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Death2846 #41 Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:20 AM

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View PostFruity_Ninja, on 10 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

That would mean he's still in the clan.  I love it...

 "We have 75%ers in our clan"

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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Okay, let me start by saying that we did have a guy with 75%, he has since left to focus on studies.

 

From before, the OP isn't exactly clear on what he means. He could mean left the clan to focus on studies, in which case he'd be wrong (as you've all pointed out), but if he could mean that he left playing actively.



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View PostSkyguy7567, on 10 August 2014 - 01:18 PM, said:

 

I have tank inspector and I perfectly know angles. You can reliably penetrate a KV1S's front until it's angled like this.

 

 

Yet I'm bouncing off their hull all the time. Same goes for Russian 122mm guns. It's just trolly like that. And the strip you ask? It remains under 150mm until the front is angled even more.

 

I guess it all goes down to moar teamwork, something that my clanmates are not too good at. Well can't really blame them. A lot of them have 2k battles, or even less. 

If he's angled like that you don't shoot the front you shoot the front wheel. Easy. Are you deliberately trying to be stupid? Like, if an E100 is side on to you, where do you shoot. It? The massively angled UFP or its side? HURR DURR



Fruity_Ninja #43 Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:21 AM

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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

I know for a fact there is no russian tank which can scout better than the ELC. Your move.

 

I know for a fact that aliens probably created the pyramids.  Your move.

 

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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Have you heard of vision mechanics? A moving Hellcat becomes visible almost instantly because honestly it is a huge tank. I say that because the only time I'll be moving is if I've taken a shot or a shot has just barely missed me, meaning that I am well within their view range and should relocate immediately.


You shouldn't have to always be relocating. I'm starting to think you have trained fire fighting on your Hellcat and not camo and that's your problem



Death2846 #45 Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:23 AM

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View PostSkyguy7567, on 10 August 2014 - 03:12 PM, said:

The turret is really a gamble. I only shoot it when that's the only thing exposed. 

If RNG trolls you you'll end up here.

Spoiler

 

Shoot a little to the right and it'll practically always go through. There's a small spot of 150mm but generally it's all ~100mm and ~60mm.

 

View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

Didn't really feel like splurging 100,000 credits on repairs and ammo, you know?

 

Stop exaggerating.


Edited by Death2846, 10 August 2014 - 11:24 AM.


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View Postcammaman, on 10 August 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

The ELC has TERRIBLE view range. It has good camo and is fast. But has poor view range. If your stupid commander was getting out spotted then he was probably moving around a lot. Not in cover/camo. And the enemy was stationary with binocs/camo net in a bush. BASIC VISION MECHANICS.

 

But still, the ELC doesn't give a crap. It rushes in, and rushes out. The ELC is still the ELC :trollface:

I'm planning to use that and solve the vision control issue. Rush in, rush out, go anywhere, when a Hellcat gives chase, force him to turn a lot, and do intense flanking jobs.

 

View Postcammaman, on 10 August 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

If he's angled like that you don't shoot the front you shoot the front wheel. Easy. Are you deliberately trying to be stupid? Like, if an E100 is side on to you, where do you shoot. It? The massively angled UFP or its side? HURR DURR

 

I never said that I was going to shoot him like that. I'm saying that he'll have to be like that for me to bounce off his front. Yet I'm bouncing off KV1S fronts like crazy. If you can go take a look at Tank Inspector you should never bounce off the front hull of the 1S, regardless of where you shoot it. (And yes, I do have the brain to know when to shoot the sides) 


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Fruity_Ninja #47 Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:24 AM

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View PostDeath2846, on 10 August 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

From before, the OP isn't exactly clear on what he means. He could mean left the clan to focus on studies, in which case he'd be wrong (as you've all pointed out), but if he could mean that he left playing actively.

 

Re-read your 2nd quote

 

He said "we did have"

 

Implying?  Valiant effort though trying to help him dig out of his hole of lies.


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Shoot here duh. As long as you don't hit the autobounce plate or mantlet there shouldn't be much issue...


Edited by Laserbeam, 10 August 2014 - 11:26 AM.

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View PostFruity_Ninja, on 10 August 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

Re-read your 2nd quote

He said "we did have"

Implying?  Valiant effort though trying to help him dig out of his hole of lies.

 

I'm bad at reading. I'll stop now, I guess.



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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Didn't really feel like splurging 100,000 credits on repairs and ammo, you know?

