the desert sands.

 

 

Mobility

 

Arguably the single worst aspect of the Matilda Black Prince is its extremely weak engine. The only noticeable redeeming quality it has is the reduced chance of fire compared to most engines. However, if the engine is getting damaged, you probably have more serious and immediate issues than the possibility of an engine fire, and you need to eliminate the immediate threat. The weak power ratio means that attempting to go up even a shallow incline can reduce your speed to a crawl, and deep rivers or swamps can be a death sentence for the careless tank commander. While it is a relatively less mobile tank, the hull traverse isn’t too bad, allowing you to comfortably angle your armour. However, when turning around on a slope, it may be easier just to come to a stop, turn, and then accelerate again.

 

 

- Getting painted up with winter camouflage in the garage.

 

 

Auxiliary Equipment

 

The MBP’s radio has a signal range significantly higher than other British tanks of similar tiers, which helps compensate for the tank’s poor speed. For players who like to take on the role of “team leader”, this can be a useful tool in helping coordinate your allied tanks. The tank’s view range is about average; it’s not particularly short, but it’s not far enough to act as spotter for other tanks (unless they’re in close range).

 

As a Premium tank, the Matilda BP is no slouch for earning silver. Even if you are defeated, you will still make some money unless you’ve used a few consumables. This income margin is enough to support the use of the basic consumables on other tanks, or to help pay for temporary camouflage. On that note, it’s worth paying silver to buy camouflage on this tank, since you will be able to afford it, and every edge that you have over the enemy is important – just don’t rely on it to stay hidden forever. It’s also possible to use the tank for crew training, but exp generation isn’t always that fast, and it doesn’t have a seat for a Radio Operator.

 

For mounted equipment, the Wiki recommends Improved Vents, Gun Rammer, and Gun Laying Drive. This is decent advice, as it capitalises on the strengths of the MBP’s rapidly delivered firepower, and Vents are good for an overall performance boost. In terms of consumables, the standard set of Small Repair Kit, Small First Aid Kit, and Manual Fire Extinguisher should be sufficient for most battles.


 

- Make terrain work to your advantage.

 

 

Combat Tactics

 

The Matilda BP is very much a tank for the strategist. It rewards the patient hunter, but shackles speed fiend and underwhelms the juggernaut. Maintaining battlefield awareness is absolutely essential to ensure that your tank is kept out of the line of fire, as well as being deployed for maximum effectiveness of firepower. Not only is it important to keep track of the approximate disposition of your own team, but also try and predict what positions the enemy will take. What would you do if you were in their position? How might they be unpredictable? How can your tanks deploy to be tactically flexible yet effective at attacking / defending / taking an objective? Keep an eye on the minimap at all times. Plan your route while the timer is counting down to the start of the battle.

 

Being a “second line” tank means that early in the game, you must be moving up well behind a tank with more serious armour. Let enemy heavies duel each other while targeting enemy stragglers or flankers that might be trying take advantage of an ally distracted by a frontal assault. For prolonged fire fights, staying behind cover is absolutely essential as the tank’s bulky profile is not well suited to staying hidden once its position is revealed by firing. Note that your slow speed means that once you’ve picked your path to the objective / enemy base, it will be very difficult to relocate rapidly, so choose wisely – it is inadvisable to take a path alone. When playing defensively, choose positions where you can cover a wide area with your fast-turning turret, but remain protected by solid cover.

 

Enemy tanks that the MBP can comfortably engage include all Tier IV tanks and below, as well as Tier V light tanks and weakly-armoured TDs and medium tanks. Good penetration against these tanks combined with a fast rate of fire will make short work of anything that is exposed to your fire. Use caution when engaging Tier V mediums, as while they are unlikely to wipe you out in one shot, they can certainly do some damage. Beware of heavy tanks for the same reason, as they can simply put out more damage and survive more shots than you can; don’t attack one without support or unless it is already weakened. Do not forget to aim for weak points! Use extreme caution when approaching entrenched tank destroyers, as their high penetration will make short work of your armour and the large target that is the turret. Also take cover immediately if artillery shells are targeting you, since SPGs love to drop the hammer on slow-moving tanks, of which the MBP is a prime candidate.

 

 

Right… did you get all that? Don’t forget to read up on the Wiki (http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Matilda_Black_Prince) for some hard numbers, and other player-written guides on the internet to help you succeed. Now get out there and show them what a proper British tank can do!

