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southerner #1 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:19 AM

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TAP to be officially illegal!

Check out these amazing future additions to the WGNA EULA. Only 13 days left and they are getting applied.

http://legal.na.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

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„5.4 Ownership of Your Account. NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY HEREIN, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOU SHALL HAVE NO OWNERSHIP OR OTHER PROPERTY INTEREST IN YOUR ACCOUNT, AND THAT ALL RIGHTS IN AND TO YOUR ACCOUNT ARE AND SHALL FOREVER BE OWNED BY AND INURE TO THE BENEFIT OF WARGAMING. YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOU HAVE NO CLAIM, RIGHT, TITLE, OWNERSHIP, OR OTHER PROPRIETARY INTEREST IN THE ADDITIONAL FEATURES (AS DEFINED BELOW) THAT YOU UNLOCK OR ACCUMULATE, REGARDLESS OF ANY CONSIDERATION OFFERED OR PAID IN EXCHANGE FOR SUCH ADDITIONAL FEATURES.FURTHERMORE, WARGAMING SHALL NOT BE LIABLE IN ANY MANNER FOR THE DESTRUCTION, DELETION, MODIFICATION, IMPAIRMENT, HACKING, OR ANY OTHER DAMAGE OR LOSS OF ANY KIND CAUSED TO THE GAME CONTENT OR ADDITIONAL FEATURES, INCLUDING THE DELETION OF GAME CONTENT OR ADDITIONAL FEATURES UPON THE TERMINATION OR EXPIRATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT.

 

9.3.1 you acknowledge and agree that Wargaming retains ownership of the Fansite Content, and any and all derivative works thereof, and has the right to amend, delete, add to or otherwise modify, or to revoke the foregoing license with respect to, any items of Fansite Content at any time;

9.3.6 the Fansite will not post material that is disparaging, illegal or infringes on the rights of any third party or that damages (or that might damage) the reputation of Wargaming or of any of the Games;

9.3.7 except as expressly permitted in this EULA, you shall not rent, lease, reproduce, modify, translate the Fansite Content, or make an adaptation of (including without limitation fiction or visual art), or in any way exploit, any of the Content without our express written permission; and

9.3.8 you must not make, or seek to make, any commercial use or profit out of the Fansite Content (including for example by selling subscriptions to your Fansite) without our prior written consent.

 

9.4 If you fail to comply with any of the terms set out in this section, we reserve the right to terminate your license over the Fansite Content and also to close your Account.

9.5 All goodwill arising from your use of Fansite Content, including from use of any trademarks owned by Wargaming, shall inure solely to the benefit of Wargaming.”

Some other changes (compiled by uisinart_Killa):

  1. No class action lawsuits, and a change to your legal representation to arbitration.
  2. Anything you submit or post to wargaming or the WG forums belongs to them, along with all rights for use and reproduction.
  3. You’re not allowed to make money on any content without written permission, this means web sites with ads, or youtube videos.

Wargaming has decided you don’t own anything you buy from them. From now on, we are spending money on things we have no rights to anymore. The KV-5 nerf is just the start. With this EULA, all our premiums are at risk.

Full eula link here

http://legal.na.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

Now this eula applies to NA wargaming portal, But i am quite sure it also applies here.


Edited by southerner, 02 June 2018 - 11:27 AM.

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SaltyBob_ #2 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:22 AM

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English please .. this is the English Sub-Forum   :P

southerner #3 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:31 AM

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What some parts of the new EULA (end user licence agreement) with what premium tanks we buy, we do not own them, this slots in nicely with getting rid of preferential matchmaking premiums in our accounts, To continue playing we have to sign the new eula therefor signing away our rights to our preferential premiums. This new eula comes out 15/06/2018.

 

It has been said that our (NZ) consumer laws and probably other countries can make this illegal. That remains to be seen.


Edited by southerner, 02 June 2018 - 11:34 AM.

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FramFramson #4 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:52 AM

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So the rage threads are already in the hundreds of pages on the other servers... Oh boy, this should get interesting.

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MagicalFlyingFox #5 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:54 AM

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View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 01:52 PM, said:

So the rage threads are already in the hundreds of pages on the other servers... Oh boy, this should get interesting.

 

PBKApathy would need to log in to accept EULA. 

 

We're in the clear. 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


FramFramson #6 Posted 02 June 2018 - 11:54 AM

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I mean, this EULA is straight-up illegal in the EU. Period.

 

Rasha... who knows? But I'm sure there are big name Russian streamers and news sites.


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FramFramson #7 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:05 PM

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But seriously, I have zero problem with taking a break until this all shakes out, rather than agree to that sort of EULA the first day it comes up.

 

As usual, I'm wondering how Russia will take this.


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ksthegreat91 #8 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:06 PM

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SOMEONE GET THIS THING TO JIM STERLING RIGHT AWAY.

HE'LL TEAR INTO IT.



ksthegreat91 #9 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:13 PM

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TL : DR

-Everything in WoT belongs to WG, including the money we all spent for tanks ect.... 

 

And this is the morally wrong part

-Fan sites are NOT ALLOWED to talk bad about WG, period.


Edited by ksthegreat91, 02 June 2018 - 12:13 PM.


