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Murtma #1 Posted 12 December 2017 - 05:49 AM

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Hello WG and fellow tankers!

 

This is proposal about problems in this CWE.

 

Until previous CWE, every top 1400 player was able to obtain reward tank. But this time that’s not the case. This is because most top 1400 player can’t earn 4000 Bonds from this CWE. We thought of necessary and sufficient ways to solve this problem.

 

  1. Discount Reward tank from 4000 bonds.

  2. Distribute more Bonds.

 

For solution 1 importance of CW will decrease. Such tanks as Object 907 should be unique reward from CW, decreasing importance is not appropriate thus solution 2 would be more eligible. Currently most of top 1400 player could get only 500~600 bonds by personal ranking. In this case these players have to get multiplied by 7(=1st clan) to get reward tank.

But increasing personal ranking reward by 200~300 most top 1400 player would be able to get reward tank. We need to discuss about raising bonds as soon as possible.

 

Current regulation is not always appropriate for Asia server, and Asia server might not me important for WG as other region. But at least in Asia server opinions of Asia server players should be respected. This “Clanwars” need to be updated to make it better.

 

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WGとアジアのプレーヤーの皆さん、こんにちは!

 

今回のClanwarsの問題点について話します。

前回のClanwarsまで、アジアの上位1400のプレイヤーは車両を受け取ることができました。

しかし今回のClanwarsでは、上位1400のプレーヤーの多くが、車両を得ることができません。
多くのプレイヤーはClanwarsにおいて、4000に満たないボンズしか取得できないためです。
以前のように、アジアの上位1400のプレイヤーに車両を提供するには2つの方法があります。

 

1.報酬車両の価格を現在の4000ボンズより安くする。
2.プレーヤーに配布するボンズを増やす。

 

1の場合、車両を取得するためのClanwarsの重要性は減少してしまいます。Object 907などの車両は、あくまでClanwars独自の報酬車両であるべきなので、1より2が望ましいでしょう。
今回のClanwarsの問題は、上位1400人の選手でさえ、必ずしも車両が獲得できるとは限らないということです。そこで、私たちはこれを解決するための必要十分な改善案を考えました。

結論はこのようなものです。

 

"上位1400プレイヤーに対してのみ、配布するボンズを増額する"
"ボンズは個人配分に対して増やし、増やす額は順位に関係なく一定とする"

 

現在、上位1400プレーヤーの多くが、個人配分によって500から600のボンズしか得ることができません。この場合、ボンズを7倍に(=1位のクランに所属)しない限り、車両を手に入れることはできません。
しかし、例えば、上位1400プレーヤーへの個人配分を200や300ボンズ増額すれば、車両を獲得できるプレイヤーの数は大幅に増え、1400に近づくでしょう。ボンズをどの程度増額すべきか、具体的に議論すべきです。

 

現状のレギュレーションは、必ずしもアジアサーバーに適しているわけではありません。アジアサーバーは、WGの世界におけるビジネスにおいて重要ではないかもしれませんが、少なくともアジアサーバー内では、アジアのプレイヤーの意見は尊重されるべきです。そして、Clanwarsがよりよいものへと修正される必要があります。

 
次のクランはすでにこの提案を支持しています。
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Edited by Murtma, 12 December 2017 - 08:30 PM.


Rainbow_The_Artistic #2 Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:48 AM

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I totally agree with the proposal, as I said before. If the tank is said to be offered to the top 1400 players, it should therefore be buyable if in at least a top 10 clan, although this is not the case for many players and gives false hope to the achievement of being top 1400. 

 

I hope WG Asia will listen to its small community. 


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gearppuccino #3 Posted 12 December 2017 - 09:40 AM

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We, all CROWN members, are all for this proposal.

I hope all player's efforts in this CWC will pay off .



tekno #4 Posted 12 December 2017 - 01:11 PM

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This has been discussed to death elsewhere in the forums and in the CoaF skype....