 

 

- Onwards to victory!

 

 

Afterword

 

The MBP, while it does share certain characteristics with other British tanks, is very much unique, and is not seen on the battlefield as often as other Tier V premium tanks due to the relative difficulty of using it effectively. While the MBP can be awkward and restrictive at first, successful use of the tank can be a very rewarding experience, as it truly challenges the tank commander to the fight to the best of their abilities. If you’re looking for an easy-to-drive premium tank, the Matilda Black Prince is not for you; but if you’re up for a challenge and have your wits about you, it is quite fun to play. If you have not used British tanks before, I strongly recommend playing up to the Tier IV Matilda medium tank first.



Aiushtha #19 Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

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Matilda Black Prince

  • Matilda BP is an awesome tank with a 6-pounder gun fitted in the A27 turret. Some say it’s a crappy tank, Slow, and has a lesser armor than the regular matilda, has a lot of flat surface, which making it easy to be penned. Anyway The Matilda BP is a pretty awesome tank once you get used to it. The biggest negative for it is speed.

(It is as slow as Slow Morris)

 

  • It has a good gun with a good pen, accuracy and amazing rof. Alpha is low but fast reload makes up for it. (U might run out of ammo pretty quickly) and the armor is pretty good as long as u angle it properly.

 

  • Reading is not as fun as watching a video that shows the fun and the Pros of the Matilda. So I found a good Matilda BP replay video from random You Tube. Enjoy!!

 

  • It’s a fun tank. Suitable for someone who love to rush. *Like me. When I use fast tank even in Pz.Sfl. IVc, I will tend to rush and make me go back to garage quite fast. But when you use slow tank especially Matilda BP, It will teach you on how to be more patient.

     

Pros

Cons

  • Armor is better than it appears thanks to heavy angles and a large internal gun mantle
  • High rate of fire
  • Relatively low profile
  • Above average HP
  • Good gun depression
  • Does not encounter tier 7 battles, unlike regular tier 5 tanks
  • Side skirts have thin spaced armor

 

  • Agonizingly slow, with poor power to weight ratio. Crawls uphill
  • Low damage and penetration
  • Small ammo capacity
  • Mediocre accuracy
  • Poor aiming time, gun reloads faster than it can aim
  • Largely inferior to the T-25 and Type 3 Chi-Nu Kai, yet costs more gold
  • Inferior to a regular Matilda in many aspects

Wanna Know More?

Turrets

Guns

Engines

Suspensions

Radios

V-Matilda Black Prince

V-QF 6-pdr Mk. V A

III-2xLeyland E165

V-Matilda Black Prince

IX-WS No.19 Special

Main Characteristics

Battle Tiers

5,6

Price

1,750

Hit Points

610 HP

Signal Range

570 m

Speed Limit

22km/h

Speed Limit Reverse

10km/h

Weight

30.041 t

Load Limit

31.95 t

Crews

Commander (Radio Operator)

Gunner

Driver

Loader

 

 

Hull Armor

Front -75 mm

Side – 70mm

Rear – 55mm

Turret Armor

Front – 76.2mm

Side – 63.5mm

Rear – 57.2mm

Armor

Mobility

Engine Power

Horse power / weight

Traverse Speed

Max Climb Angle

Hard terrain resistance

Medium terrain resistance

Soft terrain resistance

Fire Chance

Engine Type

190 hp

6.32 hp/t

35 d/s

25

1.00

1.30

2.30

15%

Diesel

Armament

Damage (Explosion radius)

AP – 75 HP

APCR – 75 HP

HE – 100 HP (0.66 m)

Penetration

AP – 110 mm

APCR – 180 mm

HE – 30 mm

Shell Price

AP - 45

APCR - 6 (gold)

HE - 32

Shell Speed

AP - 892 m/s

APCR - 1115 m/s

HE - 892 m/s

Damage / Min

AP - 1956.75 HP/min

APCR - 1956.75 HP/min

HE - 2609 HP/min

Accuracy

0.41 m

Aim time

2.30 s

Elevation Arc

-13°/+20°

Ammo Capacity

55 Rounds

Camo Value

Stationary

14.00 %

In Motion

9.50 %

When Firing

3.90 %

Battle Performance

Accuracy

63.2159 %


Conclusion :

The gun might only be 57mm, but it fires insanely fast. With 100% crew and no equipment, it fires at 27.2 rpm, giving a DPM of 2040. This alone is good, but because it's a premium tank, you should have equipment on it. With vents, this ROF goes up to 27.82 giving a DPM of 2086.5. With a rammer, vents and 100% crew, the DPM goes up to a frankly unfair 2320.

