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azmania3000 #121 Posted 18 June 2018 - 02:25 PM

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View PostQuasinerdo, on 18 June 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

 

No actually they don't when fighting in their tier. Why choose it? For the same reasons they choose any tank at any tier.

 

Eh well it is popular, so maybe I'm some whiney hipster that thinks the t-34 more rad, or something.........I guess anything flogging apcr, bino's and a camo net is pretty abusive in tier 5

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Tank Name: Pz IV Hydrostat

Nation: GER

Tier: V

Type: MT

Deficiencies: Less armor than Light tanks, Poor performing 75mm Kwk40/L48, Sub-par view range for its tier. Terrible pw/wt makes getting its top speed near impossible.

Suggested Improvements: Improve Gun handling. Buff Mobility so it can function as the second-line support tank it is supposed to be.

 

Tank Name: VK28.01

Nation: GER

Tier: VI

Type: LT

Deficiencies: Lost its derp gun, lost its 75mm gun performance (despite it already being poor before the patch). What remains is a large LT that literally is under-gunned, under-camoed etc. basically it might as well be a poor performing medium without hitpoints.

Suggested Improvements: Return the 105mm howitzer in a nerfed form or restore the gun rate-of-fire characteristics to allow it to have a feature over other lights.

 

Tank Name: Tiger P

Nation: GER

Tier: VII

Type: HT

Deficiencies: Ancient relic that has been power creeped

Suggested Improvements: Maybe a unique feature?  Speed boost?

 

Tank Name: Churchill VII

Nation: UK

Tier: VI

Type: HT

Deficiencies: Low speed, Poor handling, Laughable gun for its tier, Armor is irrelevant, Poor view range and misc stats.

Suggested Improvements: Applique armor/ Armor buff and a gun buff or give it a more competitive gun.

 

If this counts as mid-tier:

Tank Name: 110

Nation: CN

Tier: VIII

Type: HT

Deficiencies: Sub-par gun, armor for its tier, outclassed by other nation (IS-3/252U/IS-3A/IS-5 etc) of its tier and type. No special features.

Suggested Improvements: Increase its survivability a touch so it can poke more to trade shots with its low alpha gun. Improve mobility slightly.


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View PostEzz, on 17 June 2018 - 08:25 PM, said:

I kinda liked it. It's basically a scout with a good gun but no turret. Excellent for vision games as well as being able to actually kill things it lit.

 

I recall it missing most shots, and those that hit simply bounced, hence the frustration. Mind you I was playing with the stock gun at the time, and I've free exped the top gun during FL. Now that there's a TD spotlight I thought I'd give it another spin, this time with the top gun. Not sure that extra 10mm pen will make a huge difference, but maybe the gun handling in general will be better. Will have to see.

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Noting I did have a BiA crew in it with camo so that would have helped. 

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View PostSir_Direkin, on 19 June 2018 - 03:30 AM, said:

 

I recall it missing most shots, and those that hit simply bounced, hence the frustration. Mind you I was playing with the stock gun at the time, and I've free exped the top gun during FL. Now that there's a TD spotlight I thought I'd give it another spin, this time with the top gun. Not sure that extra 10mm pen will make a huge difference, but maybe the gun handling in general will be better. Will have to see.

 

Top gun was noticeably better in every regards. The increase in shell velocity makes it feel more accurate. Also 0.35 dispersion.

Literally all your complaints about the gun have been simply because you are using the stock gun. 

 

Also I had a female crew from the christmas event and they were getting their 3rd skill.


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 19 June 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

 

Top gun was noticeably better in every regards. The increase in shell velocity makes it feel more accurate. Also 0.35 dispersion.

Literally all your complaints about the gun have been simply because you are using the stock gun. 

 

Also I had a female crew from the christmas event and they were getting their 3rd skill.

 

Yeah wish I had remembered to redeem that crew!!!! Been grinding fresh crew as I move up the line. Only got six sense on the commander part way through the IKV stock grind.

