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Wilhelm_Griswold #1 Posted 02 January 2018 - 01:48 PM

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https://www.youtube....h?v=iSFVQ6yRgqM

 

A disproportionate amount of German vehicles featured in the video confirming what German players have been saying for a long time.

Even after the 're-work' of the German tree which accomplished very little, other then completely stuffing some of our efforts to grind to certain tier 10 vehicles.

German players are finding themselves hopelessly outmatched again and again.

 

Power creeping has been an enormous factor which I have tried to explain previously.

 

Queue the forum dwellers complete dis-interest in German player concerns.

 

I dont believe WG has any interest in fixing this situation. I just wanted to take this opportunity to wave this in the faces of the anti German crowd here on the forums.

 

 

 



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So what happens when you take average tanks and give them to sub 50% German tank fanboys?

They get some of the lowest average winrates.

 

Why aren't many soviet tanks in that video? Because they're a lot more idiot-proof. (Armour profile and design)

 

I think the only thing that video confirms is that a lot of players don't know how to play the game correctly.

 

 


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Moved to off-topic as you clearly are only interested in creating a response rather than a serious discussion

 

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Can have a summary list? Not gonna watch at work and probably going to disagree with most of text list anyway.

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View PostWilhelm_Griswold, on 02 January 2018 - 03:48 PM, said:

https://www.youtube....h?v=iSFVQ6yRgqM

 

A disproportionate amount of German vehicles featured in the video confirming what German players have been saying for a long time.

Even after the 're-work' of the German tree which accomplished very little, other then completely stuffing some of our efforts to grind to certain tier 10 vehicles.

German players are finding themselves hopelessly outmatched again and again.

 

Power creeping has been an enormous factor which I have tried to explain previously.

 

Queue the forum dwellers complete dis-interest in German player concerns.

 

I dont believe WG has any interest in fixing this situation. I just wanted to take this opportunity to wave this in the faces of the anti German crowd here on the forums.

 

 

 

 

Perhaps these players should get good? Why should WG be interested in buffing tanks that don't need them? Also you do realize that this is just drama that QB is stirring up to make people watch his content?

If there was any german tank I feel needs a buff it's the E-100, nothing to do with the gun but the armor just doesn't cut it anymore as it's riddled with weakspots even a 40%er could find.

   

     

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WarMongeringFishMonger #6 Posted 02 January 2018 - 02:44 PM

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 02 January 2018 - 06:08 AM, said:

Can have a summary list? Not gonna watch at work and probably going to disagree with most of text list anyway.

 

10.AMX 50B (tier 10, French)
9. SU-122-54 ( tier 9, Soviet)
8. B-C 155 55 (tier 9, French)
7. JgTig.8.8cm  (tier 8, British pref MM tank)
6. Fv 215b (tier 10,  British special tank??)
5. Tiger 2 (tier 8, German)
4. Panther 8.8 (tier 8, German prem tank)
3. Leopard 1 (tier 10, German)
2. Indian Panzer (tier 8, German)
1. Churchill GC (tier 6, British)

 

 


Edited by Clerin, 02 January 2018 - 02:46 PM.


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Actually it was not the opinion of QB that these were the worst tanks but it was the win rate of these tanks that were the worst according to VBAddict stats.

Therefore these tanks are probably the least noob friendly tanks being used by players who just don't understand how they should be played.

Having said that, unicums probably avoid these tanks too because they are mediocre


Edited by TrinityShock, 02 January 2018 - 02:47 PM.

We wanted better MM, they gave us Wheelies 

 

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Vbadit data are useless, those tanks dont have high/low win due to being op or up, its the player who play them did :P

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View Postjessica_raven, on 02 January 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

Where did QB got data for those, vbaddit?

 

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Was in a game earlier with the OP who was whining about the same thing.

Of course he did 0 damage, although he was bottom tier in a heavy on steppes admittedly.

