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DanLBob #1 Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:57 PM

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Who knew!!!

 

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Alastor_N #2 Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:01 AM

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I did

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DanLBob #3 Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:09 AM

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View PostAlastor_N, on 21 July 2018 - 12:01 AM, said:

I did

 

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Yes, that's a "revolver" tank 

 


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T10 Foch 155 was only a three shot. Haven't had occasion to look at the french TD's since I returned and they aren't that common on the ground, at least not in the few high tier battles I player

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Yea the high tier french tds are all autoloaders now xD. 

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View PostDanLBob, on 20 July 2018 - 11:57 PM, said:

Who knew!!!

 

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I'm pretty sure everyone who played high tiers in the last 6 months did....


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View PostDefiance_, on 21 July 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure everyone who played high tiers in the last 6 months did....

Indeed. Those funny old days when people thought the foch b might be a bit OP... then they released the bobject and all prior concept of OP changed. It's like WG said did the good old, 'you think this is OP... hold my vodka!'


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So I know the answer but I still have to ask. How is it that suddenly the T10 can accommodate six rounds while the T9 and all the other 120mm autoloaders in the game can only manage four. "Balance" makes for some seriously [edited] shit in this game. And yet we still get completely OP stuff too.

 

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View PostDanLBob, on 21 July 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

So I know the answer but I still have to ask. How is it that suddenly the T10 can accommodate six rounds while the T9 and all the other 120mm autoloaders in the game can only manage four. "Balance" makes for some seriously [edited] shit in this game. And yet we still get completely OP stuff too.

 

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Because this is an arcade game and not a simulator?

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View PostDanLBob, on 21 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

So I know the answer but I still have to ask. How is it that suddenly the T10 can accommodate six rounds while the T9 and all the other 120mm autoloaders in the game can only manage four. "Balance" makes for some seriously [edited] shit in this game. And yet we still get completely OP stuff too.

 

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IMO, The Foch B isn't broken... It's fine as it is now...

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View PostDefiance_, on 21 July 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

IMO, The Foch B isn't broken... It's fine as it is now...

I suspect the issue people have with it is that it is somewhat reminiscent of the old waffle's ability to completely [edited] someone up in short order.


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View PostLee_Shawran, on 21 July 2018 - 12:16 AM, said:

Yes, that's a "revolver" tank

 


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View PostDanLBob, on 21 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

So I know the answer but I still have to ask. How is it that suddenly the T10 can accommodate six rounds while the T9 and all the other 120mm autoloaders in the game can only manage four. "Balance" makes for some seriously [edited] shit in this game. And yet we still get completely OP stuff too.

 

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To justify its being a tier X? An AC 48 can one-clip a same-tier tank, thus the Foch B must be able to do the same. Would be a bummer if it had the same clip damage as the AC 48.

 

Next question then I guess, why not have a 5-shell clip on the IX Foch?


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View PostDanLBob, on 21 July 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

So I know the answer but I still have to ask. How is it that suddenly the T10 can accommodate six rounds while the T9 and all the other 120mm autoloaders in the game can only manage four. "Balance" makes for some seriously [edited] shit in this game. And yet we still get completely OP stuff too.

 

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Note that I have never played the AMX 50 B so I am making the following comparison based solely on stats. So take what I have to say below with a grain of salt.

 

I suppose they could bring down the Foch B's round count to 4 to be more in-line with 120 mm autoloaders, but they'd have to buff it somewhere else (penetration, reload time, etc.). Because if they did that and left it as is, that would just make it an AMX 50 B with better gun handling but less HP, less view range, less mobility, and no turret.

 

If you think about it, the additional 2 rounds and the gun handling are the only things that make the Foch B stand apart from the AMX 50 B because it's worse everywhere else.

 

View Postmttspiii, on 22 July 2018 - 01:18 AM, said:

Next question then I guess, why not have a 5-shell clip on the IX Foch?

 

As someone who has played the single shot iteration of the Foch IX for quite a while, I can tell you that it's now a good vehicle in its tier after it got the autoloader. If they gave it 5 shots, that would make it even better in its tier than the Foch B since all you get at tier X is 6 rounds per clip, better gun characteristics, and a little more HP while everything else stays the same. You even retain the 257 standard pen you've had since tier XIII, woohoo!


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^having played the single-shot Foch for a long time, all I wanted for it was to have a bit more side armor for more staying power.

 

So when the Foch patch came in, the side armor I was asking for finally came...as well as a 50 120's autoloader. That autoloader. Dangit autoloader, all I wanted was a brawly Foch with staying power; instead I get a Foch-shaped autoloader that shoots 4 times then begs to get swarmed afterwards :(


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Heheh. Yeah I do miss the single shot days. It would have been nice if they gave the IX Foch a similar treatment to the Foch 155 where you got to keep it as a special tank with the buffed side armor for the few of us that actually liked it.


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