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Furious007 #21 Posted 04 February 2017 - 11:53 PM

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WG needs to buff the top gun (10,5cm Kw.K. L/52) penetration  for the VK 45.02A from 200 avg to 225 avg to match up with the Tiger II, and IS3 etc. As it stands now its hands down the worst Tier 8 Heavy Tank to grind through, while the mobility is decent / on par with the IS3 and Tiger II, it falls behind in dpm against all other T8 HTs.

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VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A
 
  • Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
    • Changed the elevation and depression angles of all guns for both turrets from +17..-6 to +15…-8
    • Changed thickness of the upper glacis plate from 120 mm to 150 mm
    • Changed thickness of the lower glacis plate from 120 mm to 100 mm

 

 

its not a buff to DPM, but the armor is now as good as the Tiger II and has far better gun depression then it as well


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Furious007 #23 Posted 05 February 2017 - 12:16 AM

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View PostDeadArashi, on 04 February 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A
 
  • Changed penetration of the Pzgr 40 shell for the 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56 gun from 171 mm to 194 mm
    • Changed the elevation and depression angles of all guns for both turrets from +17..-6 to +15…-8
    • Changed thickness of the upper glacis plate from 120 mm to 150 mm
    • Changed thickness of the lower glacis plate from 120 mm to 100 mm

 

 

its not a buff to DPM, but the armor is now as good as the Tiger II and has far better gun depression then it as well

 

No it's the same as the Tiger II now with the -8+15 gun depression.Also the Tiger II dispersion (0.34) is a lot better then the VK (0.37) as well. Tigers II gun handling is a lot better then the VK. I just finished the grind in the VK 45.02A and i have the VK 45.02B now and for a T8 tank the gun is really garbage. You have a real tough time in a T8 game let alone a T9 /T10 game.

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I did always play it more of a heavy medium to moderate success. But like the Tiger II it should be at tier 7 at most

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 04 February 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

 

Foxy, as a superheavy main I think the Type 5 needs more pen. Angling's only good until some muppet hits 2 or decides to yolo in his tier 10 MBT Medium. The Type has next to nothing going for it and I should know, I marked it. The standard gun is anemic and the derp will only allow it to say 'F*** you a bit better before it inevitably dies to some damage farmer 500 meters away or a yoloing medium.

 

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View PostShockwave117, on 05 February 2017 - 08:15 AM, said:

 

Foxy, as a superheavy main I think the Type 5 needs more pen. Angling's only good until some muppet hits 2 or decides to yolo in his tier 10 MBT Medium. The Type has next to nothing going for it and I should know, I marked it. The standard gun is anemic and the derp will only allow it to say 'F*** you a bit better before it inevitably dies to some damage farmer 500 meters away or a yoloing medium.

 

lol I'm talking about other tanks angling against it. Its useless to because it brings a stupid derp gun to the battlefield negating any attempts at angling. 

 

Type 5 certainly does not need more HE pen. 


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The derp guns for the Type 4/5 Heavies are stupid. The gold rounds are stupid. They are just better in every way.

Maybe they should've just buffed the non derp cannons and removed the derp guns because they are all stupid throughout the entire line.

Some other things from the CT I noticed.

  • ​Pz 58 Mutz and VK45.03 are both available for purchases in-game.
  • E-50/E-50M HD models now have 8 degrees gun depression everywhere.
  • E-50M actually lost a bit of armour since the new HD model makes the tank taller and shorter, so the UFP is less angled and weaker,not by much however. Gun depression buff more than makes up for it (And they look great in HD)

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Rhogath #28 Posted 05 February 2017 - 07:53 AM

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Ok well, while the 15 cm/50 41st Year Type they are testing never historically loaded AP rounds... the 15 cm/45 41st Year Type did load AP. The only major differences worth noting at: the bore length of the 15cm/45 is 0.63m shorter then the 15cm/50 and also has a 25m/s slower muzzel velocity. Could be something for them to look at; 750 dmg AP and 950 dmg HE as per the standard for guns of that caliber

 

Or just strap the Type 89 15cm fortress gun onto it that fired APHE and HE :D


Edited by DeadArashi, 05 February 2017 - 07:58 AM.


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the T110E5 is still op, although it lost some of its armour, it still can bounce many gold ammo that played in the test server. the T95 is now more "playable" with its new traverse and speed

 

 


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With the new gun for the Type 4/5 Heavy ...

"Just shoot under the enemy tanks for good damage roll, not the tank but the ground"


When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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They dont need to buff the actual thickness if they going to do it. Adding tracks link, logs, anything that increase effective armor will do.

