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Wilhelm_Griswold #1 Posted 07 December 2017 - 11:46 AM

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The vehicle has better frontal armor than most heavies it faces but for some reason it's also got very generous hitpoints.
There is claimed to be a justification for the armor thickness so WG should at least lower the hitpoints. It is after all only a medium tank.

When I am lucky enough to land a penetration it is usually only a token gesture as I need to land another 6 or so shots before the tank is knocked out.

I play mostly German vehicles so this is an issue which definitely affects German players, but it may affect other nations as well.
 


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A well rounded discussion. So were you thinking stiffening up the front suspension or softening the rear? I'm sure the devs will be right on this either way.

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Bahahah.  Spersh needs nerf.  Oh my aching sides.
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View PostProfanisaurus, on 07 December 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

Bahahah.  Spersh needs nerf.  Oh my aching sides.

 

Nerf? Ahh... sorry, i thought it was an oversteer issue. Nothing worse than when your rear end gets loose.

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Doesn't affect me when I'm fighting against it...

 

Are you sure you're shooting it at the right place?


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So let me get this straight.

 

A German Vehicle with high penetration and high accuracy can't hit the massive cupola, the machine gun on the hull, the armour holes in the gun mantlet, the cheeks of the turret, the sides of the tank if he over angles or the lower frontal plate if you're lucky.

Somehow I don't think it's the tank that's that's the problem...

 

Maybe you should be complaining about more OP premium tanks instead?

Skorpion G, Chrysler, Patriot and Defender all come to mind.


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View PostEzz, on 07 December 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

 

Nerf? Ahh... sorry, i thought it was an oversteer issue. Nothing worse than when your rear end gets loose.

 

Being mid-engined probably doesn't help the situation.

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If anything the T26E4 could do with a bit of a buff, the tank is just like the Tiger P, on paper it looks great but in practice the main advantage, being the armor, is absolutely riddled with weakspots that are too easily exploited. As Napalmer listed there are: Cupola, MG port, Mantlet holes, Turret cheeks, and the lower plate is like that of the T110's, hit the lower sides near the track as it is only 202mm.

Realistically what it needs is an engine buff to around 600hp so it isn't stupidly slow but still slower than most meds (Except the Panther II, [edited] that shit tank).

Might I ask which German tank you were using when facing it? I can guarantee that I have played whatever tank it is and can help you with it.


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View PostEzz, on 07 December 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

A well rounded discussion. So were you thinking stiffening up the front suspension or softening the rear? I'm sure the devs will be right on this either way.

 

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View PostDefending_The_Fatherland, on 07 December 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

If anything the T26E4 could do with a bit of a buff, the tank is just like the Tiger P, on paper it looks great but in practice the main advantage, being the armor, is absolutely riddled with weakspots that are too easily exploited. As Napalmer listed there are: Cupola, MG port, Mantlet holes, Turret cheeks, and the lower plate is like that of the T110's, hit the lower sides near the track as it is only 202mm.

Realistically what it needs is an engine buff to around 600hp so it isn't stupidly slow but still slower than most meds (Except the Panther II, [edited] that shit tank).

Might I ask which German tank you were using when facing it? I can guarantee that I have played whatever tank it is and can help you with it.

So much cringe I dont know what to say.

"only 202mm"

Tier 8 88mm gun only has 203 penetration on a good day. Completely unreliable for attacking this vehicle form the front. Which is the point of this thread.



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View PostWilhelm_Griswold, on 07 December 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

So much cringe I dont know what to say.

"only 202mm"

Tier 8 88mm gun only has 203 penetration on a good day. Completely unreliable for attacking this vehicle form the front. Which is the point of this thread.

 

Learn to aim dude, killed a T26E4 with the A. Tiger having 175 pen and losing only a bit of hp

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A slight engine buff to increase the hp/ton ratio would suffice. It's quite frustrating when all the damage gets away from you. Literally, since you are a slug of a medium.

 

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Wow, I expected a plz buff post too.

 

Instead of whining about it, why not go on tanks.gg and learn how to pen it?

 

Here you go: https://tanks.gg/tan...ther-88&vm=live This is where a Panther 8.8 can pen it.

 

Drag it around, move your mouse over it to see its effective armour values, and see where its pennable.



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Compared to other armored tier 8 prem, I'll 1v1 SP with my tiger1 any day.
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View PostWilhelm_Griswold, on 07 December 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

So much cringe I dont know what to say.

"only 202mm"

Tier 8 88mm gun only has 203 penetration on a good day. Completely unreliable for attacking this vehicle form the front. Which is the point of this thread.

Me oh my what a good meme.

If only I, or rather Napalmer, had listed multiple other weakspots that can be exploited. Hang on a minute, we did.

Mate, i'm sure we can admit that the Panther 88 isn't exactly a meta tank but it easily outclasses a Super Pershing, it has a better gun as well as having far better mobility. Either shoot one of the other 6 penetrable spots on the front, or simply disengage, bait him into the open then shoot his side.


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View PostEzz, on 07 December 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

A well rounded discussion. So were you thinking stiffening up the front suspension or softening the rear? I'm sure the devs will be right on this either way.

 

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Absolutely and an astutely accurate observation.  QB is ace! I just wish he had a special anime based fan fiction section.

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Learn the weakspots and the armor is cheese, not even the aged type of cheese, the soft squishy cottage cheese kind of cheese.

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