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HazE124 #1 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:05 PM

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200 APCR Pen can't even go through a Defender's lower plate (Probably the most irritating thing in the game rn), a Vk 100.01P's (Or whatever that crazy german tier 8 heavy is called) turret side or ANYWHERE on the Nameless's front. Granted this is a very biased suggestion, but I still stand by my point that with all these crazy, power creep, impenetrable, no-weak-spot premium heavies coming into the game, other tier 8's with low pen really are suffering and i just happen to own the M4 Rev. which is why i'm asking. 

 

Plus 250 HEAT pen!? ._.

 


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Gani_GANz #2 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:13 PM

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you should see IS-6

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HazE124 #3 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:25 PM

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View PostG_A_N_I, on 26 June 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

you should see IS-6

 

I see it bouncing all my shots lol
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iDd_Sloth #4 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:40 PM

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When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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I'm talking about its 175mm standard pen and 217mm gold pen. not the armor...
the armor is somewhat old and outdated tho...

Edited by G_A_N_I, 25 June 2017 - 11:42 PM.

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IS-6 armor is good.

 

252 U armor is gooder.


 

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And APCR loses alot of pen if you're shooting from a distance.

It suffers from poor normalization when compared to an AP round and a suffers from greater pen drop off.


Edited by iDd_Sloth, 26 June 2017 - 12:13 AM.

When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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I still remember back in the day when 200 penetration was the norm for tier 8 premium tanks.

 

Now the standard 230 penetration often isn't even enough to penetrate other tier 8 tanks.

 

Look at what this game has become...



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No Luv for Panther 8.8??

 

Fair enough, the AP Pen is 203 but APCR pen of 237?! (Eww)...


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44-100 / 54 mod are first in line for pen buff. All you tanks with 190+ standard can just be patient.

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View PostHazE124, on 26 June 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

ANYWHERE on the Nameless's front.

 

As far as I'm aware, lower plate is auto pen by any gun above tier 5 right? It's paper


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View PostWeslam, on 25 June 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

I still remember back in the day when 200 penetration was the norm for tier 8 premium tanks.

 

Now the standard 230 penetration often isn't even enough to penetrate other tier 8 tanks.

 

Look at what this game has become...

The Pershing and T-44 had something like 170 originally. 

 

The Centurion and Indien with 200+ were considered good.

 

Nowadays tier 8 meds can't even pen same tier heavies with gold...


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View PostEzz, on 26 June 2017 - 06:07 AM, said:

44-100 / 54 mod are first in line for pen buff. All you tanks with 190+ standard can just be patient.

IS-6?


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Yep, not even a weakspot that can be penned with gold. Type 4 heavy, driving straight down the middle of sacred valley, killing me, T43, SU-152, a batchat, and some other sicker. APCR needed just to pen his SIDE. 

 

Sure, he is two tiers higher, but damn, why am I in the match-up if there is nothing I can do to stop him. Couldn't even track him.


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View PostG_A_N_I, on 26 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

IS-6?

 

Give the 44-100 and 54 mod pref and we'll see. ;)

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View PostBuck3t, on 26 June 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

As far as I'm aware, lower plate is auto pen by any gun above tier 5 right? It's paper

 

Nope, It's about 190 unangled, a lot like the maus in that respect. Angled it's impenetrable, not angled it's still a 50/50.
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View Post0__lol__0, on 26 June 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

Yep, not even a weakspot that can be penned with gold. Type 4 heavy, driving straight down the middle of sacred valley, killing me, T43, SU-152, a batchat, and some other sicker. APCR needed just to pen his SIDE.

 

Sure, he is two tiers higher, but damn, why am I in the match-up if there is nothing I can do to stop him. Couldn't even track him.

 

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