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FramFramson #1 Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:44 PM

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Poor old Leo - an incredible, amazing tank... for a WoT game which doesn't exist. The king of a long-dead meta, it can still be deadly in the right hands, but I wouldn't say no to a buff to give it a bit more flexibility in the current meta, you know?

 

Leaving aside the completely laughable fact that WG has said they can't buff the Leo or "it will become OP", how do you buff the thing while retaining some semblance of uniqueness? The AMX 30B, the only other TX tank which was anything like it, is now a midrange brawler, closer to the STB.

 

I've thought of a lot of different things, but I think it would come down to one thing: Pour more into that gun. Not more DPM necessarily, but other stats.

 

1 - Improved gun handling, so it can actually KIND OF snap shot.

2 - Improve the base accuracy even further so that it would be, you know, actually accurate in spite of our horrific 25% RNG. Make it the tank that can pen those tiny cupolas!

3 - Noticeably increase the pen on the base APCR (280? 290?) OR make the base ammo into AP without changing the velocity or penetration (i.e. for greatly improved normalization). Or both!

 

Making it faster won't do much, it's already faster than everything but the Bat Chat. Increasing the view range or best-in-class camo even further is pretty useless (hence dead-meta tank). Giving it armour would basically remove the last conventional TX medium to not rely on armour and destroy everything that's unique about it. Making it a tank that can super-reliably hit and pen things would reward both scrubs and good players (i.e. ones who can aim and know where to aim).


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Aoyama_Blue_Mountain #2 Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:55 PM

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Less DPM, more accuracy, turret armor.

 

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Move to places and snipe snipe, but not so much DPM that it becomes a TAD.


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Jagdpanzer_General #3 Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:19 PM

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Basically, just upgrade it to Leopard 1A2 :P

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FramFramson #4 Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:22 PM

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 13 February 2018 - 04:55 PM, said:

Less DPM, more accuracy, turret armor.

 

A.k.a. German gun

 

Move to places and snipe snipe, but not so much DPM that it becomes a TAD.

 

I don't think it's exactly a DPM monster right now though. Less DPM might make it unplayable.

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ValheruTOP1 #5 Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:42 PM

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Move it to tier 9, introduce the leopard 1a2 or whatever varient that fits in the game but gives it armour. Also it has trash camo. Cimpared to literally any Russian medium, it has worse armour than all of them

 

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_Sammich_ #6 Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:57 PM

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Improve the gun bloom and base accuracy - it shouldn't miss shots.

Increase the camo slightly.

Or do what Val said.
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Ezz #7 Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:03 PM

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It kinda is already at tier 9. The leo prot after its buffs is a joy to play.

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DeadArashi #8 Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:09 PM

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Merge the Leo Prot and Leo into one tank at tier 9 and intorduce the Kpz 70 with the proposed German 120mm as the new tier 10

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Zynth #9 Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:51 PM

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Gun handling buff that it needs so sorely.

 

Or Leopard 1A2.


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Puggsley #10 Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:44 AM

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Hidden gun handling stats need some work.

 

But that will never happen, its just one giant "balancing" around Soviet tanks.

 

And besides, they have been busy tarting up the same old corridor maps - should be good for ages. What do these complaining peasants want???






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