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Psian #1 Posted 25 September 2018 - 04:11 PM

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Why has this game evolve to the point that people rather get kills & damage then actually try to win. Honestly 5 bonds to me is worth more than that tiny extra 500 damage from killing the last tank. </rant>

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Depends entirely on the situation. If a win is on the line then absolutely worth capping for, while if a win is assured you're basically just depriving people on your team of xp and credits as well as chances at worthwhile medals.

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If either ways a win, it's fine.

If it's between a win or a loss, that's just stupid.



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View PostEzz, on 25 September 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

Depends entirely on the situation. If a win is on the line then absolutely worth capping for, while if a win is assured you're basically just depriving people on your team of xp and credits as well as chances at worthwhile medals.

 

Yeah so... 500 more damage for them vs 5 bonds for me... hmmm... i choose me! :P

well this circumstance at least.

Oh so all WG has to do to fist this is just to evenly distribute the remaining damage and credits to the entire team in case of a cap. Simple!

Sigh, I am justifying playing the game like it was meant to be played...

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Mother_Of_All_Rommel #5 Posted 25 September 2018 - 04:25 PM

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2 things- First, turn off chat if you cant stand toxic shit in it. Second, its your game, not others. You spend your time and money on this, so [edited] what others say and call your own shot.

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Unfortunately, damage is heavily tied to exp. So, unless your team is in the brink of losing, I suggest letting the warfreaks have their damage. 

 

However, never sacrifice a win just because some idiot want to hunt down that 1 light tank with 3 minutes left in the clock.

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View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 25 September 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

Second, its your game, not others.

 

If it's a FFA then sure, but it's a team game.

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Basically, if they have a valid point (i.e. overwhelming win and the extra damage/kills means more exp in a low-risk situation), listen. Otherwise, getting the win means more and if they are salty it's their problem, not yours.

 

I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's like anal sphincters, everyone has one. It's whether you can justify that opinion with data that it becomes more than just feelings.


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personally I always go for capping (invader is sweet, plus easy bonds, HC medal only gives u 1 lol)

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I literally just had some 46%er quoting 24 hour stats to me? Um... what the hell? that's a new one.. LOL

The last 24 hrs has been hell with these missions. So many 15-0 or 15-3 losses. And the chat is disgraceful. A lot of people frustrated with the game, or they just need chat bans.

I'm really sure the automated chat ban system isn't working.


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View PostSir_Direkin, on 25 September 2018 - 04:50 PM, said:

 

If it's a FFA then sure, but it's a team game.

Dunno wat FFA is, but the team part of random is, no green on green, play by the rule, and dont try to lose on purpose. Other then that, fair game for every1.


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View PostConan, on 25 September 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

I'll tell you a secret... if someone calls me a noob, I wait till the battle results and see if he's done better than me. If he has, then I need to improve myself, if he hasn't, I just laugh at his [several words I am not allowed to say] :) 

 



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Well if you are outright winning and the enemy only has a light or a swedish td, i may cap. to draw them out. but here you are in the t-100lt. i think you were in the best tank to hunt the t92 down.

 

If the game is close i think capping is the most stupid thing you can do. some close games can be won  by capping (if there is no arty and the enemy is too afraid to spot cap) but 95% of the times it does not work.

 

Like conan said xp you earn is closely linked to the damage you do as the team. so getting some damage is always better than just capping out which gives very less xp in reality. Also gives the enemy light the opportunity to earn a medal if they are good enough.


 

 

 

 


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View Posts70blackhawk, on 25 September 2018 - 05:32 PM, said:

I literally just had some 46%er quoting 24 hour stats to me? Um... what the hell? that's a new one.. LOL

The last 24 hrs has been hell with these missions. So many 15-0 or 15-3 losses. And the chat is disgraceful. A lot of people frustrated with the game, or they just need chat bans.

I'm really sure the automated chat ban system isn't working.

 

Automated chat ban system = moderator. Please send your replays to your nearest neighborhood automated chat ban system today for review.

 

View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 25 September 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

Dunno wat FFA is, but the team part of random is, no green on green, play by the rule, and dont try to lose on purpose. Other then that, fair game for every1.

 

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View Posts70blackhawk, on 25 September 2018 - 05:32 PM, said:

So many 15-0 or 15-3 losses. And the chat is disgraceful. A lot of people frustrated with the game, or they just need chat bans.

I'm really sure the automated chat ban system isn't working.

 

Can you blame them? The level of play right now is [edited] disgraceful. So many people doing the dumbest possible things that they wouldn't even occur to you if you tried to go out of your way to [edited] everything up, and it's natural for them. I once said to a friend while playing Battlefield 3 that some people are literally too stupid to play games.

 

View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 25 September 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

Dunno wat FFA is

 

Free For All. It's one of the standard game modes in most skill based shooters (sometimes simply called Deathmatch). Then of course you have Team Deathmatch, Capture The Flag, Base Capture, etc

 

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Speaking of which, I remember there was a FFA mode on the test server some time ago. It was terrible.


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If we're winning 13-4 or something and I see a bottom tier tank on the cap, I'm going to ask him to get off.

 

Seriously, why let the one or two enemies get away when the win is already assured?


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View PostSir_Direkin, on 25 September 2018 - 06:24 PM, said:

Free For All. It's one of the standard game modes in most skill based shooters (sometimes simply called Deathmatch). Then of course you have Team Deathmatch, Capture The Flag, Base Capture, etc

 

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Speaking of which, I remember there was a FFA mode on the test server some time ago. It was terrible.

Random in WoT is pretty much team FFA :P, is that an acceptable term? You try to get the max outcome for yourself based on your ability, but you have 14 tanks that you cant shoot in the fight.


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The number of times I've experienced a game, which is there to be won by timely capping, which has been thrown away by some glory hunters after that final bit of damage...

 

Trouble is, they're up against a skilled player used to carrying.

 

As long as my team wins, I don't really care how much, or little, damage I personally get.



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View PostThe_average_tanker, on 25 September 2018 - 10:18 AM, said:

but here you are in the t-100lt. i think you were in the best tank to hunt the t92 down.

 

 

This is an excellent point. You just made me realized why I am so "upset" at being called a noob. I was actually the closest tank to the T92 and taking him out would have been trivial for the T100LT, but I wanted my 5 bonds. Muhahaha!


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View Postkielhauler, on 25 September 2018 - 09:04 PM, said:

The number of times I've experienced a game, which is there to be won by timely capping, which has been thrown away by some glory hunters after that final bit of damage...

 

 

That's the issue. The average pubbie doesn't have the ability (yet) to read what enemy tanks are still alive. They also don't account for their possible HP and whether or not they are in a good defensive position, ready to pick the "no cap kill all" players off one by one.

 

A basic rule of thumb is that if a unicum asks to stop capping, do what he says because he's got a good idea of what is going on and is probably making the right decision... and you might also be able to get some extra damage yourself. 


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