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paloi #1 Posted 27 November 2017 - 01:14 AM

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Situation 1: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front turret

Situation 2: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front hull

Situation 3: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit side hull

Situation 4: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit rear hull

 

My question: Will the armor of M1A2 Abrams spall and injure the crew? Will situation 1 disable the armament? Which of these situation is the most lethal?

 



kl19442 #2 Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:44 PM

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Idk, ask The Chieftain, but what i do know is that

 

 

 

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kl19442 #3 Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:49 PM

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On a more serious note, refer to these links:

https://forums.space...-abrams.315866/

http://forum.worldof...n-tank/#topmost


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pokeranger24 #4 Posted 27 November 2017 - 05:55 PM

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Dont think so, many people while playing this game forget the fact that HE is an anti-infantry shell and Abrams has pretty tough armour while it is weaker in sides and rear dont forget the fact that Abrams has also got ERA armour so it can take couple of hits

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View Postpaloi, on 27 November 2017 - 02:44 AM, said:

Situation 1: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front turret

Situation 2: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front hull

Situation 3: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit side hull

Situation 4: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit rear hull

 

My question: Will the armor of M1A2 Abrams spall and injure the crew? Will situation 1 disable the armament? Which of these situation is the most lethal?

 

 

This hypothetical question calls for a hypothetical answer-

 

The most lethal situation is when Chuck Norris decides to put his fist through side of the cupola.


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Inglorious_Aussie_Tanker #6 Posted 28 November 2017 - 08:42 AM

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Well the KV2 would first have to be in a concealed position to first avoid detection.

Secondly the KV2 would need to be Loaded and Fulled aimed undetected by the Abrams.

Thirdly the KV2 would need to score a 1 shot kill on the Abrams, because he wouldn't get a second shot off before the office tower was blown from the hull.

Even if the KV2 scored a sucessful hit, the Abrams is Compartmentalised to reduce Damage, so unless you Pen the Turret and kill the crew, you will still be in trouble.

 

View PostAntifoulAwl, on 27 November 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

 

This hypothetical question calls for a hypothetical answer-

 

The most lethal situation is when Chuck Norris decides to put his fist through side of the cupola.

 

Chuck would win EVERY time........

But a good match up would be Chuck vs Putin.....


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View PostAntifoulAwl, on 27 November 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

This hypothetical question calls for a hypothetical answer-

 

The most lethal situation is when Chuck Norris decides to put his fist through side of the cupola.

Why would he need to hit the cupola?

 

Chuck Norris doesn't need to aim at weak spots.


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paloi #8 Posted 28 November 2017 - 12:54 PM

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View Postpokeranger24, on 27 November 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

Dont think so, many people while playing this game forget the fact that HE is an anti-infantry shell and Abrams has pretty tough armour while it is weaker in sides and rear dont forget the fact that Abrams has also got ERA armour so it can take couple of hits

 

But don't forget too, 152mm on the KV-2 is designed to destroy bunkers not infantry. Well maybe it could be used to do that but why put 152mm on the tank just to kill infantry? Smaller caliber gun could do the work. 

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View Postpaloi, on 27 November 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

Situation 1: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front turret

Situation 2: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit front hull

Situation 3: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit side hull

Situation 4: KV-2 fired High-Explosive shells towards M1A2 Abrams from 100 meter and hit rear hull

 

My question: Will the armor of M1A2 Abrams spall and injure the crew? Will situation 1 disable the armament? Which of these situation is the most lethal?

 

 

- High chance of crew injury, more likely from concussion though, less from spall.

- Situation 1 will definitely put a dent on the barrel at least. It will not completely shear off the turret (I hope), but the gun will receive enough damage that no one will want to use it.

- A definite mobility-kill if it hits the LFP.

- I'd actually bet that a rear hit would be more dangerous than a side hit, despite the rear hit being farther from the crew. Ammo and fuel are both stowed at the rear, and while the Abrams is designed to contain them with improved ammo storage and fire extinguishers, the HE shell might disable these systems. Of course, both hits are just as memorable to humans inside the tank since we'd be seeing concussive hemorrhage or asphyxia, but rear is deadlier for me.


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pokeranger24 #10 Posted 28 November 2017 - 09:30 PM

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View Postpaloi, on 28 November 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

 

But don't forget too, 152mm on the KV-2 is designed to destroy bunkers not infantry. Well maybe it could be used to do that but why put 152mm on the tank just to kill infantry? Smaller caliber gun could do the work. 

 

Pretty sure there is AP shells in the guns too... its just players in the game dont seems to fire them often 

 

and dont forget that KV 2 itself is very ineffective in combat, it was slow and could move its turret on level ground only and fire in the same, if not it had the tendency of overturning due to the recoil and the weight of the tank 


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