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Grey_Wolfe #41 Posted 27 July 2018 - 08:49 AM

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Step in right direction,

 

HT - All seem still to be weak. Either improve pens by 5-10% or buff armour to suit particular roles. Still leave weak spots for the 6s & 7s to handle

MT - Seem reasonable, but pens again need a slight upwards tweak, maybe 5%.

TD - Not sure what will make that beast competitive other than additional armour buff. Rest of stats can stay same

 

I'm glad WG will test and leave open for further improvements. Also glad they listened, even though it was hard to ignore the 100 packed MCGs screaming :)



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Fix Grille15 please.

Ezz #43 Posted 27 July 2018 - 09:29 AM

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View Postdurainello, on 27 July 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

Fix Grille15 please.

 

A very well thought out response to the issue. +1

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nuclearnz #44 Posted 27 July 2018 - 09:43 AM

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225 pen for the IS6 for a  apcr  round!

When 112 and wz111 have 250 heat rounds still wg u have no idea how 2 balance tanks.

i cant even bother saying anything else cause u just dont have a clue even if we pretty much tell u on the forums!
for instance when are u going 2 fix PLATOONING! It is the only fun thing about this game and u are pretty much bottom tier everygame!

oh sorry it isnt fun at all so why am i playing this game!

 



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View Postnuclearnz, on 27 July 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

for instance when are u going 2 fix PLATOONING! It is the only fun thing about this game and u are pretty much bottom tier everygame

Now now, they can't fix the platoon issues caused by the template MM if they are trying to fix the PMM issues caused by the template MM. One step at a time... ...


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View Postnuclearnz, on 27 July 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

225 pen for the IS6 for a  apcr  round!

When 112 and wz111 have 250 heat rounds still wg u have no idea how 2 balance tanks.

 

Yet my IS-6 is doing better than 112 despite 112 better in paper stats in every aspect. So it looks like they (at least the original WG team) are pretty good at balancing.

 

I have a longer post on this coming up...



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One thing WG seems to have overlooked is the 'refer a friend' program. Let's say you talk a friend into playing WoT then you platoon up to get the xp bonuses. It'll probably be fine until you get to tier4 where the +2/-2 MM kicks in.

At this point your new friend is going to be bottom tier most of the time, because that's what happens to platoons, and is going to very quickly lose interest in going any further. WG says that platoons can unbalance a game which is why they generally get to be 2 tiers off the pace, but the problem with this is that you a) don't bring enough hp, b) don't do enough damage and c) don't bring enough armour. So if WG wants to fix anything please fix the base MM before worrying about the PMM niche market. Just as a by the by when was the last time you ever saw the 'refer a friend' reward tanks being played, answer - never because it's just not worth it !!!



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View PostEzz, on 27 July 2018 - 01:47 AM, said:

Now now, they can't fix the platoon issues caused by the template MM if they are trying to fix the PMM issues caused by the template MM. One step at a time... ...

 

Lmao  so what ur saying is WG doesnt know how 2 multitask is it then!

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Pref MM tanks will maintain their Pref MM status, Hallelujah, that makes me soooo happy :great::great::justwait:

 

Changes to the regular MM mechanics, about  damn time, so we will see what hatches.

 

The game is looking up :medal:


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while your at it limit arty to 2 per team,

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southerner #51 Posted 27 July 2018 - 10:19 AM

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View PostCapt_Howdy, on 27 July 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

Well Im glad they are NOT removing the Preferential part of the Preferential Premiums and just making them standard premiums. And its good to see they acknowledged they stuffed up on MM, but i still dont see why they dont just reverse the MM and have it 15, 10/5 and finally 3/5/7 as a last resort ( I know you are not going to get 15 Pref Prems on one battle).
I also dont see how its going to take 6 months to fix and feel its way to long to have to wait when if something goes wrong they can fix it in a matter of days (like they did when the 3/5/7 MM first came out) I guess our Player experience and player enjoyment of the game is low on thier priority list (way down below bringing out power creep OP tanks)

I was also thinking that instead of WG bringing out Prem tanks like the KV-2(R)  (which is the same as a standard KV-2), WG should look into just bringing out skins for the tanks and maybe sell them for $10.00 per skin so you could add or remove it as you wish...I want the Sherman skin from the Movie Tank Girl...lol

 

I guess it takes time to write and test computer code and then to test it on the test server. Then take it back for improvements. WG did say 6 months max, so yah never know, we may get it in 3 months.
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View PostEzz, on 27 July 2018 - 12:43 AM, said:

 

The irony was that under the old MM it was considered a pretty strong tank. Template MM and only the die hards would even consider playing it. But hey, 7mm extra pen! \o/

It's almost as if Template MM is a problem that should be prioritized ..

 

Of course over armoured tier 8 premiums were rather less common back then also..


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T34-3 is getting buffed as a prefer MM tank

T34-2 (already inferior before this buff) ....??? 



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View PostFramFramson, on 26 July 2018 - 10:58 PM, said:

To be fair, there's still a lot of tech tree T8s with 190-200mm ish standard pen and 230-ish gold pen. So I don't think the buffs are OUTRAGEOUSLY insufficient.

 

But yes, the biggest problem and what will make or break all this isn't the stats of PMM tanks. It's fixing the underlying MM.

But then it has been raised frequently that old tech tree tier 8s are in need of some love since WG decided to go full [edited] on new tier 8s... 


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most of these changes are welcome, but as someone in RSR pointed out, i'm not sure how adding 10mm more pen would actually help any of these tanks except the SP and jag88. and it still specifically doesn't adress the issue of SP's armor plates no longer being functionally protective; at this point it's as protective as a normal Pershing, with extra redundant weight and less speed. at this point, i'd rather refund my SP IN GOLD.


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View Postipki1141, on 27 July 2018 - 09:56 AM, said:

T34-3 is getting buffed as a prefer MM tank

T34-2 (already inferior before this buff) ....??? 

 

as if WG cares about chinese tanks. they're just there so KZ has something chinese to promote. honestly if WG didn't make the deal with KZ, i doubt they'd even consider the chinese tree beyond Type 59 like back then. consider that, we might actually have Polish tanks by now if they didn't work on the chinese tree



Hezekial #57 Posted 27 July 2018 - 11:41 AM

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So why was Frontline battles SOOOO successful?

Everyone, EVERYONE had the same tier tank.

They knew who they could face.

For the sake of the ducks Wargaming change your MM.

first 3 minutes looks for same tier when server volume is over a certain amount.

Then +1-1 MM for minute 3-4.

Then +2-2 MM after that.


I wish the KV-2 could turn this quick


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Wouldn't it improve MM if WG allowed platoons to have -1, +1 instead of one tier (like world of warships?). And also stop looking for another platoon to match with?

IMO this would greatly improve the speed of MM and give players variety to choose from within the platoon.


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ksthegreat91 #59 Posted 27 July 2018 - 12:25 PM

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We all happy with the buffs to the PMM tanks.

 

But the tank should be buffed to be atleast the same as their tier 8 counter parts for it to be competitive against the new meta Premiums ORRRRRR reduce the chances of them being matched against Skorp G, Somua, ELC even 90 so on and so on.



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Well, WG decides to do something with premium tanks finally, but I've sold IS6 and Super-Pershing long before. 




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