I would have thought someone in the clans listed above would have noticed the "buy for 4k bonds" bit a LONG time ago.


 



marimo2_2 #5 Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:58 PM

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aurora97 #6 Posted 12 December 2017 - 08:51 PM

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Jordy_The_Agonistic #7 Posted 12 December 2017 - 08:53 PM

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We can get on board with this, unless Max and the boys had something better planned ;)

 


Hydrangea_mokomoko #8 Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:51 PM

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azumi777 #9 Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:44 AM

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I agree with this.

In spite of making an effort for a year for vehicles, we had not been informed anything until just before this event.
This is truly ruthless. 

 


Centurion_IRL #10 Posted 13 December 2017 - 02:39 AM

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ANZAF and ANZAS support this

 

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Moved to Campaign 2.0 

 

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Railway_artillery #12 Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:01 AM

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Ezz #13 Posted 13 December 2017 - 03:11 AM

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Sounds like a great idea for next campaign and i'd support them introducing it at that point. Hell, if tanks were more a realistic possibility in this campaign i know we would have made more of an effort.

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_Violence_ #14 Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:25 AM

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Thank you Murtma for thoughtfully writing this. I agree with the proposal.

Now that AC 48 and Foch have autoloaders in 9.20, I gladly say that I am the 2nd Asian player to get their 3 marks before update 9.20.

Object 263's 3 marks with 5300+ damage standard is easier than the worst Tier 9 TD (Foch) before 9.20, with a damage standard of 3200.


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tekno #16 Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:50 PM

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Sorry fellas but I cant support this, a change of rules this late in the CP.

Quite a few clans read and digested the rules....realised the "buy for bonds" bit precluded them getting tanks so structured their CP for camo for their clan. Changing the rewards this late completely screws those clans.(who could have pushed  players up into the top1400 but chose not to due to the awarding structure)


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tlmitf #17 Posted 13 December 2017 - 01:59 PM

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So you didn't read the rules, and so now because you cant get what you want, you want the rules changed?

Nope.

Deal with it.

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Rainbow_The_Artistic #18 Posted 13 December 2017 - 02:58 PM

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View Posttlmitf, on 13 December 2017 - 01:59 PM, said:

So you didn't read the rules, and so now because you cant get what you want, you want the rules changed?

Nope.

Deal with it.

 

Every single person in my clan that wants the tank - bar one. Has the bonds with what they are getting in the campaign to get the tank, so its not a personal thing. Although, I am aware of other clans and can feel the pain for lower ranked players / clans and it is truly unfair to have a false sense of hope.

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View PostxRainbowAssassinx, on 13 December 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

 

Every single person in my clan that wants the tank - bar one. Has the bonds with what they are getting in the campaign to get the tank, so its not a personal thing. Although, I am aware of other clans and can feel the pain for lower ranked players / clans and it is truly unfair to have a false sense of hope.

 

The main prize is bonds, they'll get the bonds they've earned which then gets multiplied by where the clan is on the leader board, If they wish to trade that prize in for the tank they need to make up the rest from playing well in randoms (or ranked if the next season starts soon) 


I honestly would have thought the clans listed above would have read through the rules carefully before ever playing in the CP. While the bonds isn't ideal for those clans it's really on the clan leaders if they didn't realize what needed to happen to get their players enough bonds to get a tank. 
 


   

   

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View Posttekno, on 13 December 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Sorry fellas but I cant support this, a change of rules this late in the CP.

Quite a few clans read and digested the rules....realised the "buy for bonds" bit precluded them getting tanks so structured their CP for camo for their clan. Changing the rewards this late completely screws those clans.(who could have pushed  players up into the top1400 but chose not to due to the awarding structure)

 

JEbus.. cry me a river all you clans that are " GOOD".. not that good at reading i see.. rules were set wayyyy before this even started.. so yea na.. I concur with Tek..  
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