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User_000125661 #1 Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:09 PM

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3 for 3 battles tonight I have been ammo racked (turret blown off).  It can't be RNGesus - this is a statistical anomaly.  


 


Proloser_The_Atomistic #2 Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:16 PM

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Don't show your hull so often? Your stats suggest that you're probably over-exposing yourself to incoming fire and getting blasted in the ammo rack easily.

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View PostUser_000125661, on 14 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

this is a statistical anomaly.  

 

It's no anomaly; just life in a tier 8 med. This is what happens when you get too pokey around high calibur guns. Play the FCM50T; it can get penned by a tier 6 LT frontally and have its ammorack damaged (why I pay money for this frenchie crapbox grrrrrrrrr)

 

Put a wet rack on until your crew gets safe stowage skill.

 

Anecdotally I've heard this tank always gets a hard run in MM so I would not be approaching it with anything less than a 3 perk crew


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I dont notice my turret being blown off in my T69, you're probably exposing yourself too much. 

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


Gani_GANz #5 Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:51 PM

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most US tanks prone to ammorack damage, not only T69.

the whole hull sides of US tanks are pure ammorack. even sometimes, a random shot to the LFP can reach the ammorack. I've experienced this more than 10 times.


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View PostGani_GANz, on 15 January 2018 - 12:51 AM, said:

most US tanks prone to ammorack damage, not only T69.

the whole hull sides of US tanks are pure ammorack. even sometimes, a random shot to the LFP can reach the ammorack. I've experienced this more than 10 times.

 

M103 is notorious.........I was originally in disbeleif that the enite M103 hull could be ammorack prone; then I did some research. Turns out ammo was stored all around the hull :amazed:

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Apparently the ammo storage is on the front right corner opposite the driver's position (Source: WotInfo).

 

 

While it's possible for internal ricochets to hit the ammo storage, it's more likely you are exposing your hull too much. As others mentioned, keep your hull hidden as much as possible.

 

 

 

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View Postazmania3000, on 14 January 2018 - 10:57 PM, said:

 

M103 is notorious.........I was originally in disbeleif that the entire M103 hull could be ammorack prone; then I did some research. Turns out ammo was stored all around the hull :amazed:

 

roughly, that's what I'm talking about....

I'd say, sidescraping in US tanks is not recommended (but I'm still doing it. almost no other safe way to absorb damage)

 

View Postneokai, on 14 January 2018 - 11:33 PM, said:

internal ricochets 

 

what?!!! this exist in the game?

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Put it another way, the T69 turret is well armored, thats all you should be exposing to enemy fire, have your hull, hull down as much as possible.
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User_000125661 #10 Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:08 AM

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Not all maps favour hiding the hull!  Does it make any difference between the 76mm or 90mm gun.  I'm using the 76 for higher DPM at the moment.


 


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90mm gun is the only gun to use. If you want DPM in an Autoloader you shouldn't be playing an autoloader. The clip potential and pen is just far superior in the T69. You poke up, do a couple shots or a clip and pull back. 

 

There is always spots where you can expose the smallest part of your tank, you just need to find them.

 

Another autoloader trick is to bait a shot with an ally or just take a shot and clip out an enemy which is only really recommended if they are low enough HP and you can do it before they get 2 shots in. 


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


User_000125661 #12 Posted 15 January 2018 - 09:42 AM

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True, but that 30 second reload means you are dead in a 1 on 1 (or more) if you can't clip out!  I now have safe stowage and wet ammo rack.  No ammo rack damage yet!

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View PostUser_000125661, on 15 January 2018 - 11:42 AM, said:

 I now have safe stowage and wet ammo rack.  No ammo rack damage yet!

 

Keep the wet rack on until you feel confident in the tank..........and if you don't get confident; don't take it off :)

 

Really you should be taking the big gun like Fox says; put out as much damage as possible then hide, and relocate if you can

 

View PostUser_000125661, on 15 January 2018 - 11:42 AM, said:

True, but that 30 second reload means you are dead in a 1 on 1 (or more) if you can't clip out! 

 

Your only chance is to engage enemies at distance. A track shot may buy you precious seconds; perhaps offer an opportunity to find some hard cover if you get caught with your pants down



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Is it just me or are the people complaining about auto loaders needing a buff rather similar to the ones that had been complaining they needed a nerf? 

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View PostUser_000125661, on 15 January 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

True, but that 30 second reload means you are dead in a 1 on 1 (or more) if you can't clip out!  I now have safe stowage and wet ammo rack.  No ammo rack damage yet!

You should be nowhere near that 1v1. The bigger gun means there are more opportunities to 1v1 because you have the bigger burst.

 

Ammorack damage doesn't affect intraclip reload so don't repair till after even if you do get smacked in the ammo rack. 

View PostEzz, on 15 January 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

Is it just me or are the people complaining about auto loaders needing a buff rather similar to the ones that had been complaining they needed a nerf? 

They're finally playing one ;)

 

 

Autoloaders are all about punishing players for mistakes or taking on isolated enemies. If you aren't doing that you're spreading opportunistic shots. Ideally though, to influence a battle, you'd be doing the former. Its a class of tank that really requires skill to win and do well. 

 


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View Postsoutherner, on 15 January 2018 - 06:44 AM, said:

Put it another way, the T69 turret is well armored, thats all you should be exposing to enemy fire, have your hull, hull down as much as possible.

 

Actually, autoloader tanks all have weak turrets with the exception of EMIL (strong frontal face) and French TDs (no turrets). That being said, the American med and heavy turrets are rather more armored and have enough angles to bait a troll bounce.

 

It's not so much being hull down (tank is not armored enough) but rather to use mobility and angles to force poorly-aimed shots at your strongest armor. That way, single shot tanks waste their shots, or you trade 1 hit of damage for 4 shots back.

 

View PostUser_000125661, on 15 January 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

Not all maps favour hiding the hull!  Does it make any difference between the 76mm or 90mm gun.  I'm using the 76 for higher DPM at the moment.

 

90mm has more pen, more alpha (greater burst potential) and requires you to expose yourself less (4 shots in clip versus 5 for the 76mm). If you want a 76mm use the T71; The T69 is defined by the 90mm gun firing 4 times in quick succession giving you the "alpha" of a TD (900+ damage per clip).


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