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MagicalFlyingFox #21 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:00 PM

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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 02 June 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

 

Well there are 2 different EULAs. One marked general and on for ANZ!

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new/

http://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/end-user-license-agreement-new-aunz/

 

I am yet to go through both and compare, but what the hell is this?

 

Am going through now.

 

Notable differences:

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23. Warranties and Liability Regarding the Resources

23.1 We warrant that we have the right to enter the EULA and to grant you the licences to use the Content set out in section 8 "Content".

23.2 Except for and subject to any applicable Non-Excludable Rights referred to in section 5 "Non-Excludable Rights" and to the maximum extent permitted by law, we exclude any:

(a) term, condition, warranty, representation, guarantee or undertaking that may otherwise be implied into this EULA by legislation, common law, equity, trade, custom or usage; and

(b) liability for any losses, liabilities, damages, costs, charges or expenses, whether direct or indirect, you suffer or incur in connection with the Resources, whether in contract, tort (including negligence), statute or otherwise, other than injuries to health, body or life or for intentional damages directly caused by us, our representatives, employees or our vicarious agents in providing the Resources.

 This is the entirety of the warranties section, meaning we pretty much are entitled to refunds.

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 27.1 Generally. You and Wargaming agree that any and all disputes or differences whatsoever arising in connection with this EULA shall be submitted to binding arbitration in accordance with this section 27. Our agreement to arbitrate disputes includes, but is not limited to all claims arising out of or relating to any aspect of this EULA, whether based in contract, tort, statute, fraud, misrepresentation or any other legal theory, and regardless of whether the claims arise during or after the termination of this EULA. YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, BY ENTERING INTO THIS EULA, YOU AND WARGAMING ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY.

 

27.6 No Consolidated Actions. Unless both you and Wargaming agree otherwise, the arbitrator may not consolidate more than one person's claims, and may not otherwise preside over any form of a representative or class proceeding.

 

27.8 Enforceability. If subsection 27.1 is found to be unenforceable or if the entirety of this section 27 is found to be unenforceable, then the entirety of this section 27 shall be null and void and, in such case, the parties agree that the exclusive jurisdiction and venue described in section 26 shall govern any action arising out of or in connection with this EULA.

 Rewritten to explicitly say no consolidated actions instead of class actions. Not that it matters with 27.8

 

 

 

Section 5 for reference re warranties

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5. Non-Excludable Rights

5.1 Nothing in this EULA is intended to have or has the effect of excluding, restricting or modifying the application of any applicable law of any local jurisdiction that cannot be excluded, restricted or modified by agreement between us (collectively, "Non-Excludable Rights").

5.2 Non-Excludable Rights may include rights to replacements, refunds, compensation or other remedies to which consumers may be entitled and that cannot be excluded, restricted or modified under:

(a) Division 1 of Part 3-2 of the Australian Consumer Law (Schedule 2 of the Competition and Consumer Act 2010) (Cth); or

(b) the New Zealand Consumer Guarantees Act 1993.

(collectively, "Consumer Guarantees").

 

 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View Postksthegreat91, on 02 June 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

-Fan sites are NOT ALLOWED to talk bad about WG, period.

This is [edited] hilarious given people were openly selling accounts and WG used to say they couldn't ban the [edited] because it wasn't on their domain.


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MagicalFlyingFox #23 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:10 PM

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Remember, all these EULAs also have a censorship clause which gives WG the right to revoke your fansite license on WG IP.

 

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(f) the Fansite will not post material that is disparaging, illegal or infringes on the rights of any third party or that damages (or that might damage) the reputation of Wargaming or of any of the Games;

(g) except as expressly permitted in this EULA, you shall not rent, lease, reproduce, modify, translate the Fansite Content, or make an adaptation of (including without limitation fiction or visual art), or in any way exploit, any of the Content without our express written permission; and

 Talk smack, get shut down. 

Translate things without permission, get shut down. 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


FramFramson #24 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:14 PM

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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 01 June 2018 - 11:38 PM, said:

View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:

So the rage threads are already in the hundreds of pages on the other servers... Oh boy, this should get interesting.

 

Do you have a link to the thread in other servers?

 

No, it was something Jingles mentioned in one of his most recent videos.



ksthegreat91 #25 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:24 PM

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Generally no one reads EULA.

