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[_EzioAuditore_]

Flying_Elite, on 13 September 2016 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

Glad to see this dishonourable [redacted] gone from the game, at least on that particular account. Any chance _S_ will do the right thing and make a statement on the matter? Doubtful but it would certainly be the right move from them.

 

I'm pretty sure a fair few of them are using aim bots as well so i doubt so... He's not the only one there, and there's lots more in VAE as well.

[Lee_Shawran]

_EzioAuditore_, on 13 September 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

I'm pretty sure a fair few of them are using aim bots as well so i doubt so... He's not the only one there, and there's lots more in VAE as well.

Oh, you can check me first from now on, I was checked by wasaabi 2 weeks ago, and if you don't still believe, check here

Edited by Lee_Shawran, 13 September 2016 - 02:30 PM.

[Weebl]

Lee_Shawran, on 13 September 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

Oh, you can check me first from now on, I was checked by wasaabi 2 weeks ago, and if you don't still believe, check here

Lee, I am pretty sure the accusations are not levelled at you, or miracle, or any of the other guys who are good at tanks in your own right, however there are people in your clan who run dodgy mods, you know it and I know it. 

 

You have guys who are poor at this game and when they are relying on themselves in pubbies they suck. 

 

However when playing clanwars being positioned effectively by your callers, they are able to lead and land shots that sub 50%ers just don't make, they do this consistently. 

 

I get that you are offended that people are having a pop at your clan, and I also get that you are offended that people may be accusing you directly, but you really need to look at what is happening in your clan and make a decision on if you personally think that dodgy mods are widespread before taking the moral high ground. 

 

Please also note I am not saying you have 1 or 2 dodgy mod users, in reality I would be absolutely amazed if every clan didn't have the odd dodgy person, but there is a difference between the odd bad apple and a clan culture that encourages it and facilitates it. 

 

 

 

 

[Lee_Shawran]

_EzioAuditore_, on 13 September 2016 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

I'm pretty sure a fair few of them are using aim bots as well so i doubt so... He's not the only one there, and there's lots more in VAE as well.

 

and so on, can you make sure that all of your member are honest ? Or is there still someone using illegal mod secretly ? If you want to accuse someone, please point that person directly with your evidence

[Weebl]

Lee_Shawran, on 13 September 2016 - 06:50 PM, said:

 

and so on, can you make sure that all of your member are honest ? Or is there still someone using illegal mod secretly ? If you want to accuse someone, please point that person directly with your evidence

No, I can't guarantee that every one in my clan is absolutely clean, if you actually read what I wrote I even said I would be amazed if ANY clan is completely clean. 

 

As for evidence, unfortunately it relies on somebody being stupid enough to post a replay of them cheating, like Mockuradop on this thread, who used to be in VAE  

 

you our go for it with the standard 'you can't prove anything so it's not true' but time and again, when people and clans are proven and sanctioned for cheating and rigging, VAE are not clean and the accusations of widespread cheating (and I will say it again, widespread, not the odd guy who probably every clan has) have foundation. 

[Lee_Shawran]

Weebl, on 13 September 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

No, I can't guarantee that every one in my clan is absolutely clean, if you actually read what I wrote I even said I would be amazed if ANY clan is completely clean. 

 

As for evidence, unfortunately it relies on somebody being stupid enough to post a replay of them cheating, like Mockuradop on this thread, who used to be in VAE  

 

you our go for it with the standard 'you can't prove anything so it's not true' but time and again, when people and clans are proven and sanctioned for cheating and rigging, VAE are not clean and the accusations of widespread cheating (and I will say it again, widespread, not the odd guy who probably every clan has) have foundation. 

I did read it, and thank you for explaining that (and they didn't acknowlegde). But you also know that I have my own limit, why they don't put it into other shoes and what they would do. Could you have enough patient to bear if you were me ?

[Weebl]

Lee_Shawran, on 13 September 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

I did read it, and thank you for explaining that (and they didn't acknowlegde). But you also know that I have my own limit, why they don't put it into other shoes and what they would do. Could you have enough patient to bear if you were me ?

I *think* I know what you are saying (and your English is about 50000 times better than my Vietnamese so not having a go) 

 

Honestly, if I were in your position, I certainly would not be defending my clan on the forums and I would probably (as in 100% probability) have left the clan by now and tried to find a clan that better reflected my values and didn't drag my name down with it. 

[PanggaLalove]

Lee_Shawran, on 13 September 2016 - 07:04 AM, said:

I did read it, and thank you for explaining that (and they didn't acknowlegde). But you also know that I have my own limit, why they don't put it into other shoes and what they would do. Could you have enough patient to bear if you were me ?

 

 

 

How about you be a good lad and spill the beans on everyone you know using illegal mod in your clan? You know... To skip all this drama and stuff...

[Run_Away_Brave_Sir_Robin]

PanggaLalove, on 13 September 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

 

 

 

How about you be a good lad and spill the beans on everyone you know using illegal mod in your clan? You know... To skip all this drama and stuff...

its the situation of he would if you would...and you know drama drama drama

[rasco4000]

Napalmer, on 05 September 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

 

Put it this way, if WG saw in the battle logs that 6 tanks drowned and the battle wasn't reported by the enemy, it would look VERY suspicious.

 

As Neokai said, the opponent will get less fame points because of less exp earned.

Technically, not turning up is also (although minor) a rule violation. 

