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FramFramson #21 Posted 08 July 2018 - 01:28 AM

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View PostSTEM_JVM, on 07 July 2018 - 05:30 AM, said:

 

Well...T55A is actually a T-54 with a weaker Hull.

 

Man, I went all out to get my T55A and... well... I don't know if "regret" is the right word, but I played three games in it, was thoroughly unimpressed, and then went back to playing the best T9 MT, the AMX 30.

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View PostCelestiaLudenberg, on 07 July 2018 - 12:59 PM, said:

Here's two back-to-back games I just did.

 

Mid tier on a good map but typical Leopard gun handling ruining shots. Admittedly quite a boring match due to being so passive.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4433643#redshire-celestialudenberg-leopard_prototyp_a

 

Top tier but on a bad map for it where the gun [For the most part] did what it is supposed to.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4433646#siegfried_line-celestialudenberg-leopard_prototyp_a

 

So, after watching your replay, the play style of PTA is somewhat closer to Skorpion G?

We should move up with team and snipe from the most effective spot, not the redline. (plus occasionally trade shots, ambush)
Thank you for your replay:).



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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 07 July 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

I have played quite a few games in the PTA, but never went to the Leapord1

 

The lack of turret armor is a killer, and the general lack of any armor at all is a greater killer. On big maps it is a fun tank to play, but not as fun as the AMX 13 90.

 

 lol well that AMX 13 90 can also spot more effectively, just can snipe that well.

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View PostFramFramson, on 08 July 2018 - 01:28 AM, said:

 

Man, I went all out to get my T55A and... well... I don't know if "regret" is the right word, but I played three games in it, was thoroughly unimpressed, and then went back to playing the best T9 MT, the AMX 30.

 

But it has a little less dpm than that of T-54, and far more accuracy. :)

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View PostSTEM_JVM, on 07 July 2018 - 07:49 PM, said:

 

But it has a little less dpm than that of T-54, and far more accuracy. :)

 

Also slower and less hull armour. But the difference isn't huge, I know.

 

It's a T-54 that sacrifices a little of everything for that gun handling. Which tells me I probably wouldn't enjoy the T-54 either.


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View PostFramFramson, on 08 July 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

 

Also slower and less hull armour. But the difference isn't huge, I know.

 

It's a T-54 that sacrifices a little of everything for that gun handling. Which tells me I probably wouldn't enjoy the T-54 either.

Also, pta crew skill, I forgot which crew skill, commander or radio op, dont works with the 55A. 


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View PostSTEM_JVM, on 08 July 2018 - 12:46 PM, said:

 

So, after watching your replay, the play style of PTA is somewhat closer to Skorpion G?

We should move up with team and snipe from the most effective spot, not the redline. (plus occasionally trade shots, ambush)
Thank you for your replay:).

 

Yeah, play it like a Skorpion G.

 

Sit back but not redlining, you have to make sure you fully aim your shots or you will never hit anything. Try to get as much damage in before taking any hits in return, then in lategame use your HP to get in and play as the scout-medium to finish them off, but keep in mind the extremely low DPM which is made even worse due to having worst-in-class gun handling.

 

Also don't be afraid to utilize the mobility at the start of the match to get into a position where you can outspot the enemy before they get to where they're trying to go and get a couple early shots in before going into the aforementioned support role.


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To be honest, grinding most tanks stock is not a happy thing to do. If you got some free xp to spare, better spend them to upgrade your stock tanks to a decent stage.

 

Back to the PTA, I have never played the PTA before, (still stuck at SP1C, which is not a great tank even when fully upgraded).

But I have heard that there is not much going for that tank besides its penetration and mobility. It just does not fit the current meta in my opinion, you might better off play an Obj430 or a M46 for some usable armor.

 

I have seen people play the tank as a passive scout, and use bushes to their advantage to deal damage, ended up pretty good, maybe you can give it a shot.


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View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 08 July 2018 - 12:59 AM, said:

View PostFramFramson, on 08 July 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

 

Also slower and less hull armour. But the difference isn't huge, I know.

 

It's a T-54 that sacrifices a little of everything for that gun handling. Which tells me I probably wouldn't enjoy the T-54 either.

