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Volkerman #1 Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:46 PM

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Hey folks!
So i've been strolling around the forums for a while, and i've been looking at clan recruitment which says something about CW/SH worthy tanks in tier 6/8/10. While i'm quite aware that Cromwell/T37/Type 64/situationally Skoda T25 and Defender/IS-3/T32/ChrysGF are the staple of CW/SH tanks for tier 6 and 8 respectively, i have quite a loose definition regarding the definition of CW/SH worthy tanks since i tend to follow the norm for CW/SH worthy tanks without really understanding the specification of a good CW/SH worthy tanks. I haven't reached tier 10 yet, so i have 0 opinion about this tier.

So folks, what do you think are the specifications for a CW/SH tanks?
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View PostVolkerman, on 17 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Hey folks!
So i've been strolling around the forums for a while, and i've been looking at clan recruitment which says something about CW/SH worthy tanks in tier 6/8/10. While i'm quite aware that Cromwell/T37/Type 64/situationally Skoda T25 and Defender/IS-3/T32/ChrysGF are the staple of CW/SH tanks for tier 6 and 8 respectively, i have quite a loose definition regarding the definition of CW/SH worthy tanks since i tend to follow the norm for CW/SH worthy tanks without really understanding the specification of a good CW/SH worthy tanks. I haven't reached tier 10 yet, so i have 0 opinion about this tier.

So folks, what do you think are the specifications for a CW/SH tanks?
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uhh... yes... almost the same question here...

can the 85M(tier6) and T25P(tier8) considered good for SH/CWs?

also, can the CrommyB play as active scout? I am about to the replace gun rammer for optics but still not sure if it suitable for LT loadout and playstyle due to its terrible gun stability and can't mount stabilizer. I'll leave the cqc and damage dealing business to 85M due to its better armor, no longer CrommyB. the question remains the same, is it worth to do? and is it suitable for the role I've mentioned?

 

the upcoming T44Ltw. seems worth to be mentioned for tier8 SH/CW.

 

about the tier 10 suggestion. pick some suggested by AKASHA. :great:

I might add AMX50B, T57 and STB1


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Volkerman #4 Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:23 PM

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I find the Bromwell good as a flanker where no one is shooting at you, first few mins i play my Cromwell as a light tank, then sniping at mid match, then pick everyone else when the match's going to finish.

T44 ltwt? with 170mm pen? No, please no.

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View PostG_A_N_I, on 17 July 2017 - 11:33 PM, said:

can the 85M(tier6) and T25P(tier8) considered good for SH/CWs?

 

also, can the CrommyB play as active scout? I am about to the replace gun rammer for optics but still not sure if it suitable for LT loadout and playstyle due to its terrible gun stability and can't mount stabilizer. I'll leave the cqc and damage dealing business to 85M due to its better armor, no longer CrommyB. the question remains the same, is it worth to do? and is it suitable for the role I've mentioned?

 

the upcoming T44Ltw. seems worth to be mentioned for tier8 SH/CW.

 

about the tier 10 suggestion. pick some suggested by AKASHA. :great:

I might add AMX50B, T57 and STB1

 

No.

 

You'd use a type 64 if you wanted a dedicated scout, rammer, vents and optics is what you should be using regardless though because the gld completely sucks and optics is always useful to have, armour not relevant in t6 cw.

 

Unlikely.

 

I doubt an STB would be used very much at all.



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View Post_Storm, on 17 July 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

 

No.

 

You'd use a type 64 if you wanted a dedicated scout, rammer, vents and optics is what you should be using regardless though because the gld completely sucks and optics is always useful to have, armour not relevant in t6 cw.

 

Unlikely.

 

I doubt an STB would be used very much at all.

 

why is T25P can't be taken into account? gun stability, good. accuracy and aim time, decent. armor, pretty much like the other T8 meds (except SuperPershing, Type59, Ob.416 not gonna mention french meds obviously).  pen, moderate value. dpm, quite high. overall mobility, comparable to other meds. I feel that the acceleration and lack of front armor are the drawback. I see it based on my experience playing it, I feel comfortable and do pretty good in it.

 

 

I guess I should try Type64 for T6 scout. btw, it can't mount vents due to its open-roof turret, right?

 

 

I'm just guessing about the T44Ltw. due to its crucial role for an organized battle which could contribute view range, camo and mobility.

and yeah... after seeing and considering stats, it seems unlikely

 

 

I'm seeing STB's performance based on the performance in randoms. but yeah, organized battle ain't random battle.


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1. T25P isnt quite a meta for CWSH, when all you see are heavy tanks with an occasional amount of meds and lights. I watch streams you know.

Also its gun velocity limits the ability to do a CQC, tried it.

2. It cant mount vent thanks to open turret, yes, but you can mount optic and outspot everyone else.

3. T44 ltwt has like, 170 pen, single shot gun. Im not sure about the vr but i would take a Bulldog or the Chinese T8 lt instead of that thing if i want to.


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View PostG_A_N_I, on 18 July 2017 - 02:21 AM, said:

pretty much like the other T8 meds

 

That's exactly the issue, t8 meds almost universally suck and offer nothing other tier 8s can't do better. Even years ago before tier 8 got powercreeped by premium heavies only the pershing ever saw any use, and that was very situational.



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Waiting for OP premium MT to be released

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View PostBluefunk, on 17 July 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

Waiting for OP premium MT to be released

 

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By OP I mean Defender

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View PostVolkerman, on 17 July 2017 - 11:29 PM, said:

1. T25P isnt quite a meta for CWSH, Also its gun velocity limits the ability to do a CQC, tried it.

 

 

did you mean shell velocity?

 

T25P isn't suitable for CQC though, even in pubs. I play mostly like mid-range support. I rush into a CQC situationally.


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By chance, is the T44 a CW worthy tank? Also why do i see a lot of heavy tanks being used as metas in CW rosters?


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View PostVolkerman, on 18 July 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

By chance, is the T44 a CW worthy tank? Also why do i see a lot of heavy tanks being used as metas in CW rosters?

 

nope, cw or sh need op tank not normal, before is3 conquered the entire cw tier 8, with defender now is3 is obsolete 

E100 was best for ht cw, now you only see maus

140 was best med tank for cw at that time, now is 907 


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@Volkerman....t44ltwt indeed has 170 AP pen....but who fires std ammo in CW? Since its compeditor the wz-132 has 235 with its gold(t44ltwt 210)...WAY less amour(treble overmatch issues) and WAYYY less camo rating...I'd say the t44ltwt will be the new scout of choice in Tier8 if released with its stats as per supertest....and they will probably buff the gun too...


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IS-3 is still better than the defender.

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If I'd add my 2c, I'd say it really depends on your clan that you join and what strats they'll play. For TIM, we'll use patriots as a staple for certain maps and strats with mostly is-3s forming the bulk of the force and at tier 10, we do use the occasional stb-1.

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