I'm sure players of the Maus, E-75s, Skorp G, E-50s etc. all think that they're crap.
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View PostClerin, on 02 January 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

 

10.AMX 50B (tier 10, French)
9. SU-122-54 ( tier 9, Soviet)
8. B-C 155 55 (tier 9, French)
7. JgTig.8.8cm  (tier 8, British pref MM tank)
6. Fv 215b (tier 10,  British special tank??)
5. Tiger 2 (tier 8, German)
4. Panther 8.8 (tier 8, German prem tank)
3. Leopard 1 (tier 10, German)
2. Indian Panzer (tier 8, German)
1. Churchill GC (tier 6, British)

 

 

 

I see my prediction was correct. Maybe except the ChurchGC since I haven't played it and my opinion of TDs is probably off since I'm not a padder, and the 122-54 since that one is objectively bad.

 

My opinion has been mentioned - those stats aren't meaningful if you don't look beyond the surface. Trivia: IS-6 was for a long period of time the worst tier 8 prem based on stats. Now the stats have changed, which is in itself a point to take note.

 

Fact that 50B and 215b are CW tanks only confirms the badness of that list. Batsplat55 would be CW tank if tier 9 CW existed since it's tier 8 and X brothers are.


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i thought vbaddict was closing down...so are the stats still current??

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View Post_Sammich_, on 02 January 2018 - 02:55 PM, said:

I'm sure players of the Maus, E-75s, Skorp G, E-50s etc. all think that they're crap.

 

We the advice givers are to blame. Newbies ask us what are the best tanks to play. They play the best tanks without knowing about the rest. Then they proceed to 47% in the best tanks and blame the tanks.


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View PostClerin, on 02 January 2018 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

10.AMX 50B (tier 10, French)
9. SU-122-54 ( tier 9, Soviet)
8. B-C 155 55 (tier 9, French)
7. JgTig.8.8cm  (tier 8, British German pref MM tank)
6. Fv 215b (tier 10,  British special tank)
5. Tiger 2 (tier 8, German)
4. Panther 8.8 (tier 8, German prem tank)
3. Leopard 1 (tier 10, German)
2. Indian Panzer (tier 8, German)
1. Churchill GC (tier 6, British)

 

 

 

Thanks for the list. (fixt it too)

 

 

Lets see. 

10. Unwarranted. Its an Autoloader with good gun handling, mobility, pen. Nowhere near the worst tier 10 let alone one of the 10 worst tanks in the game. Stupid decision to be anywhere near this list. 

9. No comment, haven't played.

8. Its an arty, arty shouldn't be in this list. Especially when its probably better than the tier 10 arty since the autoloader is trash now and the gun isn't that terrible. Plus turret and mobility. 

7. No longer meta, kind of justified a little. 

6. BS, should not be there, its just fickle to play but it doesn't deserve to be on this list. The tank should not be played like a heavy but people that do probably think its the worst tank in the game. Its amazing if you aren't stupid and dont charge in it. 

5. Justified, the armour doesn't hold up and the DPM is rather disappointing since it doesn't quite compensate its armour. 

4. Justified, not many redeeming features. Probably shouldn't be this far up the list, plenty of other tanks that aren't this more deserving of this spot. 

3. Justified, powercreeped and meta shifted into obsoleteness. 

2. Not justified, Its not the best tier 8 med but its not completely trash. TVP VTU is more deserving of a mention than the curry-panzer because the TVP VTU has no redeeming features at all while the curry-panzer has some sort of armour somewhere and isn't a barn.

1. Justified. 

 

Lack of O-hohoho, Tiger Poo, T-34-2, TVP VTU, 59 Patton, ARL V39, AMX 65t and CDC in this list is kinda interesting. 

 

As if i needed more reasons to ignore what QB says. His opinions have become increasingly out of touch and useless. 

 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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To be fair, some tanks on the list could use a bit of love. Leopard 1 and Tiger II defintely got the short end of the stick compared to others.


 

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Here is a list of tanks i deem to be far below par in the game. I will miss out on a fair few of the lower tier stuff because who honestly gives a damn about them. Also will be skipping CH TDs because i have no idea how they play.

 

Chiyna: T-34-2, WZ-132A, 59 Patton, (to some extent) 110

Czech: TVP VTU

Francois: ARL V39, quack quack AMX-40, AMX 65t, CDC

Germany: Tiger Poo, Tiger (me) Too, Panther 8.8, Leo 1, RHM Panzerwagon. Unsure on other LTs now.