Also, pta crew skill, I forgot which crew skill, commander or radio op, dont works with the 55A. 

 

Yes, but I have a six-skill loader, so I don't mind having situational awareness trained twice.



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View PostFramFramson, on 08 July 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

Yes, but I have a six-skill loader, so I don't mind having situational awareness trained twice.

Damm, mine are like 2 1/5 skill crew. Its scary to think you're fighting opponent with solid skilled crew, especially when doing LT mission.


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View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 08 July 2018 - 04:16 AM, said:

Damm, mine are like 2 1/5 skill crew. Its scary to think you're fighting opponent with solid skilled crew, especially when doing LT mission.

 

Well, it was my first all-female crew and they also have thousands of Mutz games, so that's not as impressive as it sounds. It's nice to be able to use them across three tanks though (they are my Leo 1 crew).

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View PostFramFramson, on 08 July 2018 - 04:43 AM, said:

 

Also slower and less hull armour. But the difference isn't huge, I know.

 

It's a T-54 that sacrifices a little of everything for that gun handling. Which tells me I probably wouldn't enjoy the T-54 either.

 

And the T55A is by far the most hovermed of the "Soviet" meds........ You ain't circle jerked a tank until you have done it in the T55A.

 

Fram the T54 is a bloody joy to play, hull down (I use the 219mm pen gun which has a much faster aim time (and you don't need nearly as much HEAT) and its a hull down beast. Was one of my first T9 tanks and one I still take out just about every session.  

 

 



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I just prefer the screaming speed and solid alpha of the AMX 30. I'm happy to sacrifice hull armour for that. Who needs hovertech when your turbo engine gets you along at almost 70 anyway? If it's not as fast as a light, it's not half as fun as it can be.

 

Plus, I almost never need to fire gold in it.


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View PostFramFramson, on 09 July 2018 - 12:47 AM, said:

I just prefer the screaming speed and solid alpha of the AMX 30. I'm happy to sacrifice hull armour for that. Who needs hovertech when your turbo engine gets you along at almost 70 anyway? If it's not as fast as a light, it's not half as fun as it can be.

 

Plus, I almost never need to fire gold in it.

 

That's how I use the T54 :)

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View PostPuggsley, on 08 July 2018 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

That's how I use the T54 :)

 

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Not that I have a problem with shooting gold. But all-gold is just being lazy.

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View PostFramFramson, on 09 July 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

Not that I have a problem with shooting gold. But all-gold is just being lazy.

 

I'm a mostly AP sort of guy too, but one thing to bear in mind with the T54 (and other low alpha, high DPM RU meds) is that the shorter reloads tend to feel like you have more flexibility. So while i find in my AMX30 and leo pta i may fire a smidge less gold than in the RU meds, the reload to change is less of an issue. Small things, but something to note.

 

Personally tho i've been embracing the obj 430 of late as you get so many of the positives with 'accuracy' being the only main issue, and you only really feel that if you are trying to hit things over 300m.


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View PostFramFramson, on 09 July 2018 - 12:33 PM, said:

Not that I have a problem with shooting gold. But all-gold is just being lazy.

I think, I didnt fire a single gold round in my last 1k game with tank, even with type 4. Just how many able to do that solo run and still be useful to the team? I use gold in arty btw, for cb fire :hiding:


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Hahaha, there is one tank I run full gold in - the M53/55. If you're going to be a [edited], go allllll out!

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View PostCelestiaLudenberg, on 08 July 2018 - 02:13 PM, said:

 

Yeah, play it like a Skorpion G.

 

Sit back but not redlining, you have to make sure you fully aim your shots or you will never hit anything. Try to get as much damage in before taking any hits in return, then in lategame use your HP to get in and play as the scout-medium to finish them off, but keep in mind the extremely low DPM which is made even worse due to having worst-in-class gun handling.

 

Also don't be afraid to utilize the mobility at the start of the match to get into a position where you can outspot the enemy before they get to where they're trying to go and get a couple early shots in before going into the aforementioned support role.

 

Ok, thank you for your advice :).






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