 

I was using the 1S last night and its shell is expensive yet I managed to earn 400,000 credits in less than 15 battles. 


 

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View PostLaserbeam, on 10 August 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

 

Shoot here duh

 

Why there when you have this? And you have the incorrect shell type. Hellcats don't fire 155mm HE shells.

 


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Last night KAC decided that pubs were causing us damage on the cellular level, and went and played some Stronkholds. 5 games later, using only a single KV-1S, and a bunch of tanks we wanted to train crew on/needed to triple for we had an 80% WR. I wasnt even firing gold in my T-150, and came away from one game against a KV heavy lineup with 2k damage. This stronkholds thing isnt hard OP, you just need a bunch of competent players and something approximating a plan.

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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 01:19 PM, said:

Have you heard of vision mechanics? A moving Hellcat becomes visible almost instantly because honestly it is a huge tank. I say that because the only time I'll be moving is if I've taken a shot or a shot has just barely missed me, meaning that I am well within their view range and should relocate immediately.

Holy shit. My eyes are bleeding.



Skyguy7567 #54 Posted 10 August 2014 - 11:37 AM

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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Have you heard of vision mechanics? A moving Hellcat becomes visible almost instantly because honestly it is a huge tank. I say that because the only time I'll be moving is if I've taken a shot or a shot has just barely missed me, meaning that I am well within their view range and should relocate immediately.

 

Have you heard of camoflage values? That's a Hellcat with 100% camo crew. Mine is at 98%.

 

 

When moving, you have to be 23% closer to the enemy than its view range (Also affected by binos, optics and crew skills in case you don't know)

 

So, if that applies, a 100% crew KV1S without any view range extension stuff would have to be within 254m of the MOVING Hellcat in order to spot it.


Edited by Skyguy7567, 10 August 2014 - 11:39 AM.

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View Post_Boris_, on 10 August 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

 

Why shoot there? Shoot the top right corner of his tracks.. tracked + damage every time, easy flanking from here on out.

 

Because the enemy isn't always exposing his hull.


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View PostTimberWolffe, on 10 August 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Have you heard of vision mechanics? A moving Hellcat becomes visible almost instantly because honestly it is a huge tank. I say that because the only time I'll be moving is if I've taken a shot or a shot has just barely missed me, meaning that I am well within their view range and should relocate immediately.


Why should you have to relocate so often in a Hellcat. If you have camo skills, sitting behind a bush and all that good stuff, how are enemies supposed to spot you with this.



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View Post_Boris_, on 10 August 2014 - 03:38 PM, said:

Why shoot there? Shoot the top right corner of his tracks.. tracked + damage every time, easy flanking from here on out.

 

Depends on your ping, the speed that the 1S is moving at and your skills. I don't do that if the 1S is moving at 40km/h because I'm not good enough to shoot there 99% of the time.

But at least I'm getting better at it (shaved ~1.4k hitpoints off a Lowe in a Super Pershing because I did this  :trollface:)

 

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View Postkarl0ssus1, on 10 August 2014 - 03:28 AM, said:

Last night KAC decided that pubs were causing us damage on the cellular level, and went and played some Stronkholds. 5 games later, using only a single KV-1S, and a bunch of tanks we wanted to train crew on/needed to triple for we had an 80% WR. I wasnt even firing gold in my T-150, and came away from one game against a KV heavy lineup with 2k damage. This stronkholds thing isnt hard OP, you just need a bunch of competent players and something approximating a plan.

 

Yeah, but half his clan haven't ground to tier 6 yet so that is a struggle...



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OP I'm going to throw this out there but you're full of more crap than a showbag. Hellcat a large tank? Everyone using gold rounds? OP premium tanks at Tier 6? I think you need to have a good hard look at yourself and your clan. I then stronkly suggest you go and read the wiki on the mechanics of this game (you display a clear misunderstanding of how they work), read up on the Tier 6 tanks used (understand WHY they're used), read up on the weak spots of said tanks and then watch some videos of Tier 6 battles and strats. 

 

What you're currently doing is clearly wrong and everyone here is taking the piss out of you because you display a flagrant ignorance of how this game works. Instead of qq-ing on the forums, read the wiki and get better at the game instead of trying to change it to bring it down to your level. 


Edited by VanPelt, 10 August 2014 - 11:57 AM.

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cam....no point in trying to prove yr point....it's a lost cause from the moment he said "Tier 6 premium tonk"




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