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Warhammer124 #1 Posted 17 May 2018 - 03:56 PM

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Played 23 games in my VK 100 01 P. Can you guess how many matches allowed me to be top tier? ONE. I really wanted to make a difference in those 22 matches of mine. But how on earth am I supposed to be able a carry a team as bottom tier, and with tier X HTs and TDs shooting me? Every time I get an chance to be top tier, its like gold for me. I grab it, and carry the team the best I can. I normally get 5 kills, and 3k dmg. However I rarely get those, because 90 percent of my matches end up getting me bottom tier.... as a result my MM gets lower than ever, because I have 3 tier X noobs constantly failing to carry the team and camping at the back, hiding behind ME, or simply AFK... Dk what to do anymore, too many obstacles in my way preventing me from increasing my wn8... its hopeless...

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ksthegreat91 #2 Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:51 PM

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No choice but to power through.

 

VK 100 P is still a very competitive tank even in tier X matches. Only downside is you'll need to fling alot of gold ammo to compensate. 



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Well you could grind it in frontlines.
But the issue is not the fact you keep getting into tier x battles with vk1001p(it is, but it is for everyone)
The difference is that you do not know how to be more effective when not top tier(which is ridiculously easy when top tier due to its armor). You are not even doing 1k dmg on average, which is way less than your HP. This is true for pretty much all for your tanks, sure you may think you know how to play but i honestly doubt you normally get 5 kills and 3k dmg when you average 953dpg and 0.65 kills, sure maybe you get those when top tier but its not that hard to do well in a armored tank when top tier. I would suggest going back to lower tiers and learn the game till you are able to get 50% at that tier before moving up. You have too many battles as it is now, stop rushing to tier x and instead improve your performance and it will not only be easier to get to tier x, you will do far better in it.

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View Postksthegreat91, on 17 May 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

No choice but to power through.

 

VK 100 P is still a very competitive tank even in tier X matches. Only downside is you'll need to fling alot of gold ammo to compensate. 

 

[edited] are those recents lol

 

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ksthegreat91 #5 Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:16 PM

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View PostK4izerr, on 17 May 2018 - 09:04 AM, said:

 

[edited] are those recents lol

 

Dont know, something wonky happening to that. I'm just a measly green , aiming to be blue.

Mother_Of_All_Rommel #6 Posted 17 May 2018 - 05:26 PM

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That dpg means terrible stock grind run :P. Most slow HT have insanely hard stock grind, minus Type 4 and O-I.

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View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 17 May 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

That dpg means terrible stock grind run :P. Most slow HT have insanely hard stock grind, minus Type 4 and O-I.

 

Vk 100.01P has one of the better stock grinds. the stock gun is reasonable usable with some gold spam.

 

 

 

 


Proloser_The_Atomistic #8 Posted 17 May 2018 - 09:35 PM

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OP when you are tier 8 in tier 10, just sit back and try to farm from behind your 10's. 

 

Don't stress about your WN8 or win rate. Those will increase as your skill increases. If you focus on stats the game will become overwhelming. 



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When in doubt, fire HE. Especially in HTs

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Dumb0_Duck #10 Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:47 AM

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You could always do the Frontline mode. That way you'll always top tier :)


 

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Puggsley #11 Posted 18 May 2018 - 08:08 AM

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Stay close behind your Xs and spam HE to track them in the open when you have bugger all chance of doing damage with normal rounds.

 

Your height will often mean you can shoot over the tanks in front. Very similar to OHO

 

Try to avoid getting isolated as MT/LT will own you.

 

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Warhammer124 #12 Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:40 AM

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View PostProloser_The_Atomistic, on 17 May 2018 - 09:35 PM, said:

OP when you are tier 8 in tier 10, just sit back and try to farm from behind your 10's. 

 

Don't stress about your WN8 or win rate. Those will increase as your skill increases. If you focus on stats the game will become overwhelming. 

 

That's the problem. I would rather not stress about it, and honestly Idc what my winrate is, but people keep on sending me harassing messages and other hate messages because of my winrate
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kickim #13 Posted 18 May 2018 - 09:54 AM

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VK100.01P grind isn't too bad.

What I did was jus follow the higher tier HTs/TDs and spam HEs with the stock gun.

That gun is fast firing and u can bring something like 70 rounds of HE.

It doesn't do a lot of damage, but damn it is irritating as hell.