 

The gun has 110 pen, which is pretty good for tier 5, and although you have 11 pen less than the tier 4 Matilda with standard rounds, the prem rounds have an extra 35 pen (180) allowing you to tackle tier 6s. The prem rounds are also quite cheap (only 2,400) and you can easily make this money back because of how much money this tank rakes in.

 

The only immediate disadvantages that come to mind are the ammo capacity of 55 rounds, which can be drained quite quickly when you have a RPM >30 and the lack of speed (although as I said, this can help the tank).


So, for anyone looking for a great low tier premium, I'd say disregard the Churchill III, the Ram II, the Excelsior, or any other tier 5. Get yourself a BP. 

 

 

\:O/ Best Regards~Aiushtha


Edited by Aiushtha, 26 March 2014 - 07:20 PM.

 

rektify #20 Posted 26 March 2014 - 11:23 PM

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History
The Matilda itself didn't reach maturity until the Matilda II. The addition of the 2 pounder anti-tank gun meant it could finally put up a respectable fight against other tanks it encountered. While it was fine at the beginning of the war, as the war dragged on development in tank armour meant it became somewhat under gunned, and it lacked provision for HE ammunition. It became apparent that the Brits needed another Medium to replace the Matilda II. In this search for an economic alternative, and so developers hatched the idea of borrowing a turret from another design, to add more firepower to this well used unit.

 

Known only in prototype form for experimental purposes, the Matilda Black Prince is a marriage of the Matilda chassis and the Frankenstein like Cromwell turret commensurate with the sufficient 6-pdr Mk.V A gun. But technology in tanks was quickly overtaking even that measure, and the availability of the M4 Shermans from the US aptly satisfied the problem of an available medium tank and provided manufacturing capacity for other war assets.

 

The Africa Corps named Matilda the Desert Queen due to its stately canter, the Black Prince has that added sting that makes the Matilda so much more enjoyable. If you like the Matilda and do well with it, chances are better than good you will like the Black Prince even more. In the aspects of hull armour, defensive capability and pure enjoyment, the MBP is a welcome addition to the Premium range of tanks.

 

the elevated 6 pounder gun protrudes from the replacement A27 turret from a Cromwell

The Statistics
For the statistically inclined, the Matilda Black Prince is of the most survivable tanks, and the highest survival rate of any of the Matilda tanks. As a result its battle time is greater than the Shermans or Ram II, or even the T34. Its WR is competitive with all these tanks at a rather healthy 51.5%. Unlike many tier V tanks the Matilda Black Prince is only subject to tier VI battles. Among tier V tanks MBP is second in damage dealt and third in kills per battle. (vbaddict.net/statistics) It seems that MBT will more often than not be on the positive side as a contributor, and the costs of running it are not especially high, particularly if you can minimise your use of AP rounds.

 

alongside the regular Matilda, the Black Prince is considerably taller, with a more balanced silhouette

On Operation
The tank is still very slow especially uphill, so you will find yourself planning engagements with more care, likewise it is not conducive of large changes to a battle plan or making rapid piercing attacks. Once you commit to a plan you will be tempted to stick with it. Its forte lay in city brawling where it can knock off most similarly tiered opponents with aplomb and fight off tier VI's with some care, and an equally able hill fighter where its gun depression is an advantage in keeping the hull low. The relatively decent armour of the MBP gives it the HP to slug it out with its opponents, and it is common for enemy rounds to simply bounce off or not register a HP loss. Fires a very infrequent, so keep that in mind when selecting equipment. Track damage on the other hand seems common, but doesn't seem to detract from its speed or handling. Epic battles have been turned and won by many a Black Prince encounter, where as last man standing in a defending position at the flag the MBP has smoked the attackers to a man. Take a look around youtube for the glowing stories.

 

The chief quality that the replacement turret brings is that of the armament with the 6-pdr MkV A gun. This gun provides MBP with enough combative firepower within its battle tier. Subject to improvement via a 'Medium Caliber Tank Gun Rammer' and an 'Enhanced Gun Laying Drive' which will clip a little more time off the already absurdly fast ROF. It is this capacity that overwhelms its tougher opponents for reliable penetrating pressure, even though the gun is capable of one shotting skirting enemy with some damage or some of the lighter armoured tank encounters.

