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anonym_Gw7wT386Zhed #1 Posted 09 June 2017 - 06:54 AM

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So I am relatively new to gaming and WoT (I'm not an avid gamer).  I'm not overly skilled and enjoy playing in all tiers (1 through 8 thus far) but I seem to have been targeted by a user who simply repeats the same comment over and over again (for a few days now) telling me I am ******* useless and go back to ******* Tier 1 where I belong.  Is there a way I can simply turn off chat?


 

Also, I have come across users who just drive their tanks into your path to block you and they just keep doing it over and over again no matter what you try to do or where you want to go.  Is there anything I can do about it?  Self existing the game or destroying this user seems to not be viable options!


 

One final one.  I have noted on a few occasions when I am firing from cover a team member (usually in a bigger or higher tier tank) gets in behind me and pushes me out of cover and in the line of fire.  As lower tier tanks are we just fodder for the higher tier tanks?  If that is the expectation then I am more than happy to jump out into the open for spotting duty.


 

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Ezz #2 Posted 09 June 2017 - 07:04 AM

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There's an option to turn off chat. It's not really advised as there tends to be some valuable team coordination and advice that is directed via this channel.

 

And as to your tiers, the general advice to those looking to do well in the game and not be a detriment to their team would be to stay at a tier until they can maintain at least a 50% win rate. Those extend out of their depth quickly get found out to both their team's suffering and theirs.


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anonym_Gw7wT386Zhed #3 Posted 09 June 2017 - 07:16 AM

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But the win rate is a team win rate isn't it? How on earth do I control/influence the team win rate?  In those battles where I am 2 Tiers below the top tanks I have little/no chance. More often than not I am targeted as the lower tier tanks (easier kill) and on many occasions hit by several shots simultatiously when I am moving as part of a 'pack' of tanks.  As a medium or light tank I have no chance against a medium or heavier tank/destroyer 2 tiers above me and you can't tell what you are going up against until you are face to face with them and your shells start bouncing!

 

I don't want to sound like a whinger so if I am missing something basic/obvious please let me know - always happy to learn form the more experienced.



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You can block the person who is trolling you. Problem solved.

 

As to players blocking you and/or pushing you out: welcome to World of AssHats. There is a percentage of the player base who, through their sheer stupidity or just plain asshattedness, want to ruin the game for others.

 

My only advice is to ignore them. If they are blocking you, stop moving or responding and they generally get bored and move on. If they are pushing you out of cover, try to move away as best you can.


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View Postdhi67540, on 09 June 2017 - 09:16 AM, said:

But the win rate is a team win rate isn't it? How on earth do I control/influence the team win rate?

 

I think what Ezz is politely saying is to stay in the low tiers and learn the game and not move into the higher tiers until your win rate is 50%.

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anonym_Gw7wT386Zhed #6 Posted 09 June 2017 - 07:34 AM

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Yeah I get that but I am just 1 of 15 players in the team.  How do I improve my win rate if the other players in the team are a bunch of individuals?

Ezz #7 Posted 09 June 2017 - 07:39 AM

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Suffice to say it won't be easy. The game has many nuances that you can learn to use, everything from the basics of angling, weakspots and aiming to the vision mechanic etc.. These will allow you to differentiate yourself from other players. If you learn and can execute these skills better than others, you'll see your stats start to rise. It isn't a flick a switch sort of learning curve, and for many it will take thousands of battles.

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anonym_Gw7wT386Zhed #8 Posted 09 June 2017 - 07:51 AM

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Well I am doing OK with my current Medium (49%-54%) tanks in Tiers 5-8 but I have been using my Light tanks as spotters (Dash out, spot and die) and interestingly the Win/Loss is pretty poor for these (I currently have 7 tanks).  I have also just switched from an Apple MacBook to an Alienware 17 so I can actually see more and have a bigger screen (though the mouse is way more responsive - will be a bit of a learning curve)  It would be handy if there were some training missions available for each Tank/Tier as each one takes a bit of getting used to.

 



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By the way, how do you block an individual?

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View Postdhi67540, on 09 June 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

I'm not overly skilled and enjoy playing in all tiers (1 through 8 thus far) but I seem to have been targeted by a user who simply repeats the same comment over and over again (for a few days now) telling me I am ******* useless and go back to ******* Tier 1 where I belong.  

 

Not usually what I say, but ,at we'll be paraphrasing. Was it me?

 

Feel free to post some replays, but maybe other players are confusing you for an AI player hence why they push you out of the way?


 

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joc469, the great purporter of  'name-changer' and 'clan-leaver' all hail the JOC469!


anonym_Gw7wT386Zhed #11 Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:11 AM

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No, not you :)  Replays?  I guess I still have a lot to learn!

JOC469 #12 Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:16 AM

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Low sample size, but you actually have a better win rate in spg and TD - both classes that you don't have to be 'active' in

 

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_Sammich_ #13 Posted 09 June 2017 - 08:26 AM

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It was probably me, I did sperg last night.

