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Underhook #1 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:36 PM

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Just played a game in my tier 7 checzh tank.  I came across a another tier 7 medium (had not seen it before) VK.45.03.  Even though I got green indicators, I was unable to pen it with any of my 3 hits.  It destroyed me easily.   I thought to myself ..... that tank seems OP  ....... I bet its a premium tank.  Yep, it is.  100 mm turret and hull and very good slope.

WG, enough with the PTW premium tanks that are clearly better than the tanks that can be earnt.  It's destroying the game.



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If you think the 45.03 is OP then you've got a whole world of pain ahead of you.

But yeah I agree with sentiment.  Unfortunately the horse has long since bolted.

I have to admit I got a little peeved playing Frontline and coming up against a certain clan platoon that simply cycled through defender, 252U and Lorry 40.

That's like $360 of P2W tanks right there.
Kind of put a stop to my tentative return to WoT.



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VK4503 is op? u barely scratch the surface mate

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Oddly enough the VK 45.03 Only has the armour of a tiger 1. It just get's it angled.

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The_average_tanker #5 Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:05 PM

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It is not OP and it is not a medium. How do you get to play 28k battles and think the VK 45.03 is OP. Have you not met the real OP tanks in the battlefield. I mean i guess you meant the defender ot VK 100.01P and misspelled it to the VK 45.03.

 

 

 

 


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I think the 45.03 is the least of the games problems right now. Have you met a 268v4, Defender (252U), or 430U yet?

Underhook #7 Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:23 PM

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Wow, those are some assumptions you guys are making.

I have 10 tier 10's and I'm well aware of those PTW tanks you all mentioned.  Apparently if I mention a different one I somehow don't know anything.  LOL



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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 16 May 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

It is not OP and it is not a medium. How do you get to play 28k battles and think the VK 45.03 is OP. Have you not met the real OP tanks in the battlefield. I mean i guess you meant the defender ot VK 100.01P and misspelled it to the VK 45.03.

 

My bad, it is indeed a heavy.  The way it moved I assumed it was a medium.


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IS2B >> VK45.03, you gonna hate IS2B when you meet it.

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View PostUnderhook, on 16 May 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

Wow, those are some assumptions you guys are making.

I have 10 tier 10's and I'm well aware of those PTW tanks you all mentioned.  Apparently if I mention a different one I somehow don't know anything.  LOL

 

I'm pretty sure none of the comments were made in a derogatory manner. We just haven't had issues with the 45.03 yet... maybe it is OP but honestly in comparison to the others, like I said, isn't much of an issue right now. I'd like to see some of the aforementioned tanks dealt with first before lower tiers are re-balanced. 

AussieGenesis #11 Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:20 PM

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View PostUnderhook, on 16 May 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

Just played a game in my tier 7 checzh tank.  I came across a another tier 7 medium (had not seen it before) VK.45.03.  Even though I got green indicators, I was unable to pen it with any of my 3 hits.  It destroyed me easily.   I thought to myself ..... that tank seems OP  ....... I bet its a premium tank.  Yep, it is.  100 mm turret and hull and very good slope.

WG, enough with the PTW premium tanks that are clearly better than the tanks that can be earnt.  It's destroying the game.

 

If you had green indicators you plainly either had an ultra-low penetration roll or bad luck with the dispersion. Green marker means it will almost certainly pen, but only if you directly hit it. 

AussieGenesis #12 Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:25 PM

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View PostThingol, on 16 May 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:

If you think the 45.03 is OP then you've got a whole world of pain ahead of you.

But yeah I agree with sentiment. Unfortunately the horse has long since bolted.

I have to admit I got a little peeved playing Frontline and coming up against a certain clan platoon that simply cycled through defender, 252U and Lorry 40.

That's like $360 of P2W tanks right there.
Kind of put a stop to my tentative return to WoT.
 

 

A single platoon that will extremely rarely occur stopped you from playing World of Tanks in general? Wow. Hate to think what happens when you meet a single sealclubber or a single overpowered tank in a regular battle. 

Defender isn't really the overpowered tank people make it out to be really, and the Lorraine 40 t is just a garden variety autoloader with basically no armour that it doesn't matter much. The only thing it has is being able to keep distance, which you can't do in the current city map meta. 252U can admittedly be a bit annoying though. 



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4503 is just a worse Tiger I...

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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostAussieGenesis, on 16 May 2018 - 08:25 PM, said:

 

A single platoon that will extremely rarely occur stopped you from playing World of Tanks in general? Wow. Hate to think what happens when you meet a single sealclubber or a single overpowered tank in a regular battle. 

Defender isn't really the overpowered tank people make it out to be really, and the Lorraine 40 t is just a garden variety autoloader with basically no armour that it doesn't matter much. The only thing it has is being able to keep distance, which you can't do in the current city map meta. 252U can admittedly be a bit annoying though. 

 

So you don't consider, when facing straight on and no angling, a LFP of 200+ mm and UFP of 330mm at worst, not overpowered at all? What about side armour at the very lowest value of 100mm? What about 440 alpha on top of that, which can 1/3 shot an equal tier HT? What about in addition to that, you give it decent mobility?

 

Honestly you'd have to be very inexperienced to say that the defender is not OP. 



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VK.45.03 is OP... is this some kind of joke of the year (2018) contestant? 

Anyway, I heard the upcoming Tier 8 Polish Heavy is not going to be a Pay To Win


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View PostAussieGenesis, on 16 May 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:

 

If you had green indicators you plainly either had an ultra-low penetration roll or bad luck with the dispersion. Green marker means it will almost certainly pen, but only if you directly hit it. 

 

pretty sure green indicator does not take into account how the tank is angled.


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View PostAldwin_The_Amnestic, on 16 May 2018 - 10:48 PM, said:

 

pretty sure green indicator does not take into account how the tank is angled.

 

It actually has, for several patches now, making it much more reliable. Unfortunately 25% RNG still screws you over often enough. And while it accounts for angle in terms of PEN, it doesn't account for ricochet chance if you're firing something like APCR.

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Nightlords #18 Posted 17 May 2018 - 07:15 AM

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You actually know that it has 100mm of turret armour and you say it is op? Your gun has at least 160mm of pen...this has to be a troll. Shoot the turret it is cheese. [edited] there are cheeses that are stronger than that turret.

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Meanwhile on moonbase 1; a sentry airlock gurad is reading the WG forums......

 

View PostUnderhook, on 16 May 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

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'Please stop making PTW tanks'

While the VK 45.03 has been in the game for quite some time. Ironic.

 





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