 

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Alright, I got a lot of what I need. Thank you very much. You're still welcome to have more suggestions, I will keep checking back every now and then.

 

Again, my thanks to the serious suggestions.


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View Postazmania3000, on 18 June 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

 

Eh well it is popular, so maybe I'm some whiney hipster that thinks the t-34 more rad, or something.........I guess anything flogging apcr, bino's and a camo net is pretty abusive in tier 5

 

Could be you are a hipster :P.... t-34 is not so well known I think. T-67 has survived numerous meta  changes and is a fairly well known commodity that many have good crew on I expect too. I think it stands out somewhat because the min-max'ers haven't had to rush to another tank in this tier for a while.


 

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View PostConan, on 20 June 2018 - 11:06 AM, said:

Alright, I got a lot of what I need. Thank you very much. You're still welcome to have more suggestions, I will keep checking back every now and then.

 

Again, my thanks to the serious suggestions.

 

Hope you consider the TVP request seriously even though it is not in the tier ranges mentioned, because no tank should be this hard to play!

 

 

 

 


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View PostAlastor_N, on 12 June 2018 - 07:34 AM, said:

Tank Name: Churchill GC

Nation: UK

Tier: 6

Type: TD

Deficiencies: Right now there's no reason to play this tank at all as you can choose to play the AT8 to get up the British TD line. Mobility is too low, the capability overall is poor.

Suggested Improvements: Increase engine power by 100. Decrease the dispersion of the tank on the move, tank traverse and gun traverse by 10% respectively.

 

Looking at the thread again, I just wanted to second this one from back on the first page.

 

The Churchill GC is literally THE worst tank in the game - no exaggeration, as it has the lowest documented average win rate among all tanks in the game, by multiple measures. It has terrible stats in nearly EVERY category and it's actually a blessing that it's an orphan tank you technically don't need to play unless you're doing some weird line switching. Whatever you do with the Churchill GC, just give it SOMETHING so it can be something besides a punchline.


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View PostFramFramson, on 20 June 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

Looking at the thread again, I just wanted to second this one from back on the first page.

 

The Churchill GC is literally THE worst tank in the game - no exaggeration, as it has the lowest documented average win rate among all tanks in the game, by multiple measures. It has terrible stats in nearly EVERY category and it's actually a blessing that it's an orphan tank you technically don't need to play unless you're doing some weird line switching. Whatever you do with the Churchill GC, just give it SOMETHING so it can be something besides a punchline.

 

how about a new British TD line that leads to something amaze-balls further on which means you really have to go through the Churchill GC instead of it being some odd tangent, and so you either free EXP past it or suffer through it

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The CGC is on special right now. I really kind of wanna buy it again and take it out for lols.

 

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Tank Name: Chi-Ri 

Nation: Japan

Tier: VII

Type: MT

Deficiencies: Poor Firepower including very big silhouette

Suggested Improvements: Add the Experimental 8.8 gun that proposed on Japan Blueprint tech Industries... it has same pen as VK 3002 D would do.. also increase the armoring the little bit 



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Tank Name: M6

Nation: United States of America

Tier: VI

Type: Heavy Tank

Deficiencies: For a tank in the hull down heavy tank American line, this seems to have nothing of the sort. Quite literally a T1 Heavy that had a 90mm gun tacked onto it and was thrown into +3 matchmaking. Absolutely despised this tank when I played through it, just because it was stock T32 levels of underpowered. The Tier VI American mediums are more worthy of the title "heavy tank" than this thing. 

Suggested Improvements: Give this thing a bit of turret armour. Not really asking for T29 levels of armour, really just something that reflects what should be an upgrade from Tier V to Tier VI, not just a straight out downgrade, and with all the powercreep around its gun just doesn't mean anything when its so big and is made of paper, just reminds me of the first two Japanese heavies. 