 

At 0.41 the accuracy is capable of sniping victims at range, where the view range of 350m exceeds the stock Matilda by 10m. Visual range can be enhanced by 'Coated Optics' adding a further 10% to a useful 385m. Tactically this would allow several shots against an approaching enemy one would not ordinarily have so very worthwhile considering, especially if you are given to some occasional bushwacking or enduring base defence.

 

Ammunition

The selection of rounds depends on what you find yourself in opposition to, but the magazine capacity is quite limited at 55 rounds, so you ought be thinking in terms of usefulness and need. While the general purpose round serves the gun well in most situations the tougher tier 5 and tier 6 opponents are better fought with AP. AP is quite expensive though, so you might want to become more adept at changing round selections when you need to, to conserve AP rounds for when you really need them, and to minimise the not so insignificant expense at 2,400c. HE I have found to be less useful due to its quite low penetration of 23-38mm, so I have taken the strategy of severely limiting its presence to make more room for more GP and AP rounds.

 

 

At 34 degrees the turret has fast enough traverse that you don't have to wait too long to catch up to the sight, but must be combined with traversing the hull to smack the more agile circling heathens like the adequately armed so still relatively dangerous M5 Stuart or M8A1. The cruisey smooth ride of the Matilda provides a nice stable platform for firing on the move, something the Brits trained for in the inter-war years, and something which will be necessary to keep momentum going especially up a grade. This isnt a tank that you want caught in the open climbing a hill, its slowness makes it too easy a target for gunners or artillery alike. Like you were warned earlier, you need to plan your way with some care, and you might think about escape routes should the situation change.

 

Matilda Black Prince on station covering the rear.

 

Matildas are popular tanks to many players, even those that wouldn't consider using one. Its slowness means it often finds itself riding the drag behind the pack, so it has a habit of arriving to clean up troublesome enemies blocking an advance, or rescuing team mates low on HP. The situation benefits MBT players too, who arrive to sort out scrappy battle scenes, pick off the troublesome easy ones and slap the big bad guy around who is feeling his fortunes waning.

 

Modules
Operationally the tank survives well, and brawls better because of its rate of fire, one would think enhancing this becomes more paramount when selecting modules because you have the opportunity to boost it with the 'Medium Caliber Tank Gun Rammer' and an 'Enhanced Gun Laying Drive'. In an emergency you can just drop the hammer and pray you get lucky; while often this works, sometimes it doesn't. The tough choice comes with the remaining module, do you opt to maximise cover, or do you opt to be able to see further. Personally I used a camo net because I had one spare, but I do think as the camo skill becomes more mature on the crew, you might find that Coated Optics serve you better. It does mean that to make the best use of it you would need to engage targets further out. In my own play style that might work to my advantage.

 

From the average statistics users selected Improved Ventilation 55.9%, Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer 47.4%, Enhanced Gun Laying Drive 31.4%, Coated Optics 7.9%, Medium Spall Liner, 7.6%, Toolbox 1.9%, Binocular Telescope 4.8%, Camouflage Net 8.6%, Enhanced Horizontal Leaf Springs 0.7%.

 

The camouflage livery available is as pleasing as it is individual

 

The Ledger
Matilda Black Prince costs ...............................1750g
Crew Training 100% ..........................................200g
Camouflage 125 per season..............................375g
57mm High-Explosive HE Mk. ...............................56c
57mm Armor-Piercing AP Mk. 1T ....................2,400c
57mm AP Composite-Rigid APCR Mk.1T .............32c
Medium Caliber Tank Gun Rammer ............200,000c
Enhanced Gun Laying Drive .......................500,000c

Camouflage net...........................................200,000c

 

overlooking an Alecto, the Matilda Black Prince is a stately looking rig

 

As a Premium tank there is nothing to research, so the additional funds earned are best put into advancing crew training and perks. Buying 100% trained crew from the outset is a sensible choice so that you can get to work on that as early as possible. Premium tanks are nearly always credit positive even in defeat, which makes them good bankers to support other worthy projects. Potential buyers need to be cognisant of the slow speed which they can test for their tastes with the stock Matilda. Once accepted the rewards of the Matilda can be better realised.

 

 

 

 

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Edited by ZULU401, 28 March 2014 - 05:12 AM.





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