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9.20.1 - Meet the new Tier X British HT that replaces the FV215b, the Super Conqueror


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wasaabi #41 Posted 13 September 2017 - 07:41 PM

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View PostLupisVolk, on 13 September 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

Again what's so special about China that they get access to two tier 10 heavy tanks? Why can't the British line also get that option?

 

Because the China server is not run by WG, so they make their own decisions on what goes into the game.

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View Postwasaabi, on 13 September 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

Because the China server is not run by WG, so they make their own decisions on what goes into the game.

Lulz, he was on about about WZ something A and 113, it was on every serv, not China exclusive.


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the one i need I already got brilliant, excited to try out the new one as I enjoy the 215b the ability to keep it is great. No time for the whingers on this thread

 


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Correct me if im mistaken but upon closer inspection, that at no point in any statement did they say that you will get to keep the FV215b. They simply said it will be converted to a reward tank but did not explicitly state that it will get the same treatment as the Foch. The playerbase simply assumed so as of now.

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View PostU12D13, on 14 September 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

Correct me if im mistaken but upon closer inspection, that at no point in any statement did they say that you will get to keep the FV215b. They simply said it will be converted to a reward tank but did not explicitly state that it will get the same treatment as the Foch. The playerbase simply assumed so as of now.

 

No, they couldn't, could they??

 

I mean if they allowed owners of the FOCH 155 to KEEP the original 155 AND receive the new FOCH B , then surely they MUST do the same for those patient FV215B owners??

 

Almost every player who owns one is either a dedicated British tanks fan or were hopeful for the change to the Chieftan at some point in the future. right?

 

I agree with the wording, it doesn't actually state that they will get to keep the FV215b, but I didn't see the wording for the F155 -> Foch B swap either so I can't compare it..

 

Boy oh boy, even if the decently buff the Briths Centurions, and upgrade the Conqueror (Tier 9) and drop in the Conqueror (super) at tier X IF they remove my FV215b I will be considerably upset..

 

Yeah I haven't played many games in it, simply because I am crap wit it and it isn't a good Tier X heavy (it needs to be played differently, can't really sidescrape and has in comparision very weak armor)  but still I used my time effort to grind it, just like those Foch 155 owners did, . so I am really hoping it will stay in my garage,

 

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View PostU12D13, on 14 September 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

Correct me if im mistaken but upon closer inspection, that at no point in any statement did they say that you will get to keep the FV215b. They simply said it will be converted to a reward tank but did not explicitly state that it will get the same treatment as the Foch. The playerbase simply assumed so as of now.

 

In that case Wargaming is asking for problem, since as now most people assumed they will get FV215B in their garage after being replaced with Super Conq.

 

Holding FV215B for FV4202 treatment will ensure that WG lost their business.



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View PostSir_British, on 14 September 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

No, they couldn't, could they??

Actually they can, based on the EULA that we agreed to every patch. 

 

I mean if they allowed owners of the FOCH 155 to KEEP the original 155 AND receive the new FOCH B , then surely they MUST do the same for those patient FV215B owners??

Depends on the moral compass WG has. 

 

I agree with the wording, it doesn't actually state that they will get to keep the FV215b, but I didn't see the wording for the F155 -> Foch B swap either so I can't compare it..

The FochB was announced officially in patch notes and release statements.

 

Boy oh boy, even if the decently buff the Briths Centurions, and upgrade the Conqueror (Tier 9) and drop in the Conqueror (super) at tier X IF they remove my FV215b I will be considerably upset..

They said its gonna stay, but question is how to obtain it/whether its given for free :v

 

not happy !

When are we ever? 

 


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Meanwhile all those waffle owners...

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View PostiDd_Sloth, on 13 September 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

 

There is a British HT trainer alright. It's an overtiered tank with no armor, no speed to speak of, it's turret is barely useable for hull down and to top it off it can't use it's somewhat fast reload for peek and shoot properly due to poor reverse. It's the forgotten FV201 (A45). Poor tank, almost no one ever remembers or even plays.

 

i still see afew playing it at least in my matches 

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View PostEzz, on 14 September 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

Meanwhile all those waffle owners...

 

Now, that's one tank that clearly needs to go.

It can potentially clip almost all T10 tanks just like the new Foch B albeit it has no turret but has somewhat workable armor.


When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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View PostEzz, on 14 September 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Meanwhile all those waffle owners...

 

the 155 was never game breaking :P

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View Postcamdy, on 14 September 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

the 155 was never game breaking 

So WG's policy is to give a free X to some people yet not others based on what mistakes WG had made. Seems legit.


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View PostEzz, on 14 September 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

So WG's policy is to give a free X to some people yet not others based on what mistakes WG had made. Seems legit.

 

and your trying to compare a game breaking tank to a non game breaking tank

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View Postcamdy, on 14 September 2017 - 01:03 PM, said:

 

i still see afew playing it at least in my matches 

 

Please,  the best trainer is the TOG. 


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View Postcamdy, on 14 September 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

and your trying to compare a game breaking tank to a non game breaking tank

*You're

 

And no, what is being compared is how WG handle these swaps.

 

In the case of the waffle WG screwed up the balance so replaced it while offering no compensation (not even a free skill reset).

In the case of the f155 WG had a non meta tank that they did not bother even trying to balance, replaced it with something that looks a lot more broken, and compensated any f155 owners with a free tier X.

Editing in another example... 4202 non meta tank that they did not bother trying to balance, replaced it with the CAX, compensated owners by giving a free tier X and changing 4202 to a tier 8 prem... then a fair while later are going to buff the crap out of it to make it arguably one of the best 8 meds. Because $$$.

 

Do you see the difference?


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Edited by iDd_Sloth, 14 September 2017 - 01:32 PM.

When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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View PostEzz, on 14 September 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

In the case of the f155 WG had a non meta tank that they did not bother even trying to balance, replaced it with something that looks a lot more broken, and compensated any f155 owners with a free tier X.
 

 

 

 

Not alot; but OBVIOUSLY broken.

edit:That interclip reload is just too fast.


Edited by iDd_Sloth, 14 September 2017 - 01:33 PM.

When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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View PostEzz, on 14 September 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

*You're

 

And no, what is being compared is how WG handle these swaps.

 

In the case of the waffle WG screwed up the balance so replaced it while offering no compensation (not even a free skill reset).

In the case of the f155 WG had a non meta tank that they did not bother even trying to balance, replaced it with something that looks a lot more broken, and compensated any f155 owners with a free tier X.

Editing in another example... 4202 non meta tank that they did not bother trying to balance, replaced it with the CAX, compensated owners by giving a free tier X and changing 4202 to a tier 8 prem... then a fair while later are going to buff the crap out of it to make it arguably one of the best 8 meds. Because $$$.

 

Do you see the difference?

 

well why didn't you say so in the first place instead of just referring to the tank it self:facepalm:

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WT100 could just be a single shooter reward tanks for former owner. It wont be gamebreaking tanks, maybe not even a good one, but they could be less jaded when Foch got a nice treatment.

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View Postcamdy, on 14 September 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

well why didn't you say so in the first place instead of just referring to the tank it self

I referred to the owners and then to how WG handled it.

 

The tank itself was broken as fruit. Few would disagree. But why should WG's mistake change how they compensate people?

 

People who ground all those tanks that were subsequently replaced aren't offered choices in the matter. They are simply told this is how we're handling it.

 

Oh and i should probably have noted that in the case of the 113 they decided for some reason that rather than replacing it, they'd just offer an alternate. Why couldn't they have done that for the f155 and 215b? It's not like either one of those are game breaking. Plus it would not highlight how stooged the WTE owners were.


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