Particularly at a redline sniping Action X on mines last night, who was too afraid to push on a one shot Ferdi.
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View Postdhi67540, on 09 June 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Well I am doing OK with my current Medium (49%-54%) tanks in Tiers 5-8 but I have been using my Light tanks as spotters (Dash out, spot and die) and interestingly the Win/Loss is pretty poor for these

 

 

collective wisdom asserts that soviet medium tanks are your best path to reasonable performance whilst learning the game, russian bias and all that jazz

 

playing light tanks effectively in tiers 4 and above has a steep learning curve and 'suiscouting' is bad for you and the team, my advice would be as follows:

  1. get 6th sense (commander perk) as quickly as possible - it is a game changing skill for lights. be aware that this means grinding your crew at around tiers 2 - 4 before advancing to higher tiers...the practice here will pay off later in higher tiers
  2. learn about passive scouting: bush locations, vision/camo mechanics, when not to shoot. there are many videos on youtube that can help with this (4tankersanddog is a good start, he specialises in light tank play). do this right and it's not 'camping'
  3. camo, camo, camo: all your crew should get camo as their first skill, get a camo net and spend some silver on camo pain. light tanks should not be seen or heard
  4. vision control: get binocs to see further than the enemy and reduce the effectiveness of their camo; spot them for your team so they can do the damage and you don't get hurt (you get points for the dmg they do on your spots)
  5. stay alive in the early to mid game, bide your time until it's safer to come out and clean up etc in the end game - most likely your team will appreciate the vision control you provide when all that's left are blind tanks
  6. 100% crews: base skills should be at 90-100% to be most effective in all areas (camo, view range, radio range, mobility etc). if you race up the tiers your crew skills will suffer each time you upgrade to the next tank. slow it down a bit...develop your crew skills as well as your own
  7. check the minimap: situational awareness is key to knowing where the f@&$ to go and what to do. the more games you play the better you will be at this
  8. go back to base: everything ok on your flank? check to see if base is under threat and support it if necessary. check out claus kellerman's video about improving your winrate

 

if you do some or all of these things then you will make a positive contribution to your team, helping them to win games and thus improving your win rate

 

hope that helps



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I recommend you disable chat. Go to your settings, and you will see it under the general tab I think. "Disable in game chat" or something like that.

 

As people use mods with XVM (XVM is a large game modification and can enhance your experiences or not!) which shows a basic view in the form of a colour of a players (your team and the enemy teams) capabilities. As you are a new player you have the colour red. Now for some, they will think this is a reason to bully you 'in game' or in "the garage" (It's OK they were probably bullied in school!)

 

This is a team game but individual performance in my view has the largest impact on the game. If you hide at the back you are not supporting your team (unless it's in the late game but by then your front line players have probably been overrun) on the other hand spotting 2 tanks in the first minute and then dying, for example, is also not helping your team. Not saying you do this but they are some simple examples. I had a ~46% winrate when I was at 6k games or so but things changed when I starting watching streamers on Twitch. If you have not already I recommend watching and I hate to say this QuickyBaby as he is probably one of the best for new players. Try and reproduce the play style, use similar locations and trade well. Only when you start contributing in damage done (a good metric is - your average damage done should be at least the same as the hit points of your tank.) If you are not at least, for example, doing 1500 damage in your T34 B per game you are a liability to your team as someone else needs to make that up. This is a good 'starter for 10' in terms of a goal.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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View Post_Sammich_, on 09 June 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

It was probably me, I did sperg last night.

Particularly at a redline sniping Action X on mines last night, who was too afraid to push on a one shot Ferdi.

 

Yes, it was you!  Might I suggest it is more productive to tell people what they did wrong.

 

So what is "a redline sniping Action X on mines last night, who was too afraid to push on a one shot Ferdi"?  Note that I have no mods installed as I was, up until last night, running on a Apple MacBook.



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Thanks all - your advice and comments are most welcome and if you have more then please feel free to offer it. If you see me in the game - feel free to provide any and all advice and direction :)

_Sammich_ #18 Posted 09 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

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View Postdhi67540, on 09 June 2017 - 02:33 AM, said:

 

Yes, it was you!  Might I suggest it is more productive to tell people what they did wrong.

 

So what is "a redline sniping Action X on mines last night, who was too afraid to push on a one shot Ferdi"?  Note that I have no mods installed as I was, up until last night, running on a Apple MacBook.

I thought that your IGN was vaguely famiar - My bad sorry.

 

I do get frustrated when people tend to go into tiers in which they are not ready.  As the others have said, look at YouTube, read the wiki to get an understanding of the camouflage mechanics, learn weak spots etc.

 

The most important thing however is situational awareness, read the minimap and try to  understand and anticipate the flow of the battle and you'll do better. Understanding when to help push and when to fall back is what the best players excel at.

 

In regards to the Action X comment, that was directed at JOC and a game I had with him where this occurred.

 

Anyway, sorry about the rant. :)


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View Post_Sammich_, on 09 June 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

I thought that your IGN was vaguely famiar - My bad sorry.

 

I do get frustrated when people tend to go into tiers in which they are not ready.  As the others have said, look at YouTube, read the wiki to get an understanding of the camouflage mechanics, learn weak spots etc.

 

The most important thing however is situational awareness, read the minimap and try to  understand and anticipate the flow of the battle and you'll do better. Understanding when to help push and when to fall back is what the best players excel at.

 

In regards to the Action X comment, that was directed at JOC and a game I had with him where this occurred.

 

Anyway, sorry about the rant. :)

 

_Sammich_, I assume you are number 3? :girl:

 


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If you play light tanks as a spotter and die, you're doing it wrong.

 

You can't keep things spotted for your team when you are a smoking wreck, nor can you expect to contribute to a game, hence the win rates are low.


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.





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