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PresidentDiddy #1 Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

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Hmm can you tell me?

OverDosedSanta #2 Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:10 PM

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Depends on your playstyle.


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View PostPresidentDiddy, on 15 October 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Hmm can you tell me?

Would you rather Armor and DPM(object 263), or Alpha and camo(268)?

That is the difference

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263 has good camo aswell. The only problem with it is the Open Top < me having one that is.

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Th fact that the 263 is open top is not much of a problem at all. You can reverse at 30km/h and traverse pretty well while the other TDs get nearly the same damage as you do from HE except the JPE-100, which on the othe hand is so slow and cn be easily hit directly by arty.

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well the 263 have to quickly get the hell out of one position if been spotted , having 263 without any sixth sense will make the player being at a big disadvantage

as for OP question ...
why don get both!?

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I only played the 263 on the test server, found it to have a good rate of fire, damge per shot was ok, camo was ok, but the arty factor was a problem, you get hit by arty you are going to be hurting. I have the 268 and find it has good camo, the front armour is good for a russian TD and the damage it puts out is good regardless of the 14.4 sec reload, it moves quicker than a IS-7, so for me the 268 is the pick, but I will still be getting both at some stage!

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I grinded the obj 263 line eventhough the reviews were bad
But in all, Obj 263 has the highest ROF, low alpha damage, but according to the WOT youtube channel, its DPM is comparable to the Obj 268 line, Your just pumping less dmg per shot compared to obj 268 but DPM wise, its comparable to obj 268
I think Obj 263 has better frontal armour than Obj 268
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Im going for both. DPM on the 263 is just 3 hp less in dpm. pnetration is not a big issue either, just be wary of the t95s if ur not using gold. ROF is excellent, and can afford to miss shots compared to the 268, though you shouldnt miss in the first place. camo is slightly better than 263 on the 268 and so is alpha. armor on the 263 is beast. but the problem is it is a LONG LONG grind to the 263. Im going down both, so yea.

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I alrdy grind 263, but 268 more good. More alpha and mobility.
Well 263 only have DPM and thick front armor.

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Although I don't own any of those, I heard that the 263 has big problems with HE-spewing arty, as it's an open top vehicle

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Well I have had both for a long time and rarely play them.

Object 268 Ive just never got the hang of and also seem to have the most abysmal luck with.  I was great on 704, and 268 is really just a fast 704, which sounds fantastic but  t10 MM problems are painful.  Tons of mediums/lights/ and arty all of which this tank is weak to.  Low gun traverse and depression mixed with one shot every 14 seconds and any light or medium tank that you miss will pretty much kill you with the help of arty within 14 seconds.  I do much better in t10 matches in my t9 t54.  Probably though its just my play style, which is over agressive for a lightly armored big gun tank like this.

I have much better luck in the Object 263 for whatever reason, but I would still say its one of the weakest tanks in the game.  No one plays it for good reason.  The only reason it has not been buffed is that it is played by a few die hard experienced players who like to be in a rare tank so its win rate is artificially high.  Buff it and its global win rate will drop, as a lot more mediocre players will then enjoy it.

What are its problems?  Well everyone says open top arty weakness, but that is not really true.  It has the most important stat for arty avoidance: high reverse speed (21mph). My 268 with a roof gets one shot just as easily as this open topped creature, but this tank can avoid arty pretty well.  Of course you will still get occasionally wrecked, but not near as often as slow tanks do.  So the story "big arty weakness with open top" is false. (well maybe true for players that dont know how to "arty dance").  Real problems are

1) Terrible armor--yes, the "awesome front armor" of this tank only makes up 1/3 of its front profile the LFP. The huge lower glacis is easy to pen for any t8+ tank, and the huge mantlet any t9+ (which damages gun as well of course).  With the rumour of "awesome frontal armor" people also love to throw gold rounds at you, so now the whole upper plate is also regularly penned by t9+ gold rounds.  IE most tanks you meet will have no trouble whatsoever at blasting right through your frontal armor.  Dont even start about HE rounds at the mantlet, or tall tanks shooting inside the open top. Sides have no armor, including a huge raised rear section of a very long tank (with ammo rack behind it) that players love to easily tag at 500 meters if a scout lights you up.  The foch of155 has *way* better front armor than this tank, with just one small weak spot, and it also gets a monster gun and is nearly as fast as the "awesome" 263.