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Hey all

 

Looking for some information about they Type 5 and the new gun it gets and VK 7 for existing owners of the E100 and Maus

 

On the Test server you needed 66,000 XP to research it so question is when this patch is implemented current Type 5 Owners will need to do some grinding to get it ??? Is it worth grinding some XP out now so when patch comes in you can research and buy ? Can anyone confirm what happens with this or send me somewhere where it talks about this ? I had one game on the Test Server and I like the changes. The first thing I noticed was the acceleration and it was a bit more manouverable.

 

The other question is regarding to existing owners of the E100 and the Maus and what they need to do to get their hands on the VK 7. On the test server it was like 196,000 XP to research from the VK 4205B. Does that mean players need to buy it back and grind the VK4502B again ? I have a friend that is furiously grinding the VK4502B to get and buy the Maus. Will this patch mean he will need to grind it again to get the VK 7 ? If you have the VK4502B is it worth grinding the XP again so to unlock the VK 7when patch comes out ? I do like the fact that they have differentiated the VK7 and CW VK by the size of the gun they get. I heard that the difference was only going to be by special camo which i was not a fan of.

 

 

 



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Most likely you will need to grind out for the 15cm gun so I would start accumulating XP now (selff-speculation based on the test server)

 

In the case of the VK7... If you hav the VK45.02 B then that XP you have on it will be put towards the VK7. You will also have the stock Mauschen available for purchase, same situation with the VKa and the VK100,01.


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View PostDeadArashi, on 07 February 2017 - 05:43 AM, said:

Most likely you will need to grind out for the 15cm gun so I would start accumulating XP now (selff-speculation based on the test server)

 

In the case of the VK7... If you hav the VK45.02 B then that XP you have on it will be put towards the VK7. You will also have the stock Mauschen available for purchase, same situation with the VKa and the VK100,01.

 

My thoughts as well re: 15cm gun but wish to confirm b4 i grind 66,000 XP that could have gone to the crew skills !

 

I heard that you needed to have researched and purchased the Maus to get the T8 an T9 unlocked/stock tanks you refer too. Is that the case or you dont have to have Maus purchased ?

 

When I researched the Maus and bought it the VK4502B was not on the same line. I went back and bought it put a crew in it and sent all the XP to crew training. So what you are saying i need to grind the XP (I think it was 196500 or so ) to get the VK 7 with it ? So someone who is trying to grind the Maus atm like my friend will have to grind it again for the VK7 ?


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With the Type 5 you had to unlock the 15cm on the test server. It wasnt already unnlocked. I have the Type 5 on live server and had to unlock, hence why im certain that you need to unlock.

 

Ok, so say you have 100k exp on the vkb, if you do not unlock the Maus then that exp will stay on the VKb towards the VK7 and you will have to start grinding fresh from 0 on the Mauschen towards the Maus.

 

I'm honestly not sure whether or not owning the VKa will unlock VK100 and VKb for the Mauschen, it seems logical to think this as thats how it worked in the past whenn tanks were moved to other lines and new tanks introduced. 



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View PostDeadArashi, on 07 February 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

With the Type 5 you had to unlock the 15cm on the test server. It wasnt already unnlocked. I have the Type 5 on live server and had to unlock, hence why im certain that you need to unlock.

 

Ok, so say you have 100k exp on the vkb, if you do not unlock the Maus then that exp will stay on the VKb towards the VK7 and you will have to start grinding fresh from 0 on the Mauschen towards the Maus.

 

I'm honestly not sure whether or not owning the VKa will unlock VK100 and VKb for the Mauschen, it seems logical to think this as thats how it worked in the past whenn tanks were moved to other lines and new tanks introduced. 

 

I already own the Maus and the E100. To get the VK7 would i need to grind from the VK4502B ? If i dont have it buy it back and start grinding ?

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Changed technical characteristics of the obj.268 


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best thing about the test server for sea players as it takes away a lot of the really good players from the normal server allowing for the not so good players to have some fun and actually do damage and kill stuff on the normal server .. 

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Tier 10 derp gun is gonna be the best thing I'm gonna come across. Why do you even mind about it? Isn't there already 'skill-less' vehicle called 'arty' AKA 'clicker' bombing your roof already? So why do you even mind flat trajectory arty? Beside, there must be diversity or it will be pointless to play Japanese heavy just to get barn-sized version of VK7201 that trade pen for a little more alpha. But I do agree that prem HE shell is kinda stupid.

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