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B4T0 #21 Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:02 AM

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Bye, bye t9 and 10 brit meds if they keep it that way till the end cause 240 pen and no way to compensate (hesh instead of HEAT) will break those 2 tanks

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B4T0 #22 Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:10 AM

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they should nerf the pen of regular rounds by only a bit cause now HTs will have more pen than the t10 meds. the prem rounds should have the major nerfs cause if they follow through with this, all you'll see people shooting is prem rounds
 
 
 

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AMX 50 120

  • Penetration of the Frt.Prf. mle. 1945 shell for the 120 mm SA46 gun reduced from 325 to 282 mm.
  • Penetration of the Prf. mle. 1943 shell for the 120 mm SA46 gun reduced from 257 to 241 mm.

I wonder if the changes are made to AMX 50 B too? Both are using the same gun and ammo though...

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kage04 #24 Posted 19 June 2015 - 10:45 AM

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Centurion Mk. 7/1

Penetration of the APDS L-28 shell for the 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1 gun reduced from 268 to 240 mm.

Not cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  need a better reload time if your doing this.



Gims #25 Posted 19 June 2015 - 11:38 AM

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View PostDeathskyz, on 18 June 2015 - 05:08 PM, said:

I like the changes.

WG should lower pen values and improve gun handling so you know, aiming becomes more important.

 

players keep aiming as far as possible, less movement. sniper mode.

BlackPaw #26 Posted 19 June 2015 - 12:08 PM

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AMX 30 1er prototype

  • Penetration of the OCC-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun increased from 320 to 330 mm.
  • Penetration of the OFL-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun reduced from 260 to 242 mm.

 AMX 30 B

  • Penetration of the OCC-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun increased from 320 to 330 mm.
  • Penetration of the OFL-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun reduced from 260 to 242 mm.

WHY on earth???? while the others med prem are reduced to 310 or even 300.... why increase these French med prem to 330?

 

UK med nerf to 240 with no compensation... from godly pen to subpar pen ... on par with Tier 8 indien panzer... TIER 8 vs TIER 10...

without proper prem ammo to be used to... and cent7/1 having stupid long reload... useless with that 240 pen with low ROF.  others med with the same gun are even 242-243 with better ROF... 

 

E50 has better penetration the E50M....

 

Who create this changed parameters? Do they even play their own game?  Do they have sound mind and solid logical thinking? I dont' think so.... even this is a test there are way too many illogical changes too much for proper testing.


Edited by BlackPaw, 19 June 2015 - 12:37 PM.


oktankyou #27 Posted 19 June 2015 - 12:22 PM

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Why is stb-1 gun merged less compared to other Mt? 

And why doesn't amx30 receive any aim time/dispersion buff compared to other mt, even Leo (similar tank, better than amx30 in all aspect except having a slightly less forgiving armour)  receive aim time and dispersion buff which is what it depends on..


Edited by oktankyou, 19 June 2015 - 12:25 PM.


oktankyou #28 Posted 19 June 2015 - 12:27 PM

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Just saying... but heres the tank description for amx 30: " The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower" so this update...

Would suggest tell need to be on avg 10mm,, 20 is too much


Edited by oktankyou, 19 June 2015 - 12:36 PM.


Pakmanious #29 Posted 19 June 2015 - 01:19 PM

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View PostDeathskyz, on 19 June 2015 - 01:08 AM, said:

I like the changes.

WG should lower pen values and improve gun handling so you know, aiming becomes more important.

 

Totally agreed, accuracy RNG is so much more infuriating than penetration or damage RNG.

 

On a side note, anyone having issues trying to log into the CT server?


Edited by Pakmanious, 19 June 2015 - 01:20 PM.


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Whao, that's some nice Buff for E50M and Leopard 1.

 

 


BlackPaw #31 Posted 19 June 2015 - 02:05 PM

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View PostPakmanious, on 19 June 2015 - 12:19 PM, said:

 

Totally agreed, accuracy RNG is so much more infuriating than penetration or damage RNG.

 

On a side note, anyone having issues trying to log into the CT server?

 

Nerf the Pen is okay and should definitely be done, but should be done with more logical... and with reasonable parameters considering tank comparing to others in its tier.

 

Look that some illogical and strange numbers they put in... like what I post above and see if that is logical?


Edited by BlackPaw, 19 June 2015 - 02:06 PM.


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View PostBabySofy, on 19 June 2015 - 10:07 AM, said:

AMX 50 120

  • Penetration of the Frt.Prf. mle. 1945 shell for the 120 mm SA46 gun reduced from 325 to 282 mm.
  • Penetration of the Prf. mle. 1943 shell for the 120 mm SA46 gun reduced from 257 to 241 mm.

I wonder if the changes are made to AMX 50 B too? Both are using the same gun and ammo though...

Age of non-auto-loader heavies ? :sceptic:

 

 

Foch isn't changed too. Whew.

 

Also, they buffed the 100mm on the 4502A to make it obvious that it's a better gun than the 88mm lol.


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View PostBlackPaw, on 19 June 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

 

Nerf the Pen is okay and should definitely be done, but should be done with more logical... and with reasonable parameters considering tank comparing to others in its tier.

 

Look that some illogical and strange numbers they put in... like what I post above and see if that is logical?

 

30B Buff is to make it a bit OP over the other L7 105mm meds and keep the gold sink status running for a bit longer. 


bashotokoro #34 Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:44 PM

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Curious why 120mm L1A1 on Conqueror has different penetration value compare to 120mm L1A1 on FV215b?

both use same type of shells

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パーシングのAPCR貫通下げられたら他国同格MTよりいいとこなくなるんですけど…



kenshin627 #36 Posted 20 June 2015 - 05:06 AM

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WOW,,, so IS4 and 121 has the same gun and both is in tier X (it still makes sense if 121 is in lower tier),,, but it has different penetration by 23 mm.. according to this "nerf" for "balancing" purpose or whatever lie they say,,, to do another fail WG Logic,,, hahhahahahahaha

Edited by kenshin627, 20 June 2015 - 05:07 AM.


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I know it's slightly off topic but is anyone experiencing any login issues with the current test server. I keep getting the incorrect username/password whenever I try and login.

Pakmanious #38 Posted 20 June 2015 - 10:39 AM

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View PostLord_Finnbot, on 20 June 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

I know it's slightly off topic but is anyone experiencing any login issues with the current test server. I keep getting the incorrect username/password whenever I try and login.

 

Yeah I couldn't log in


NerfedCamper #39 Posted 20 June 2015 - 11:12 AM

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I guess the only tactic for playing Soviet mediums is to spam HEAT now ooh wait that is the main tactic for Soviet mediums already :teethhappy:

 

Some of the changes are just to funky E-50 and E-50M pen :amazed: then FV4202 and Centurion :facepalm:

 

View PostLord_Finnbot, on 20 June 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

I know it's slightly off topic but is anyone experiencing any login issues with the current test server. I keep getting the incorrect username/password whenever I try and login.

 

The server may have been offline for maintenance they tend to take it offline daily on the common test I've noticed.
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Again WG making it Pay to win to get get any were whats next slowing all the tanks down and making you buy with gold  super chargers to move faster

 






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