 

yes but not turning up has a auto system that will hand out penalty's with out having to report it. It is also VISIBLE which is something this all lacks 

[Run_Away_Brave_Sir_Robin]

rasco4000, on 13 September 2016 - 09:59 PM, said:

 

yes but not turning up has a auto system that will hand out penalty's with out having to report it. It is also VISIBLE which is something this all lacks 

this was put to rest why are you bringing this up lol

[rasco4000]

Im late to the party MA!!!

[AussieFirefighter]

Tanitha, on 12 September 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

As per the previous trend set.. We are processing some minor rule violations .. One player here and there, without announcements..
And the few major incidences are being announced here.

 

Following an incident where Fury clan was assisted by non active alt type clans (Wrath / Rage) offsetting late in the event.. and not turning up to battle.. and not participating in the event up until then ..

The following sanctions will be placed.

 

• Perma wrath and rage’s clan leader. (Non active / Likely alts / Etc)
• Demote officers of wrath and rage, to member. (to nuke the clans)
• Game ban Fury clan leader, likely main of several alts .. 30 days.
• Game ban Fury’s officers 3 days (for the clans rule violation)
• No adjustments to Fury’s awards (the rule violation had no affect on any awards)
• Wrath / Rage are not in any clan awards lists / didn't participate.

 

Regards
Tan

 

 

 

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Derog comments, insults; Content removed, user already sanctioned.

 

~neokai

Edited by neokai, 13 September 2016 - 08:20 PM.

[Run_Away_Brave_Sir_Robin]

AussieFirefighter, on 13 September 2016 - 11:04 PM, said:

 

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hold yourr tongue, stop trying to throw fire. tan and wg do the best they can to try be fair. if you. think its [edited] easy by all mean you take the reigns and we will put you in the same position tan is in. I call you out you asshat. stop being so rage induced, tan is only doing as the rules of the campaign and the comunity has asked of. 

 

Quote updated.

 

~neokai

Edited by neokai, 13 September 2016 - 08:21 PM.

[MagicalFlyingFox]

 

AussieFirefighter, on 13 September 2016 - 11:04 PM, said:

 

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Meanwhile trumz has copped it on the chin and left the clan.

 

Quote updated.

 

~neokai

Edited by neokai, 13 September 2016 - 08:23 PM.

[_EzioAuditore_]

AussieFirefighter, on 13 September 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

 

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Derog comments, insults; Content removed, user already sanctioned.

 

~neokai

 

oh look, time to blacklist/teamkill another one? 

[Tanitha]

Ranork, on 12 September 2016 - 10:19 PM, said:

Seriously WG you cannot justify the decision to penalise a clan or a clan leader that is a member of COAF for using an ALT clan to offset battle times in order to gain an advantage during a campaign whilst turning a blind eye to users of aimbots.

This is a single reason for the decline in the SEA player base.

A member of a certain clan that has posted his own replay, complaining of racist vilification (whilst founded), that clearly shows himself as using an aimbot is not in an way punished but a respected clan commander that is a member of COAF gets his/her account suspended for delaying a battle!

Which one is worse???

I bet the majority would say that it is the aimbot user seeking an advantage that is the major culprit here but the action against that individual and clan is to ignore it?

 Because it is too hard?

Where is the justice WG?

 

 

 

Best to get your COAF to send me the info in skype, instead of general uninformative complaining in the forums.

 

/Tan

[Tanitha]

SiKiN, on 13 September 2016 - 07:56 AM, said:

 

As with most clans I cannot speak on behalf of my clan, only a COAF can do such a thing but I can disclose that DeerHunter has apologised for the mistake and launched an appeal to WG. Now as I am not able to represent Fury here I will speak as a friend of those in RAGE and WRATH who are the real victims here. Who ever is at fault is redundant, these 100 or so players who are more in a clan for atmosphere and friends have now been asked to pack up and find new homes because of 1 mistake. Although there is anger amongst most of them they have been supportive of what has happened and will do what is necessary over the next few days without malice because realistically there is nothing any of them can do or could have done differently. I personally feel for them and having spoken to some members of RAGE being apart of them for so long it broke my heart to hear they have been hit so hard and to hear the anger and confusion in their voices.

 

In the end all we ask is that if this is a vision of things to come, then let it be consistently applied to all who break the rules. Even ones as small of this.

 

 

Clan ..

• Alt clan leader.
• Alt clan leader, inactive / not playing battles.
• Clan not active in clanwars.
• Clan places chips in the clanwars event, and doesn't turn up.

 

Its pretty simple, the clan gets nuked.. (Alt clan leader parma'ed, officers demoted to members)

No players except the alt clanleader was banned.

No players in the three clans, were disqualified from CW event rewards.

 

Pretty lightly hit really. compared to what could have been issued in a severe sanction. 

 

Regards
Tan

[Tanitha]

rasco4000, on 13 September 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

 

yes but not turning up has a auto system that will hand out penalty's with out having to report it. It is also VISIBLE which is something this all lacks 

 

This handles real clans that are playing clanwars.. For sure.

However, clans with inactive alt clan leaders, who aren't playing clanwars, attacking in a clanwars event and not turning up.... Results in sanctions manually being placed..
Something like .. the clan being nuked. Depending on all the circumstances.

 

 

Or to be more simple.. Its safe to stick to ...
Real players, Real clans, Real battles..

 

Regards
Tan

[Fury_17_jais]

seriously u guys did a good job wargaming for giving dem awards regardless they are cheating in clan war now I will tell each member of my clan not to purchase nythng frm wargaming because they are fraud