I get a feeling one of the staffs intentionally snitched WG.



The_average_tanker #26 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:24 PM

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View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 10:44 AM, said:

 

No, it was something Jingles mentioned in one of his most recent videos.

 

That were the ones regarding the preferential matchmaking tanks. checked on NA and could not see any thread regarding this.

 

 

 

 


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View Postksthegreat91, on 02 June 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

Generally no one reads EULA.

 

 

Exactly. And in effect no one would know of this. How many guys come to the forums or to reddit, etc. most of the guys would just accept the EULA without even reading it!

 

 

 

 


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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 02 June 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

checked on NA and could not see any thread regarding this.

Rugged most likely.


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MagicalFlyingFox #29 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:28 PM

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Every day I am having less and less reason to support WG as a company. 

 

Anyway, the EULAs have been laid bare. 

 

Censorship  and NO REFUNDS is a direct response to the Pref MM furore. That is WG's official response. 

 

Tell me, why should we be supporting WG? 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


FramFramson #30 Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:49 PM

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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 02 June 2018 - 12:24 AM, said:

View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 10:44 AM, said:

 

No, it was something Jingles mentioned in one of his most recent videos.

 

That were the ones regarding the preferential matchmaking tanks. checked on NA and could not see any thread regarding this.

 

I can see where you might be confused in looking for a Russian thread on the NA forums.

 

EDIT: I was referring to the pref MM threads in the first place. The point is the players are ALREADY this angry - who knows where things go from here.


Edited by FramFramson, 02 June 2018 - 02:09 PM.


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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 02 June 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

 

Exactly. And in effect no one would know of this. How many guys come to the forums or to reddit, etc. most of the guys would just accept the EULA without even reading it!

 

Practically no one reads the eula before signing / resigning up. Now we know why wg is not saying anything to its customers, they intend to go through with this. Conan and our other administrators are being used by WG.
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FramFramson #32 Posted 02 June 2018 - 02:11 PM

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It's still mindboggling to me that there's been no official release from ANYONE in a senior position in the company, even if it's just a paragraph of boilerplate corporate weasel words that boils down to "This is what we're doing whether you like it or not. If you don't like it, there's the door. P.S. We value all our customers and their feedback."

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MagicalFlyingFox #33 Posted 02 June 2018 - 02:13 PM

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View PostFramFramson, on 02 June 2018 - 04:11 PM, said:

It's still mindboggling to me that there's been no official release from ANYONE in a senior position in the company, even if it's just a paragraph of boilerplate corporate weasel words that boils down to "This is what we're doing whether you like it or not. If you don't like it, there's the door. P.S. We value all our customers and their feedback."

 

The EULA is an official release. 

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


southerner #34 Posted 02 June 2018 - 02:22 PM

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This link id for the current ToS for wargames since 15/08/2015, to me it reflects the current EULA

 

worldoftanks.com/en/content/docs/terms_of_service/

 

After 15/06/2018 i will be reading the new ToS very closely.

 

If all this goes through and the shit hits the fan...... well

 

 


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FramFramson #35 Posted 02 June 2018 - 02:31 PM

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 02 June 2018 - 01:13 AM, said:

 

The EULA is an official release. 

 

In a sense...

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well i would expect a shit storm to be brewing from some well known names in the next week or so

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ksthegreat91 #37 Posted 02 June 2018 - 02:56 PM

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Someone's actively trying to provoke the fan base now.

These things are happening in quick succession.

 

Keep fanning the flame before it dies out?



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This information was emailed to players on April 27 including an updated privacy policy in line with the new EU regulations to take effect on May 25.  As noted in the email there is a separate EULA for Australia and New Zealand to reference directly the Consumer protection laws in those countries.

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View Postwasaabi, on 02 June 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

This information was emailed to players on April 27 including an updated privacy policy in line with the new EU regulations to take effect on May 25.  As noted in the email there is a separate EULA for Australia and New Zealand to reference directly the Consumer protection laws in those countries.

 

So that means WG cannot force this new eula on us players in Australia and New Zealand then wasabi ? So we dont  get our PMM tanks molested then ?
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Same topic American EULA, but from status report, with interesting responses.

 

https://ritastatusreport.live/2018/06/01/wg-na-eula/


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