2) Gun is t9 jagtiger gun. Its decent, but not a monster like the other t10 TDs have.  Gold rounds are apcr and a pitiful 40 more pen (330) than stock (290)  Really no point to even fire gold in this.  Compare it to object 268 450 pen HEAT, or all the 350 and 400 pen HEAT tier 9 tanks are throwing around.  Only nicety of gun is fast shell travel speed.  I find it easier to pick off long range targets than with slower velocity shelled guns.

3) It is nice and fast and maneuvers quite well. Best point is 20mph reverse speed as I said.  But its long and hard to hide as well.  Object 268 moves nearly as well as this tank, but much easier to hide.  Also has better camo than 263, but 263 camo is still good, just not excellent like 268.  These days however I find stealth sniping not much use at t10 though.  Most players there are experts, therefore they know all the hiding spots and all the "firing lanes" from those hiding spots.  If they do get into one, they know it and very quickly get back to cover.  The guns on both these tanks with poor depression and lateral movement makes it hard to line up a shot before they get back into cover.

This mostly forces you to play big gun back up peek a boom for the heavy squad, lurking a bit behind them.  Again, 263 is terrible at peek a boom because its so long.  To get round that corner and shoot you have to expose your lovely huge sides for a bit, and good players love to make you pay.  Its length also causes crowding issues at busy corners.  268 with big alpha and shorter size is much more useful in this part of the game, which is mostly where t10 TD are consigned.

The only reason I do quite well in this tank is because it is rare and everyone wants to kill it for a badge.  I use this to lure greedy opponents into suicide charges or hasty advances to try and get the coveted "object 263" kill.  I often die doing this, but just as often it gives my team the win since 3 or 4 tanks have recklessy exposed themselves or even charged to try and get the  263 kill.  This also works with arty.  Soon as sixth sense lights up, go on a mad arty dodging jig while all 5 of the enemy t10 match arty ignore everyone else and try to kill you.  Fast and wild movement forward and back leads to a lot of wasted shots. Meanwhile your teams arty is happily pulverising proper targets leading to a win for your team.  These absurd tactics are another reason that 263 global win rate is artificially high, all of which disguises the fact that this tank (and the rest of the 2nd russian line) badly needs buffing and is the worst tank line in the game.

Anyway, these are the woes of these two tanks.  The 268 is excellent, I just suck or have bad luck in it.  The 263 has serious issues. Only play if you want a challenge and to be a rare vehicle.

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obj 263 will do better for me I think

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View PostJWill97, on 29 April 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

obj 263 will do better for me I think

ya obj 263 will give u more steel wall if u know how to play this tank..

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View Postfire70, on 02 May 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Was quite possibility a good review but you just lost any creditably you had with these two sentences...

You are right, that was somewhat of an exaggeration.  But I do experience often that I go to a favourite sniping spot on my su122 44 or su100, and do well, but in the t10 matches players wander into those lanes much less often, such that I get frustrated that I did not just follow the heavies or meds and do close range support.  So overall I find t10 much less sniping friendly, but maybe I just do not know the current spots.  Only have 4.5k games afterall.

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Object 263 for the win!
Just bought it on live server and i am loving it so far (50 battles and counting).....

Awesome armour, just hide the lower glacius and wham! your almost invincible!

For all of the people that think its mantlet is easy pen, i just aim my gun up in the air once I've shot, while i'm reloading, and then the mantlet becomes an auto-bounce plate.
Also don't forget to use this tanks mobility, get in a great sniping spot, then move once your detected to somewhere they will not expect you!

So far i'm averaging around 3,600 damage per game in the mighty vehicle, and if you ever need any tips on how to play it, just send me a pm and ill reply as soon as i can!

 

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Untamedsoul #17 Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:24 PM

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i do own both TD, 263 is quite bouncy and 268 is ninja TD even when you shoot a target behind bush within range of 150~200m

 

but i think you shld get the 268 instead of 263, 263 it does have great DPM and mobility but its gun penetration that would let you dissapointed(lowest TD T10 penetration in entire game)







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