Japan: O-Hohoho (merry kurissimassu)

Sveeden: ______ (these tanks are all pretty good)

UK: Church GC (ewwwwwwww), Church 7, Sentinal, (to some extent, Black Prince)

USA: Bulldoge... wait thats it

Soviet: SU-122-54 (at least it looks sexy), some might say the A-44

 

Only 50% of the list is in what i consider to be the 'worst' 

The germans have a fair few tanks and only 5 i would consider to be the bad enough to mention. The french have a far greater amount proportional to the amount of tanks in the game. 


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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Fox just bad @ armor

 

But all those pos premium tanks and TDs can fill more than a list of 10 on their own.


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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 02 January 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

Fox just bad @ armor

 

But all those pos premium tanks and TDs can fill more than a list of 10 on their own.

 

You can't work with armour when they can butter through you angled even without gold now :(

 

Tiger P needs a bit more dpm and accuracy to make up for its speed and weakspot riddled hull, Tiger II needs more dpm to turn it into a proper support tank that can maybe bounce things at range so it plays more like the Tiger I but with an actual ability to bounce things if you overangle enough. 

 

Church 7 has no redeeming features except its hard to spill your tea. 

In fact, most of my list are paper tanks without the ability to really deal damage because the guns are complete garbage. edit: technically the church 7 fits that too. Its armour is irrelevant since everything pens it anyway and the gun tickles.


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostClerin, on 02 January 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

 

10.AMX 50B (tier 10, French)
9. SU-122-54 ( tier 9, Soviet)
8. B-C 155 55 (tier 9, French)
7. JgTig.8.8cm  (tier 8, British pref MM tank)
6. Fv 215b (tier 10,  British special tank??)
5. Tiger 2 (tier 8, German)
4. Panther 8.8 (tier 8, German prem tank)
3. Leopard 1 (tier 10, German)
2. Indian Panzer (tier 8, German)
1. Churchill GC (tier 6, British)

 

 

 

1. 50b is easily one of the best tanks in the game and it's a personal favourite for alot of unicums. It's fast, has good gun depression, a brutal clip and funny Armour. It's been buffed twice (it didn't need it.) it has a low wr because most players don't know how to be patient or leverage any kind of advantage.

 

6. Not up at all. The fv is one of the comfiest tanks to play in the game. Absolute God like gun handling penetration and dpm,  decent gun dep (for a rear mounted turret,) and alot of HP. Pubbies do badly in it for the same reason as the 50b, they can't be patient. 

 

3. To an extant it needs a buff sure, but it's not the worst tier 10 medium in the game by a long shot. It still has really good speed and acceleration, laser accurate gun and nice gun depression. Pubbies to badly in it for the same reason as before, lack of patience. 

 

 

The others on the list are rubbish but it goes to show how out of touch QB is, he should play more tier 10 before commenting on tier 10 tanks 

 


 

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View PostVa1heru, on 02 January 2018 - 08:15 PM, said:

 

1. 50b is easily one of the best tanks in the game and it's a personal favourite for alot of unicums. It's fast, has good gun depression, a brutal clip and funny Armour. It's been buffed twice (it didn't need it.) it has a low wr because most players don't know how to be patient or leverage any kind of advantage.

 

6. Not up at all. The fv is one of the comfiest tanks to play in the game. Absolute God like gun handling penetration and dpm,  decent gun dep (for a rear mounted turret,) and alot of HP. Pubbies do badly in it for the same reason as the 50b, they can't be patient. 

 

3. To an extant it needs a buff sure, but it's not the worst tier 10 medium in the game by a long shot. It still has really good speed and acceleration, laser accurate gun and nice gun depression. Pubbies to badly in it for the same reason as before, lack of patience. 

 

 

The others on the list are rubbish but it goes to show how out of touch QB is, he should play more tier 10 before commenting on tier 10 tanks 

 

 

Leopard 1 could do with some sweet gun handling buffs. The amount of dispersion it has when it moves/rotates the turret is the biggest problem with the tank imo. If the gun handled more like the E-50M it'd be sweet.

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