MagicalFlyingFox #10 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:27 PM

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 25.1 Generally. In the interest of resolving disputes between you and Wargaming in the most expedient and cost effective manner, you and Wargaming agree that any and all disputes arising in connection with this EULA shall be resolved by binding arbitration. Arbitration is more informal than a lawsuit in court. Arbitration uses a neutral arbitrator instead of a judge or jury, may allow for more limited discovery than in court, and can be subject to very limited review by courts. Arbitrators can award the same damages and relief that a court can award. Our agreement to arbitrate disputes includes, but is not limited to all claims arising out of or relating to any aspect of this EULA, whether based in contract, tort, statute, fraud, misrepresentation or any other legal theory, and regardless of whether the claims arise during or after the termination of this EULA. YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, BY ENTERING INTO THIS EULA, YOU AND WARGAMING ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY OR TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION.

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25.6 No Class Actions. YOU AND WARGAMING AGREE THAT EACH MAY BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE OTHER ONLY IN YOUR OR ITS INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY AND NOT AS A PLAINTIFF OR CLASS MEMBER IN ANY PURPORTED CLASS OR REPRESENTATIVE PROCEEDING. Further, unless both you and Wargaming agree otherwise, the arbitrator may not consolidate more than one person's claims, and may not otherwise preside over any form of a representative or class proceeding.

 

lol

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25.8 Enforceability. If Subsection 25.6 is found to be unenforceable or if the entirety of this Section 25 is found to be unenforceable, then the entirety of this Section 25 shall be null and void and, in such case, the parties agree that the exclusive jurisdiction and venue described in Section 25 shall govern any action arising out of or related to this EULA.

 

 


Edited by MagicalFlyingFox, 02 June 2018 - 12:30 PM.

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


The_average_tanker #11 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:38 PM

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View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:

So the rage threads are already in the hundreds of pages on the other servers... Oh boy, this should get interesting.

 

Do you have a link to the thread in other servers?

 

 

 

 


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 02 June 2018 - 11:54 AM, said:

 

PBKApathy would need to log in to accept EULA. 

 

We're in the clear. 

 

PMSL you know how to take something and run with it :P

 


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The_average_tanker #13 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:41 PM

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 02 June 2018 - 09:57 AM, said:

 

lol

 

 

 

How are these worded in the current EULA? Is there a significant difference.

Plus the last quote makes the whole thing null and void in countries which strong consumer protection laws. While people with non existent consumer protection laws like India and neighboring countries might as well be [edited].


 

 

 

 


MagicalFlyingFox #14 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:44 PM

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WoT ASIA EULA

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-licence-agreement/

 

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11.1 We warrant that:

  • (a) we have the right to enter this EULA and to grant you the licences to use the Game set out in section 5;
  • (b) we shall use reasonable skill and care to give you access to the Game; and
  • (c) we shall use reasonable endeavours to comply with applicable laws in the performance of our obligations under this EULA.

11.2 We provide the Game for personal entertainment, on an 'as is' basis. This means that we do not warrant that the Game are free of errors and also that we make no warranties about the features, content or other parts of the Game.

 

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13.1 This EULA and any dispute, claim or obligation (whether contractual or non-contractual) arising out of or in connection with it or its subject matter or formation shall be governed by  law of the Republic of Cyprus.

13.2 Unless otherwise provided by the laws of the country in which you live, we and you submit to the jurisdiction of the  courts of the Republic of Cyprus.

 

 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


AlexTheKid72 #15 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:46 PM

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Will contact consumer affairs here in New Zealand to see if this [edited]can carry.

What I see is WarGaming attempting to avoid consumer law - so the bait and switch currently underway with OUR preferential premiums can go ahead without backlash. 

 

You might want to run a customer confidence survey about now, WarGaming. The results may scare you back to reality.


Edited by AlexTheKid72, 02 June 2018 - 12:49 PM.

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MagicalFlyingFox #16 Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:48 PM

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New EULA is the same as the NA EULA. 

 

Copy paste essentially, even bits about AAA(American arbiters association)


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 02 June 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

WoT ASIA EULA

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-licence-agreement/

 

 

 

 

 

Well very meek in comparison. Hopefully this will remain unchanged.

 

 

 

 


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View PostAlexTheKid72, on 02 June 2018 - 02:46 PM, said:

Will contact consumer affairs here in New Zealand to see if this [edited]can carry.

What I see is WarGaming attempting to avoid consumer law - so the bait and switch currently underway with OUR preferential premiums can go ahead without backlash. 

 

EULA is always overridden by consumer laws. Bait and switch rules will apply as will refund rules. 

 

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You are entitled to ask the trader for a refund if the item you bought is:

  • not of acceptable quality
  • does not match the description
  • does not match the sample or demonstration model shown to you.

 

IMPORTANT - The following signs are illegal, for example: 'No refunds', 'No refunds after 7 days', 'We will exchange or repair or give a credit note but we do not refund'.

 

That last bit is important. There is no time limit to a bait and switch. 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 02 June 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

 

Well very meek in comparison. Hopefully this will remain unchanged.

 

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

Stewie brought this up. 

 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 02 June 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

 

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

Stewie brought this up. 

 

 

Well there are 2 different EULAs. One marked general and on for ANZ!

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new-aunz/

 

I am yet to go through both and compare, but what the hell is this?


 

 

 

 





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