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Commander_Dusty #1 Posted 08 September 2014 - 03:34 PM

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So as you may see here from just one of the new light tanks at tier 8, it's making me wonder wheher or not they will make the current light tanks obselete?

 

Firstly, from just this one tank, The SpahPanzer has more Hp, a similar mobility, better gun depression and rate of fire/similar alpha than a WZ132, it even fires freaking HE rounds with 100mm pen and 320 alpha, the Wz has only 50 pen -_-

The darn german tank even hase a better aim time and accurracy I think of 2.1sec

It seems to outclass the wz in every way, except for armor, which at 50mm on the turret/48 on the hull isn't even going to hold up against HE from the german light.

 

Though I haven't seen the data for the other lights I am going to assume the Russian lights will have better armor and play similar or better than the wz132 as the mobile/slightly better armored scouts with decent alpha guns, while the US lights will probably play like a chaffee and have good gun depression, decent turrets and high rof with low alpha.

this just begs the question whether on not the my beloved WZ132 should get a buff to balance the lights? perhaps comparable gun stats? more armor? better view range?

 

Note, though I haven't got the amx 13-90, It think it should perhaps get an aim time buff to remain competitive against the new tanks too


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13 90 needs a vstab, not an aim time buff, although it's not obsolete because autoloader. The WZ is definitely outclassed though.

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Tier 8: WZ needs a review, 13 90 is still potent as it is.

Tier 7: Afkpanther is just an E-50 without the armor advantages, WZ is unremarkable, 13 75 is almost completely outclassed by T71, and the crazy 10-shell autoloader American blows them all away. Definitely they'd need a buff, all 3 current LT.

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Tier 8 lights are becoming like tier 10 mediums - 13 90 = BatChat, RU251 = Leopard 1, T54 LT = T62A. T49 has a derp gun, wouldn't be good for tourneys, but it is very fun lol. The WZ is outclassed though. For tier 6s, the American T6 has 2 guns - an autoloader that is worse than the 12t and a single-shot pew pew cannon that is better than the Type 64, but it is slower and much less maneuverable than both.

 

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Low tiers seem fine, except maybe the M5 Stuart might be a tad underpowered now considering the anaemic penetration of the 37mm.

It's the high tiers I'm worried about, specifically the AMX 13 75 and the WZ-132. The AMX 13 75 only exists as a gateway to the AMX 13 90 and is failure compared to the T71. The WZ-132 seems to be outclassed by the RU 251 in almost every aspect. Those two are the ones that need attention.

 

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View Postmttspiii, on 08 September 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

Tier 8: WZ needs a review, 13 90 is still potent as it is.

Tier 7: Afkpanther is just an E-50 without the armor advantages, WZ is unremarkable, 13 75 is almost completely outclassed by T71, and the crazy 10-shell autoloader American blows them all away. Definitely they'd need a buff, all 3 current LT.

Tier 6: There's 12t, VK28.01 (my opinions of which are invalid since I grinded them a long time ago), T21, MT-25 (which has just been buffed), 59-16...

 

I think the wz131 is fine as it is, but perhaps they could buff the guns on it, along with an improvement on the 59-16's autoloader pen values
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View PostBlitzkreig95, on 08 September 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

 

I think the wz131 is fine as it is, but perhaps they could buff the guns on it, along with an improvement on the 59-16's autoloader pen values

 

The WZ131 is probably going to get out-classed by the LTTB, T71 and the M41 Bulldog, let alone the 13 75.

 

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View PostZynth, on 08 September 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

The WZ-132 seems to be outclassed by the RU 251 in almost every aspect. 

Yeah, but the 132 gets better armor... (lol)


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View PostEzz, on 08 September 2014 - 05:00 PM, said:

Yeah, but the 132 gets better armor... (lol)

 

meant to be obvious sarcasm but incase anyone actually believe you..... whats the point to have armor in LT? like the T-54L

 

 


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View PostIJN_Nagato, on 08 September 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

 

meant to be obvious sarcasm but incase anyone actually believe you..... whats the point to have armor in LT? like the T-54L

 

AFK panther boast thick frontal armor, 80mm...... (lol)

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The 13 75 needs serious reconsideration.


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View PostIJN_Nagato, on 08 September 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

 

meant to be obvious sarcasm but incase anyone actually believe you..... whats the point to have armor in LT? like the T-54L

 

The Light T-54 actually has a decent turret if I'm not mistaken, enough to reliably bounce <200 pen guns.

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View PostStormtroop3r, on 08 September 2014 - 11:51 PM, said:

 

The Light T-54 actually has a decent turret if I'm not mistaken, enough to reliably bounce <200 pen guns.

 

and due to the armor the T-54L plays alot like a med , which would have you asking why are you using this when you can just use the tier 9 T-54?

 

the tank itself is not bad....i can see as an additional to the collection


 

 


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View PostIJN_Nagato, on 09 September 2014 - 12:07 AM, said:

 

and due to the armor the T-54L plays alot like a med , which would have you asking why are you using this when you can just use the tier 9 T-54?

 

while the tank itself is not bad....

 

Wait... The T-54 is not already light tank? Wut?

 

Heavy tank armor, light tank speed, medium tank DPM. Well it becomes a laser cannon with HEAT.

 

The T-54 is just a combination of all the advantages of heavy, medium and light tanks.


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View PostIJN_Nagato, on 09 September 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

 

and due to the armor the T-54L plays alot like a med , which would have you asking why are you using this when you can just use the tier 9 T-54?

 

while the tank itself is not bad....

 

Same size and mm, so you're trading 550HP, alpha, DPM, pen, maybe gun handling and a lot of armour for...better mobility? 

 

Might be decent in tier 8 CW/stronkholds but otherwise...



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View PostSkyguy7567, on 09 September 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

Wait... The T-54 is not already light tank? Wut?

 

Heavy tank armor, light tank speed, medium tank gun. Well it becomes a laser cannon with HEAT.

 

thats why i am saying unless you intend to go T-54L just for the sake of adding into your collection or for purely CW / stronkhold uses like storm said ,you are better off with a real T-54 rather than the LT one

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View PostIJN_Nagato, on 09 September 2014 - 12:11 AM, said:

 

thats why i am saying unless you intend to go T-54L just for the sake of adding into your collection or for purely CW / stronkhold uses like storm said ,you are better off with a real T-54 rather than the LT one

 

Well let's hope it gets hit by the nerf bat, especially on the engine power as SirFoch had suggested, from the 700 to the tier 10 meds' 580. Then it'll give the T-54L some real stuff to play with. Power to weight form 20 to 16.5.

 

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great now that the OP has made a single complaint about a german tank, its gonna be nerfed to hell. Did the OP mention its armour?, someone said yesterday its 20mm.

 



 


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T-54L would make a better scout due to camo and mobilty but not by much.

 

Plus it is a lower tier so it gets lower MM weight (48 vs 72) even if it doesn't get actual lower MM tier spread. You can also use it for tier 8 limited game modes.


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Gee, maybe not all tanks in class need to perform the same? Totally outclassed is an exaggeration. WZ probably has better camo than the rest of them too. Its pretty damn good in that important regard

 

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