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Ezz #81 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:27 AM

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View PostDeadArashi, on 23 August 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

but like I said, a level of seriousness would be nice when it comes to tech tree proposals

And apologies if some of our salt takes away from the quality of these sorts of proposals. If only WG started implementing more of this sort of content instead of their 'overused jokes' i think everyone would be happier...well except their moonbase officials (#overused joke ;) )


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All good, i understand the desire for some quality banter towards WG. I mean, let's face it, its pretty easy when the community on the largly ignored Asia server can come up with better suggestions for techtree changes then WG themselves can

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Re-posting due to Photobucket, have modified slightly after discussion with DeadArashi. Will update opening post.


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Inglorious_Aussie_Tanker #84 Posted 23 August 2017 - 10:50 AM

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Has someone thought to ask Tan how we got the Cartoon Tanks?

Maybe the Same method could be used to start getting some New British Tanks across the line?

Just 2 at a time until we have filled the tree.


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View PostInglorious_Aussie_Tanker, on 23 August 2017 - 12:50 PM, said:

Has someone thought to ask Tan how we got the Cartoon Tanks?

Pretty sure we have yuri to thank.


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Weslam #86 Posted 24 August 2017 - 04:30 AM

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Sorry Arashi, I apologise for my unwarranted comments.

 

However, considering that Wargaming specifically decided that this (very clearly satirical) thread was more worth implementing into the game than the infinite actual serious tech tree proposals made by countless people across forums on every region, it's not entirely our fault for making fun of Wargaming's fetish for tier 8 premium pay to win.

 

As Ezz said, "P2W prems are WG's overused joke, you can't blame us for that."

 

It is Wargaming, after all, who are the ones constantly churning out tier 8 premium (black painted) after tier 8 premium (black painted) every week like they're locked in an arms race with themselves in the maddenning pursuit of creating more tier 8 premiums to outnumber the standard tech tree tanks.

 

So in all honesty, I wouldn't be too surprised if Wargaming actually introduced a tier 8 FV4030 prototype into the game as a premium medium, because that's what Wargaming does best.

 

As for your actual tech tree though, it looks pretty good. Perhaps you could add in the FV433 Abbot as a tier 5 or 6 artillery?


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DeadArashi #87 Posted 24 August 2017 - 09:49 AM

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nar I understand, WG basically smear the shit on themselves before we throw it... we're just here to make sure it sticks

 

anyway, FV433 Abbot.... I really would love this arty. You could replace the Crusader 5.5 at tier 7 and then add in the 4.5" and 5.5" guns. I just don't think people will react kindly to having tier tier 6 Bert replaced. The other alternatives are to find enough British SPG designs for a second, smaller caliber arty line, or to sell it as a tier 6 premium... in black of course



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View PostDeadArashi, on 24 August 2017 - 09:49 AM, said:

anyway, FV433 Abbot.... I really would love this arty. You could replace the Crusader 5.5 at tier 7 and then add in the 4.5" and 5.5" guns. I just don't think people will react kindly to having tier tier 6 Bert replaced. The other alternatives are to find enough British SPG designs for a second, smaller caliber arty line, or to sell it as a tier 6 premium... in black of course

 

Maybe replace the CGC with the AS-90 SPG, and then swap out the Crusader 5,5 with the Abbot.

 

A 105mm gun would be rather underwhelming for tier 7, sure, but give it good mobility and reload, and I think it might work fine.


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View PostDeadArashi, on 24 August 2017 - 09:49 AM, said:

nar I understand, WG basically smear the shit on themselves before we throw it... we're just here to make sure it sticks

 


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DeadArashi #91 Posted 24 August 2017 - 04:34 PM

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going by gun caliber though it might be a bit of an issue going from a 234mm to 155mm

 

maybe: FV304 -> FV433 Abbot -> AS-90 -> FV207 -> FV3805

 

Both the Abbot and AS-90 are newer then the others but then again it wouldn't be the first time WG have used a newer tank at a lower tier

 

 


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View PostDeadArashi, on 24 August 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

going by gun caliber though it might be a bit of an issue going from a 234mm to 155mm

 

maybe: FV304 -> FV433 Abbot -> AS-90 -> FV207 -> FV3805

 

Both the Abbot and AS-90 are newer then the others but then again it wouldn't be the first time WG have used a replacement at a lower tier

 

The same thing goes for the French line, where the AMX 13 AM and 13 F3 are newer than the Lorraine/Batchat artilleries.

 

And besides, the Object 261 leads from the 212A, which has a bigger gun.

 

I'm not entirely sure if the AS-90 would fit in tier 8, because it has a very high fire rate and good mobility. It could work though, I guess.

 

But it doesn't matter too much, either way should do.


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yer but theres bits of historical inaccuracy with the Soviet SPGs. The SU-14 and SU-14-1 both only had 203mm and no 152mm, the SU-14-2 should be the SU-14-Br2 and only was meant to have a 152mm. They could also add, after the S-51 the Obj 261-1 and Obj 261-2 which then lead to the Obj 261-3 currently at tier 10 (just to side track from the British slightly)

 

But I see no issue with the mobility or RoF of the AS-90 fitting in at tier 8, the FV304 and Abbot before it both (would) have good mobility and RoF as well and we also get rid of a fake tier 10 in the process and a ceremoniously large caliber gun... now only if we could change the american T92 to the T93, the gun caliber win the game would be 203mm at most then and balance of the class would probably be easier since they don't need to allow for 234/240mm guns



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Soviet could make a second spg line, branch out of su-8 and end with Nona-s or something. Fast, high arc, low damage high tier spg.
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View PostDeadArashi, on 24 August 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

yer but theres bits of historical inaccuracy with the Soviet SPGs. The SU-14 and SU-14-1 both only had 203mm and no 152mm, the SU-14-2 should be the SU-14-Br2 and only was meant to have a 152mm. They could also add, after the S-51 the Obj 261-1 and Obj 261-2 which then lead to the Obj 261-3 currently at tier 10 (just to side track from the British slightly)

 

But I see no issue with the mobility or RoF of the AS-90 fitting in at tier 8, the FV304 and Abbot before it both (would) have good mobility and RoF as well and we also get rid of a fake tier 10 in the process and a ceremoniously large caliber gun... now only if we could change the american T92 to the T93, the gun caliber win the game would be 203mm at most then and balance of the class would probably be easier since they don't need to allow for 234/240mm guns

 

All good points, fair enough.

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