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Dieselnuts #81 Posted 27 July 2018 - 11:57 PM

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FCM 50T changes are good, but it really needs an aim time/bloom buff. It's only a 240 alpha gun. You have to sit still and aim in a tank with no armour for almost as long as the armoured heavies in tier 7,8,9 that out trade you.

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 27 July 2018 - 04:30 AM, said:

 

Nobody drove pref MM tonk in frontline

 

I definitely saw some here and there.

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JollyEnglish #83 Posted 28 July 2018 - 11:07 AM

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View PostEzz, on 27 July 2018 - 06:31 AM, said:

You realise that effectively removes PMM from the PMM tanks tho right?

 

a sacrifice worth the making

 

 


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View PostJollyEnglish, on 28 July 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

 

a sacrifice worth the making

 

You didn't notice the last uproar when Wg raised the idea of removing it? 

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While these are nice little buffs, emphasis on 'little'. For the 122mm pref tanks, being the WZ/Alpine/112/IS-6/T-34-3, the penetration isn't really the issue, it's the gun handling and accuracy, increasing the penetration by 7mm doesn't do much if your shots never hit where they have to anyway. Buffing the aim time and accuracy by 10-15% would make a much larger improvement rather than 7mm more penetration, though the IS-6's gold pen buff would definitely need to stay.

 

Something else I've thought about, it the potential of making one of the two preferential Chinese HT's as a non-pref tank. As it currently stands there isn't really a difference between the 112 and the WZ/Alpine other than which one's armor style you prefer since these new proposed buffs to the 112 bring it on-par with the WZ for everything else. I'd like to see something like having the 112 stay pref, with the stats being buffed as they are, but then reworking the WZ/Alpine to have 225 penetration with a gold round that is still the signature high-pen HEAT round, something like 275mm like on the STA-1/2 and giving it a little buff to the hull traverse. The armor wouldn't need any changes as it is identical the the tier 9 1-4. This way there is a reason to choose one over the other, making the WZ a prem IS-3 but with the typical Chinese differences. And funnily enough this would make a far more logical tech tree tank than the 110, probably should've done that from the start imo.


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I'm curious to know why everyone is SO against single tier battles?

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View PostIronclad2nd, on 28 July 2018 - 04:36 AM, said:

I'm curious to know why everyone is SO against single tier battles?

Less gold ammo spam, less salt.

 

More sealclubbing squads, more matches dominated by OP premiums.



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Don't worry, just get a Defender-killer, the TVP VTU!

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 28 July 2018 - 05:33 PM, said:

Don't worry, just get a Defender-killer, the TVP VTU!

 

TVP VTU has nothing on the T-34-2.

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View Postksthegreat91, on 28 July 2018 - 04:45 AM, said:

Less gold ammo spam, less salt.

 

More sealclubbing squads, more matches dominated by OP premiums.

 

there is no OP premium tanks in WOT.... :D

 

anyway, i like it very much, the buff for all those pref MM premium tanks..... come on, WG, make it real, ASAP, plz..... :)


Edited by arniGX, 28 July 2018 - 05:06 PM.


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WG can do what they want now, if you agreed to the most recent EULA all your rights you previously had are gone. In the past WG pretty much couldn't touch paid content-hence premium tanks not having a single nerf for years. Now the current EULA means no player can represent a group of players in court,and no one will spend $3k+++ defending theier $50 tanks. For this reason I still have not acknowledged the new EULA.

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View PostCelestiaLudenberg, on 28 July 2018 - 05:59 PM, said:

 

TVP VTU has nothing on the T-34-2.

 

TVP VTU is the only tank capable of ruining a Defender. WG said so.

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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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I guess i am a happy [edited] ??  , after saw one of my favourite tank that is T26E4 get a minor buff that are  , right now im quite concerned about , the unique characteristic of this tank , that only see Tier 9 will get remove.. hopefuly not as it one of my favourite tank to get easy credits cause 80% of the match i get using this tank only saw Tier 8 as top tier but 100% alway have shitty team 

• Increase the penetration value of the standard shell from 192 to 202 mm.

• Increase damage per minute from 1,750 to 1,800.

• Increase dynamics and specific power from 9.9 to 12 h.p./t. 



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View PostFramFramson, on 28 July 2018 - 02:16 AM, said:

 

I definitely saw some here and there.

 

​unless it was Russian or Chinese, they were mostly easy pickings.

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for me easy solution to this problem is reducing the players 15v15 to 10v10 or less, if queing time takes like 1min or so on WG should consider this now because players are already reducing 

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Just curious the M6A2E1 standard AP is 198 pen how much more effective with it be against tier 10's with a piss weak 4 HP increase?

 



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View PostDieselnuts, on 27 July 2018 - 11:57 PM, said:

FCM 50T changes are good, but it really needs an aim time/bloom buff. It's only a 240 alpha gun. You have to sit still and aim in a tank with no armour for almost as long as the armoured heavies in tier 7,8,9 that out trade you.

 

The FCM50T was developed and sold as a unique Heavy Tank (in it's time of release), that it had the mobility and speed of a medium but the gun of a heavy tank, with of course, paper armour.

The advice from WG themselves was to start the game playing as a medium tank, rush to the advantageous firing positions on maps and dominate enemy medium tanks with your superior firepower.

 

Within just a couple of months of release, the russian medium tanks quickly became the dominant tanks, equalling or surpassing the FCM50T in mobility, speed, firepower, and had ACTUAL armour.

And if you ran into an enemy T54, well you were always just screwed anyway, it was branching to two different tier x russian meds, that every man and his dog was grinding because OP, and the tier x gun on the T54 reloaded every 5.5 seconds or so. Versus counterparts like the Leo PTA whose tier x gun was reloading every 12 seconds or so.

And the T54 had the turret armour for troll factor auto win.

 

Saying all that, in its current configuration, the FCM50T can still have some good games. If you dodge being shot at, and can snipe.


 



 


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Have people commenting on this article even read it?

 

It clearly states Pref MM is NOT being removed.



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View PostIronclad2nd, on 27 July 2018 - 11:36 PM, said:

I'm curious to know why everyone is SO against single tier battles?

 

I'm not against it, I just know it's not happening because it would literally destroy WG's business model for WoT, and I don't even mean that in a cynical cash-grabby way.

 

The game was designed from the ground up with this progression in mind. They've already cut MM from +/-3 to +/-2 (years ago), removed scout MM, and extended low-tier limited MM protection from T2 up to T3. I am pretty sure there is no more concessions they can make in tier spread of MM without undermining the entire concept of WoT as it was designed.

 

Should it have been designed another way? Well, that's a question you can ask I suppose. But it wasn't. And they're not going to overturn something that's been core to the entire business model for the entire life of the game. Not when so much of player progression depends on it.

 

Also, frankly I like the larger MM spread and miss scout MM and I'm not the only one. I just want it to be evened out, instead of being bottom tier 80% of the time in the most played tier of the game.


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Single tier would also highlight the balance issues within most of the tiers that exist nowadays.

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