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_KayGeraint_ #21 Posted 26 July 2018 - 04:58 PM

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View PostUnderhook, on 26 July 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

 

5134 damage but only 208 stun = class 1.  A very good example of the importance of stun damage.

 

You do realise that's because he's top tier in a mostly t7 and 8 game? Shooting lower tiers gives you lower exp in any class...

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 26 July 2018 - 06:58 PM, said:

 

You do realise that's because he's top tier in a mostly t7 and 8 game? Shooting lower tiers gives you lower exp in any class...

 

Yes, I realise that.  Do you concede if he had done a little less damage but a reasonable amount of stun damage he would have got mastery?


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thats why its harder to ace, if you are top tier spg

 

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View PostUnderhook, on 25 July 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

Hello fellow Tankers,

I have been playing a bit of arty of late.  I'm a bit of a slow learner but I have finally worked out that doing big damage is not the most efficient way to get mastery (ace tanker) in artillery.  A balance of stun assist and raw damage is needed.  In the following video I demonstrate this by playing 2 games.  In the 1st game I do good damage and secure a "gore" medal but only get a class 1.  In the next game I do less damage but more stun damage and get mastery.  Enjoy :)

 

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View PostUnderhook, on 26 July 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

Yes, I realise that.  Do you concede if he had done a little less damage but a reasonable amount of stun damage he would have got mastery?

 

No because doing damage or stun both count towards base exp pretty much the same. Its like tracking/spotting for lights/other classes.

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 26 July 2018 - 11:29 PM, said:

 

No because doing damage or stun both count towards base exp pretty much the same. Its like tracking/spotting for lights/other classes.

 

You didn't read my post properly.


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_KayGeraint_ #27 Posted 27 July 2018 - 08:07 AM

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 26 July 2018 - 04:58 PM, said:

 

You do realise that's because he's top tier in a mostly t7 and 8 game? Shooting lower tiers gives you lower exp in any class...

 

View PostUnderhook, on 26 July 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

You didn't read my post properly.

 

You didn't read that one properly then, I have already said why he didn't get an ace and the same thing applies to stun as to damage or other assist. It doesn't matter what kind of damage it is, he still will never ace it except shooting t9s or better yet tier x. Doing more stun instead of some damage isn't going to really change much.

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I didn't read either post properly, but the key to acing clickers is finding a team map combo where you can click a lot. Clicking higher tiers and getting kills helps too.

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 27 July 2018 - 10:07 AM, said:

 

 

You didn't read that one properly then, I have already said why he didn't get an ace and the same thing applies to stun as to damage or other assist. It doesn't matter what kind of damage it is, he still will never ace it except shooting t9s or better yet tier x. Doing more stun instead of some damage isn't going to really change much.

 

Wow, so even after I said you didn't read it.  You went ahead and reposted without reading it again.


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When people don't read properly and then accuse you of not reading :facepalm:

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View Post_EzioAuditore_, on 27 July 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

When people don't read properly and then accuse you of not reading :facepalm:

 

I re read you post 3 times each time you posted.  How many times did you re read mine.  I'm guessing none


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View PostEzz, on 27 July 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I didn't read either post properly, but the key to acing clickers is finding a team map combo where you can click a lot. Clicking higher tiers and getting kills helps too.

 

I don't know, i find the key is just clicking many times. That is how i get aces. If I have to click a lot it means I've probably done a fair amount of damage + stun. I don't put much thought into who I shoot except when I see something like a skorp, RHM, Grille or the side of a Leo. Then I will actually stop playing the other game and pay attention to what I'm actually clicking at. 

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 28 July 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

when I see something like a skorp, RHM, Grille or the side of a Leo. Then I will actually stop playing the other game and pay attention to what I'm actually clicking at. 

You're over thinking it.


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View PostEzz, on 28 July 2018 - 10:58 PM, said:

You're over thinking it.

 

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 28 July 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

 

I don't know, i find the key is just clicking many times. That is how i get aces. If I have to click a lot it means I've probably done a fair amount of damage + stun. I don't put much thought into who I shoot except when I see something like a skorp, RHM, Grille or the side of a Leo. Then I will actually stop playing the other game and pay attention to what I'm actually clicking at. 

 

if we click a lot in the M04/M43 (or similar arty with low ammo storage) we will run out of ammo.  I have had quite a few games where I ran out of ammo, secured a gore medal but still didn't get Ace.


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View PostUnderhook, on 29 July 2018 - 06:00 PM, said:

 

if we click a lot in the M04/M43 (or similar arty with low ammo storage) we will run out of ammo.  I have had quite a few games where I ran out of ammo, secured a gore medal but still didn't get Ace.

 

GW Tiger runs out of ammo much more often than an M40/43. It only gets something like 18 shells. 

 

Its impossible for me to describe how I click beyond "I see tank i click tank" because that is all I do. It just happens that when I do that, I end up with high damage/stun because I'd generally do over 400 every shot.

 

I guess the other thing i do is try my hardest to hit multiple tanks at once because its funny. 

 

I mean, you should be firing within 5s of being loaded so If you aren't you're not being as effective as you should be. 

 


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 29 July 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

I mean, you should be firing within 5s of being loaded so If you aren't you're not being as effective as you should be. 

It's probably one of the things about arty that doesn't get mentioned as much. Actual tanks have a rhythm of around 8 or 10 seconds depending on reload where you are pretty much constantly working. With arty, it's click, hold some random combo of WASD for a bit, sit for a bit, check FB, check the forums, maybe do some cookie clicker to warm up, then with ~5 seconds left on your reload (dependent on aim time and stuff) you find someone else to click on, then click then repeat. The longer the reload the more relaxing that rhythm is, and hence why upper tier arty just makes sense.


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View PostEzz, on 29 July 2018 - 10:41 PM, said:

It's probably one of the things about arty that doesn't get mentioned as much. Actual tanks have a rhythm of around 8 or 10 seconds depending on reload where you are pretty much constantly working. With arty, it's click, hold some random combo of WASD for a bit, sit for a bit, check FB, check the forums, maybe do some cookie clicker to warm up, then with ~5 seconds left on your reload (dependent on aim time and stuff) you find someone else to click on, then click then repeat. The longer the reload the more relaxing that rhythm is, and hence why upper tier arty just makes sense.

 

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 29 July 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

 

GW Tiger runs out of ammo much more often than an M40/43. It only gets something like 18 shells. 

 

Its impossible for me to describe how I click beyond "I see tank i click tank" because that is all I do. It just happens that when I do that, I end up with high damage/stun because I'd generally do over 400 every shot.

 

I guess the other thing i do is try my hardest to hit multiple tanks at once because its funny. 

 

I mean, you should be firing within 5s of being loaded so If you aren't you're not being as effective as you should be. 

 

 

The M40/M43 and the GW have the same rate of fire.  The M40/M43 has 16 rounds and the GW has 15 rounds.  So, yes both tanks will run out of ammo in a good game.  The technique you describe is a lot more than just clicking on tanks.  Maybe it just comes natural to you so you don't have to think about it.


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