Just need to stay clear of the 4005s,183s, JPEs n of cos the 268v4s.



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View PostDefiant_Duck, on 18 May 2018 - 05:47 AM, said:

You could always do the Frontline mode. That way you'll always top tier :)

 

Too bad it's not staying :(

 

View PostWarhammer124, on 18 May 2018 - 09:40 AM, said:

 

That's the problem. I would rather not stress about it, and honestly Idc what my winrate is, but people keep on sending me harassing messages and other hate messages because of my winrate

 

I think you might be a bit mistaken, people won't bug you for your win rate, people will bug you for your performance in game. After battle they'll check your profile, see your win rate, then use it as ammo to tell you that you are bad.

 

Increasing WN8 won't fix this issue either because people will look at your abnormally high WN8 and compare it to your low win rate and just call you a chai sniper or damage farmer. 

 

The only way to stop any kind of comments towards your play is to actually just play better. If you don't play badly in a game then they don't have a reason to check your WR or message you. 

 

If you want help playing better we'd be more than happy to help. I for one can suggest that you need to start reading the mini map more and learning how to adapt to the flow of a battle. Don't always go to one place, go where you are needed depending on where your team is moving to. Don't isolate yourself, stay around the team even if they go to a stupid part of the map- this will help you stay in the game for longer and will allow you to do more damage and potentially come out with a win. Keep looking for openings and places to put shots in that will help shift the game in your favour. 

 

Watch how unicums do it on streams or videos and try to emulate their behaviour. That's how I got past dark blue and I'm sure you can too if you put your mind to it. 


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Mother_Of_All_Rommel #15 Posted 18 May 2018 - 01:39 PM

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Block them is a sure fire way to stop those toxic scum horde. Wat kind of idiots thinking every1 will play like super uni in random game.

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View PostWarhammer124, on 17 May 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

Played 23 games in my VK 100 01 P. Can you guess how many matches allowed me to be top tier? ONE.

 

That's pretty normal by now. For the past two weeks, know how many times I've been anything but bottom tier? One, and that's at tiers V-VIII. It's not just tier VIII MM that's screwed up.


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View PostSir_Direkin, on 18 May 2018 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

That's pretty normal by now. For the past two weeks, know how many times I've been anything but bottom tier? One, and that's at tiers V-VIII. It's not just tier VIII MM that's screwed up.

Good news is tier 9 almost always top tier, 257/212A/Type4, these tanks get top tier alot. Not really good for 212A, but pretty insane for 257 and Type 4.  Yolo line 2 on prok with Type 4 in 3 arty game are the real "RRR and win" situation. Lots of tier 7 gun bounce of its side even at point blank, dafuq they gonna do to it from the front :D?


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View PostProloser_The_Atomistic, on 18 May 2018 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

I think you might be a bit mistaken, people won't bug you for your win rate, people will bug you for your performance in game. After battle they'll check your profile, see your win rate, then use it as ammo to tell you that you are bad.

 

Increasing WN8 won't fix this issue either because people will look at your abnormally high WN8 and compare it to your low win rate and just call you a chai sniper or damage farmer. 

 

The only way to stop any kind of comments towards your play is to actually just play better. If you don't play badly in a game then they don't have a reason to check your WR or message you. 

 

 

I agree with this. I do not have a great Wn8 or Win rate. I am average at best. but i never get any messages. in battle or outside in chat. That is because i try to do my best. I am in the fight and not at the back sniping (even in my tds, you will find me positioned very aggressively). This has 2 effects. I am improving as a player, as i get better at positioning etc and i do not get any messages after battle.

 

I used to play very defensively and that i think was what was holding me back. Aggressive play while knowing your weaknesses will surely help you in the long run.


 

 

 

 


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Tbh if someone is atleast 50% they are less likely to get pm-ed for "botting". I know I report people with less than 45% wr because I can't tell if they are playing or using a bot..

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nonononononoonono pls dont advise to shoot HE man, it is simply not worth at all. If you cant find any pennable shot, try to look for other angles or engagements or just hold your shot. If you know there is a less than 30% chance of penetrating then dont fire, wait for better opportunities. Also, gold ammo helps for sure because you are in a slow super heavy which cant flank for easy side armor shots. VK1001 220 ap cant pen an is7 reliably, but its 260 apcr can pen is7 roughly at least half the time. 





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