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TheBudgiesmuggler #1 Posted 30 June 2018 - 08:05 PM

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When are Wargaming going to fix the camo and spotting bug for stationary tanks, your stationary in cover with a camo net and tanks literally drive up to you invisible and the only reason you know they are there is their shooting at you while invisible?

Okay so I was in my M12 which has a spotting range of 282 metres and yet a T71 got to with 25 metres of me and only reason I knew he was there was when he shot at me then 2 seconds later he became visible.

My question is why is he able to shoot me while invisible, now there no other tanks present just him and he remained invisible well after shooting me, he was visible to me at 25 metres.

I'm quite sure this has happened to other players.

I did read the spotting mechanics about "line of sight" so the flaw is he should have been visible to me well before he fired but that didn't happen.



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I'm glad you raised this. Can you link the replay so we can look into it.

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23k games and doesn’t understand LT camo values

 

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Ezz #4 Posted 30 June 2018 - 10:20 PM

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View PostJOC469, on 30 June 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

23k games and doesn’t understand LT camo values

 

Now now, just because he's in DOGS doesn't mean he's [edited]. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let him post his replay.

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He will have gotten spotted at 50m because of proxy spotting, so that's already wrong.
Also light tanks have good camo especially on the move, and if there was two line of bushes between you and him, you pretty much have 0% chance of spotting him.

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 01 July 2018 - 05:55 AM, said:

He will have gotten spotted at 50m because of proxy spotting, so that's already wrong.
Also light tanks have good camo especially on the move, and if there was two line of bushes between you and him, you pretty much have 0% chance of spotting him.

 

He was in open terrain no trees between myself and him, he was alone so no proxy spotting I was on the southern end of Monastery. 

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View PostJOC469, on 30 June 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

23k games and doesn’t understand LT camo values

 

I don't operate LT tanks so explain what the mathematics are with a T71 on the move in open terrain with a stationary M12 with a camo net in tree's 

View PostEzz, on 30 June 2018 - 11:49 PM, said:

I'm glad you raised this. Can you link the replay so we can look into it.

 

I'd be inclined offer the replay but as your not one of the developers for Wargaming I'd rather an explanation from them as I'm quite your just a player like me and not employed by Wargaming.

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View PostTheBudgiesmuggler, on 01 July 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

 

I don't operate LT tanks so explain what the mathematics are with a T71 on the move in open terrain with a stationary M12 with a camo net in tree's 

 

I'd be inclined offer the replay but as your not one of the developers for Wargaming I'd rather an explanation from them as I'm quite your just a player like me and not employed by Wargaming.

 

Lol, take it you don't have the replay then. Not surprised. Funny the way those claiming broken mechanics never have a replay. Probably shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt. Dogs will be dogs after all.

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Seeing as you seem to have so many 'impossible moments', might I suggest you enable all replays?

 

Would certainly help if it happens again, considering this is a 'game-breaking bug'.


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View PostTheBudgiesmuggler, on 01 July 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

He was in open terrain no trees between myself and him, he was alone so no proxy spotting I was on the southern end of Monastery. 

 

if he was within 50m of you you would proxy spot him... So obviously he was further than 50m away, thus there were probably bushes between him and you.

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View PostEzz, on 01 July 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

 

Lol, take it you don't have the replay then. Not surprised. Funny the way those claiming broken mechanics never have a replay. Probably shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt. Dogs will be dogs after all.

 

I do have the replay and to be quite frank you can kiss my [edited] Ezz, keep throwing the insults, what comes around goes around....

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View PostTheBudgiesmuggler, on 02 July 2018 - 12:14 AM, said:

 

I do have the replay and to be quite frank you can kiss my [edited] Ezz, keep throwing the insults, what comes around goes around....

 

Riiiigh... so safe to assume that you're either afraid that people who understand the vision metric would be able to explain it at a glance, or you're just being a obstinate [edited] because you enjoy people disliking you.

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Just post the replay so we all can figure out what happened.

Simples. 



TheBudgiesmuggler #15 Posted 01 July 2018 - 10:40 PM

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On looking back at the replay there one tree and no bushes

 



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View PostEzz, on 02 July 2018 - 12:33 AM, said:

 

Riiiigh... so safe to assume that you're either afraid that people who understand the vision metric would be able to explain it at a glance, or you're just being a obstinate [edited] because you enjoy people disliking you.

 

not afraid just don't like you, seeing you like getting personal from the safety of your monitor....

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View PostWodka_Warrior, on 02 July 2018 - 12:35 AM, said:

Just post the replay so we all can figure out what happened.

Simples. 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4426307?secret=2a0b014d19221a78c54840ff1b1ad98c

 



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Cheers. Looking at it now. And honestly, we're not here to be WG apologists. There are without doubt broken vision mechanics since 1.0, but honestly, the number of times people said things were broken when they weren't is considerably bigger than the genuine bugs.

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Ok, the issue was that the rock to your left was blocking vision to the T71. If you then slow it down you'll see he basically becomes visible the moment he comes around the rock at which point he started shooting you. Side note but you'd started to rotate right before that which killed your camo net anyway.

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View PostTheBudgiesmuggler, on 02 July 2018 - 12:43 AM, said:

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4426307?secret=2a0b014d19221a78c54840ff1b1ad98c

 

 

The T71 came from behind hard cover and around a corner to when you spotted him.

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