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Otakubouzu #1 Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:38 AM

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...decided to re-bought AMX M4 Mle.45. Turns out i still have old crews that still on 90% to their first skills so i decided to use them. I expected some bad game since in his latest video, Circon complained about this tank.

 

And oh God, now i understand why i almost never see this tank in tier 7 match.

No armor, average mobility, nothing to write about its gun handling either... And for some reason arties seems like to aim on me first when i played it yesterday.

 

I only got 32K exp in this tank, probably will need 48-50K more exp for new tier 8 if it got same exp requirement with AMX 50 100. So if anyone got gameplay advice for this tank (beside free-exp that sh**), i would appreciate that.

 

 



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I better buy that thing back and start grinding I guess. Think I may have a couple of french heavy crews laying around from past events.


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The good news is tier 7 games should be all M4 45s for a while so the teams should be even.
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hate_pubbehs #4 Posted 14 November 2017 - 09:53 AM

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I use 105mm goldammo and it's one of my fav tanks in the game.

It becomes a bit like an IS with better gun handling.

If you aren't willing to do that, then there is no advice that will help you do well in this tank.

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1. Mount the 105.

2. Fire full apcr for that sweet 330 alpha

3. Bleed credits like a hemophiliac.

4. (No) Profit!!



spacewolf #6 Posted 14 November 2017 - 10:59 AM

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View Posthate_pubbehs, on 14 November 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

I use 105mm goldammo and it's one of my fav tanks in the game.

It becomes a bit like an IS with better gun handling.

If you aren't willing to do that, then there is no advice that will help you do well in this tank.

 

Noted, will run this.

 



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Yep agree Tim. I liked it so much I kept it to grind another crew as I wanted to keep the 50-100 and crew. The new crew went through to the tier 9. Now I need another crew. hmmmmm.

FramFramson #8 Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:27 AM

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Ground my M4 45 out ages ago (the 50 100 was my first ever T8 tank, lol).

 

Echoing the same advice everyone else gave - Use the 105 and use gold VERY liberally. I didn't load full gold, but I did run more than half gold and only used regular AP if I was top-tier or clowning on lower tier tanks. Most T8s and T9s will absolutely require that gold to have even a chance of penning.

 

I had a good time in it, surprisingly. Marked it and aced it during the grind with no plan to do so and it wasn't half so horrible for me as I'd been told.

 

Expensive, but cheaper then free-XPing it.

 

So, I'm currently researched up to the AMX 50 120 (never bought it - don't plan on getting French autoloading HTs past the 50 100). Does anyone know what that means for the other branch? If I've researched the 50 120, will I get the T9 "conventional" HT researched for free?


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Otakubouzu #9 Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:51 PM

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No other advice beside put 105 and load gold? 

Though I think I still will give it a try (and think best way to fund it).

 

 

 

 

 

 


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View PostOtakubouzu, on 14 November 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

No other advice beside put 105 and load gold? 

Though I think I still will give it a try (and think best way to fund it).

 

No other advice worth listening to.

 

its just a shitty Tiger if you don't use the 105mm APCR.


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View PostOtakubouzu, on 14 November 2017 - 04:51 AM, said:

No other advice beside put 105 and load gold? 

Though I think I still will give it a try (and think best way to fund it).

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah it and its tier 6 predecessor are unusual in that the alpha damage increases with the switch to premium ammo. I actually had a strange experience driving both those tanks in that I didn't like them much but did ok in them..



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Then again, WG has been rewarding credit boosters through the APAC missions, they should be handy enough.

I'll wait and see what the French HTs really have to offer. Then again, I am planning to fix some stats on the M4 45... so I may get it back soon.

Honestly, I found it ok to play with... and that is me, using the 90mm.


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FramFramson #13 Posted 14 November 2017 - 06:13 PM

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Yeah, I noticed that they've been REALLY lose with the credit boosters for this APAC thing after being incredibly tight-fisted with them in the past.

 

I wonder if they'll be giving them out more frequently in future or of this is a one-off experiment?


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At least it got an HP, depression, and all-around gun buffs since I played it.

 

Meta should be in favor of the M4 45 ever since; arty damage is halved, and the new sprem-everyone actually improves the M4 45 since it's been paper to begin with, and has one of the best sprem rounds in-game.


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View PostOtakubouzu, on 14 November 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

No other advice beside put 105 and load gold? 

Though I think I still will give it a try (and think best way to fund it).

 

It's a heavium; so don't try hold chokepoints against multiple enemies unless you are top dog.

 

As others have said the gun is really quite nice so engage choke points at range in the opening phase, then try work towards a flanking maneuver. You could also support medium pushes. You could even be nice and share your HP so others can make a flank.

 

The m45 can still hulldown and sidescrape so its no completely made of toilet paper. I enjoyed this tank far more than something like the tiger (P).......that tank gave me ulcers



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Meh, I currently prefer the 90mm with its higher pen and better accuracy.

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I also rebought this last night since I finished grinding the AMX50B ages ago.

And to my horror, it only has 1 deg gun depression on the side and all of it's back.

I can't even aim at the lower plate of that EMIL 1 due to this.

While you can argue that I shouldn't have shown my side but it was the opportunity that was presented.

He was reloading and the Black Prince that was with him was very occupied with something else.

The 90mm is a cheapskates gun, where it has adequate pen on everything that it can face with premium as a saving grace when needed + you can earn decently with it.

The 105mm on premium rounds is a good gun for T7-T8 but when it faces T9 it is nigh garbage, specially when you come face to face with the T9 Mauschen/Type 4 + it comes with a very HEFTY price.


Edited by iDd_Sloth, 16 November 2017 - 06:45 PM.

When an enemy Arty "one shots" 2 of your teams' heavies and you're in a heavy tank, you know you're screwed.

A heavy tank should have armor and a big gun, if you don't have either then you're not.


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Wait, it has crap side gun depression? WHUT?

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View Postmttspiii, on 15 November 2017 - 05:55 AM, said:

Wait, it has crap side gun depression? WHUT?

 

It only has gun dep directly to the front

 


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Just checked, and yep, it's -10° at the front, -1° at the sides and back.




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