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View PostAussieGenesis, on 21 June 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Tank Name: M6

Nation: United States of America

Tier: VI

Type: Heavy Tank

Deficiencies: For a tank in the hull down heavy tank American line, this seems to have nothing of the sort. Quite literally a T1 Heavy that had a 90mm gun tacked onto it and was thrown into +3 matchmaking. Absolutely despised this tank when I played through it, just because it was stock T32 levels of underpowered. The Tier VI American mediums are more worthy of the title "heavy tank" than this thing. 

Suggested Improvements: Give this thing a bit of turret armour. Not really asking for T29 levels of armour, really just something that reflects what should be an upgrade from Tier V to Tier VI, not just a straight out downgrade, and with all the powercreep around its gun just doesn't mean anything when its so big and is made of paper, just reminds me of the first two Japanese heavies. 

 

Oh yeah. I have a crew that's still in the T1 Heavy simply because I don't want to play the M6 (which is currently sitting empty in my garage). Sure, it has a better gun, but it's still the same gigantic hull with no increase in armour, AND it sees tier VIII. Not only that, but being in the even numbered tiers it'll be bottom tier in most games.

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View PostAussieGenesis, on 21 June 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Tank Name: M6

Nation: United States of America

Tier: VI

Type: Heavy Tank

Deficiencies: For a tank in the hull down heavy tank American line, this seems to have nothing of the sort. Quite literally a T1 Heavy that had a 90mm gun tacked onto it and was thrown into +3 matchmaking. Absolutely despised this tank when I played through it, just because it was stock T32 levels of underpowered. The Tier VI American mediums are more worthy of the title "heavy tank" than this thing. 

Suggested Improvements: Give this thing a bit of turret armour. Not really asking for T29 levels of armour, really just something that reflects what should be an upgrade from Tier V to Tier VI, not just a straight out downgrade, and with all the powercreep around its gun just doesn't mean anything when its so big and is made of paper, just reminds me of the first two Japanese heavies. 

 

View PostSir_Direkin, on 21 June 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

 

Oh yeah. I have a crew that's still in the T1 Heavy simply because I don't want to play the M6 (which is currently sitting empty in my garage). Sure, it has a better gun, but it's still the same gigantic hull with no increase in armour, AND it sees tier VIII. Not only that, but being in the even numbered tiers it'll be bottom tier in most games.

 

Far be it from me to get in the way of anyone who wants to buff one of my favourite tanks but I think there are many other vehicles that need attention before the M6. Although ask me again after everything else has been buffed.

 

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Deficiencies:its gun is the PATHETIC! 144 PEN is a joke on a tier 7 tank

Suggested Improvements: give it a gun that is equal to its tier not a tier 6 gun!



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Tank Name: M6

Nation: United States of America

Tier: VI

Type: Heavy Tank

Deficiencies: For a tank in the hull down heavy tank American line, this seems to have nothing of the sort. Quite literally a T1 Heavy that had a 90mm gun tacked onto it and was thrown into +3 matchmaking. Absolutely despised this tank when I played through it, just because it was stock T32 levels of underpowered. The Tier VI American mediums are more worthy of the title "heavy tank" than this thing. 

Suggested Improvements: Give this thing a bit of turret armour. Not really asking for T29 levels of armour, really just something that reflects what should be an upgrade from Tier V to Tier VI, not just a straight out downgrade, and with all the powercreep around its gun just doesn't mean anything when its so big and is made of paper, just reminds me of the first two Japanese heavies. 

 

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View PostPuggsley, on 22 June 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

Not the Magic Bus!!

 

Haven't played it for a while but that was one fun tank to play, albeit a support tank in nearly all situations, even top tier. A hull down specialist, and an arty magnet......

 

I barely remember my experience in the M6. Mostly because its barely memorable especially as the tank that it leads on from is MAGA

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Tank Name: IKV 103

Nation: Sweden

Tier: 5

Type: TD

Deficiencies: Gun

Suggested Improvements: AP shell instead of HEAT, some more pen.

 

 

Can't believe i forgot about this thing. It would be so much bearable if you could reliably do damage. 


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.





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