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[Wilhelm_Griswold]

I play mostly German tanks.

The German tree is becoming seriously under-equipped to deal with other nations which have been added or developed.

 

The Germans needs a significant buff or I'll be leaving the game for good.

 

The famous 88mm gun is really underwhelming. Especially when you consider it's supposed to be a tier 8 gun. It only does about 200 damage. That's about 7-8 penetrations required to defeat your average tier 8 heavy tank. And it has a very hard time penetrating frontal armor on even American mediums.

Why is it that American mediums have better frontal armor than German heavies?

 

German frontal armor is just pathetic even at top tier. And lets not get started on turret armor.

 

Are there any buffs for the German nation in the planning stages? Or is it Wargaming's intention that the German tree stagnates further and drives away customers.?

 

It is clear that with each new nation added to the game, the envelope is being pushed with respect to vehicle stats yet the German tree just sits still.

 

Somebody at Wargaming please wake up!

[SanyaVladimirovnaLitvyak]

http://worldoftanks.asia/en/news/21/whats-in-store-wot/

[Politx_killer]

When did german tank production stop compared to the rest of the nations? Germany stopped devolpment 1945 so they have outdated technology vs the rest.

[JOC469]

Today we mourn the loss of another 45%er. He proved himself a useful target upon which many XP was farmed.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

Politx_killer, on 23 January 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

When did german tank production stop compared to the rest of the nations? Germany stopped devolpment 1945 so they have outdated technology vs the rest.

 

If you're going to use that excuse then just bump practically every tank in the German tree down a tier.

That would only be fare.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

JOC469, on 23 January 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

Today we mourn the loss of another 45%er. He proved himself a useful target upon which many XP was farmed.

 

Match making determines win rating and to a lesser extent how much you platoon up with clan mates

Not player skill.

 

But that isn't the point of this thread.

[Redacted].

 

General insults. Warning issued.

 

>Bas_Dearg

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:37 PM.

[MagicalFlyingFox]

Wilhelm_Griswold, on 23 January 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

Match making determines win rating and to a lesser extent how much you platoon up with clan mates

Not player skill.

 

But that isn't the point of this thread.

[Redacted]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:37 PM.
Quote updated

[ChieftaiNZ]

The famous 88 on the Tiger didn't see combat against IS-3's, T32's  etc etc

[KitagouFumika]

Yes I do agree that the "iconic" german tanks (Tiger, Panther et al) should be bumped down a tier but WG in all their money-making wisdom, decided not to. They released premium tank versions in the correct tier instead.

 

So there's that.

 

The E100 still sees use in organized play. Maus will see a split line and buffs last I heard. https://ritastatusre...he-german-tree/

 

E50M is still good. You will either love or hate the Grille 15 apparently. These is what I get from reading forums because obviously, one plays the soviet line for the really OP tanks. I really don't think anybody cares much beyond Tier 10 and 8.

 

But hey you could do an angry rant with no research too I guess?

 

Edited by KitagouFumika, 23 January 2017 - 07:10 PM.

[iDd_Sloth]

Too much faith on the 8.8?

That gun is quite good on Tier 7 and competent on Tier 8.

That said, if you're trading 1 for 1 VS a Tier 8 tank then there's something wrong with how you're playing that Tier 7 HT.

Here, German armor is not for bouncing shots but taking "hits" with your HP.

Learn to conserve you HP and dominate mid to late game.

Early brawling is not really good for Tiger I unless you're top tier then again it's situational.

[pokeranger24]

Hope for the Sandbox gives better armour and damage

[Profanisaurus]

MagicalFlyingFox, on 23 January 2017 - 07:29 AM, said:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

 

On point Foxey.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

Profanisaurus, on 24 January 2017 - 04:36 AM, said:

 

On point Foxey.

 

[Redacted].

 

General insults. Warning already issued.

 

>Bas_Dearg

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:38 PM.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

Cant stress how much of an aweful time I'm having with the Jagdpanther at the moment.

Another German vehicle in serious need of buffing.

Frontal armor is practically useless.

[Profanisaurus]

If you are trying to play it as an assault gun that could be the problem.  It is mobile and sneaky, has good alpha and good accuracy but it has no armour.  Remember you are now running into tier 9s who will easily two shot you if you are spotted.

 

Do you have the vision circles turned on on your mini map? 

Are you using those to manage your range of engagement to try and avoid being spotted?

 

If you are using the 105 (and you should be after 150 plus battles in it) you are not even managing two shots of damage a game.  That's not enough to influence a battle.  Try and manage the range of engagement instead of trying to lead the line it's hard on quite a few maps but it can be done. 

 

Remember it's not a 122-44.

Edited by Profanisaurus, 24 January 2017 - 06:27 AM.

[_A_M_G_]

Wilhelm_Griswold, on 24 January 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

 

[Redacted]

 

Please Wilhelm, I am sure you are a top bloke but if you think a skill based, team game's outcome is not determined by player skill I think you need to reconsider who has the small mind. I believe match maker (based off the interpretation of the patent) is designed to push you up to 50% with easier games or provide you harder games if you have a winrate over 50%. I guess even matchmaker can't fix some people.

 

Within this one thread you have told someone they have a small mind and called someone else a numb skull.

 

You are going to do well on these forums.

 

Also the German tree is getting a rework this year. I guess google is hard.

 

 

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:39 PM.
Quote updated

[Profanisaurus]

I chose to let than one go and be helpful.  There is a statute of limitations on this though.

[_A_M_G_]

Profanisaurus, on 24 January 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

I chose to let than one go and be helpful.  There is a statute of limitations on this though.

 

I did notice that.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

iDd_Sloth, on 23 January 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Too much faith on the 8.8?

That gun is quite good on Tier 7 and competent on Tier 8.

That said, if you're trading 1 for 1 VS a Tier 8 tank then there's something wrong with how you're playing that Tier 7 HT.

Here, German armor is not for bouncing shots but taking "hits" with your HP.

Learn to conserve you HP and dominate mid to late game.

Early brawling is not really good for Tiger I unless you're top tier then again it's situational.

 

[Redacted]

 

BRB, losing 9/10 matches for that one game where having a lot of HP at the end makes a difference.

 

General insults. Warning already issued.

 

>Bas_Dearg

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:40 PM.

[Wilhelm_Griswold]

_A_M_G_, on 24 January 2017 - 06:51 AM, said:

 

Please Wilhelm, I am sure you are a top bloke but if you think a skill based, team game's outcome is not determined by player skill I think you need to reconsider who has the small mind. I believe match maker (based off the interpretation of the patent) is designed to push you up to 50% with easier games or provide you harder games if you have a winrate over 50%. I guess even matchmaker can't fix some people.

 

Within this one thread you have told someone they have a small mind and called someone else a numb skull.

 

You are going to do well on these forums.

 

Also the German tree is getting a rework this year. I guess google is hard.

 

 

 

[Redacted]

 

General insults. Warning already issued.

 

>Bas_Dearg

Edited by Bas_Dearg, 24 January 2017 - 12:42 PM.