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tibeodethuong #81 Posted 29 November 2018 - 04:03 PM

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 26 November 2018 - 05:07 AM, said:

Centurion and Victoria are better than FV4202? Lol.

 

Tip: Try staying at a distance where people are shooting each other's UFP.

 

I don't bother fighting turret fight these days, because of... reasons that don't exist. But let me just put it this way: Yesterday I saw a Patton hit all 3 shots on a T55A cupola when both are moving horizontally along a ridgeline.

 

Most stats are same, but FV4202's turret is a bit weaker with thinner armor and larger weak spots. It's the fact. I don't say about player's skills, and you can't always shoot them at a distance in every situations...

 

I think it's acceptable, because the advantage is little and you can win if your skills is good: choose good positions, aim to weak spots...

 

But LT-432 is too overpowered compared with all tier 8 LTs or under, even it's difficult to kill him by MTs, HTs, or TDs because he's fast, low height and good armor.

 

In my opinion, the attraction of playing a LT is risk. You risk your life for scouting, if succeed, you are a hero, if not, you die (the chance you can survive is low). But LT-432 is an exception, can scout, can survive if spotted, even can fight and win, it's not logic and make the game too imbalanced.

 

I think it will lead bad results in the future:

- No one play other LTs except LT-432

- There are too many LT-432s in a battle, because it's not only a LT, but also a MT with better speed

- If the top tier in a battle is 8, the side with more LT-432s have many advantages, 2 or 3 LT-432 can kill most of enemy team if they play well

- And may be more...

 

So I think this LT need to be re-checked and adjusted. 

 

 



CardinalMite #82 Posted 26 January 2019 - 01:00 AM

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This is the best LT at tier 8 by far, frankly it is almost the best LT at tier 9. If I get matched up vs a tier 9 LT I don't feel particularly disadvantaged..

 

This is arguably the best money maker at tier 8 also, given if you have any skill at scouting you can good credits sitting in a bush, add great dpm, a turret that bounces, low profile  great camo hard to hit, fast, ok gun depression  great on the move gun handling.

 

Can be a great flanker and make a lot of mediums look stupid. Tough to choose between this and the Lorraine 40t for best and most fun tier 8 I have.

 

Honestly for balance reasons it should be nerfed a bit, I would suggest dpm and gun depression as the best way to do it without ruining it. Doubt WG have the balls to do it though, so I suspect they will end up selling it rarely. 

 

 


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FramFramson #83 Posted 26 January 2019 - 02:57 AM

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Yeah, the tank is amazeballs fun  - makes the Blackdog look like a piker. My favourite T8s are this, Lorr 40t, and Spaghetto.

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In fact whenever it seems I am getting into a loss streak during a session, I will play this tank to fix my win rate........ and over 4 or 5 games that is exactly what happens. 

 

To be fair I am an LT specialist and usually go well in them so it won't work wonders if you don't understand LT play style. But anyone who even remotely gets it will do well in this tank.


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LT 432 need buff for his gun, especially his penet AP, because LT M41D has penet AP 192, more than LT wz 132 has penet AP 189.... :(

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View Postgeforce_8800gt_512mb, on 09 February 2019 - 08:27 AM, said:

LT 432 need buff for his gun, especially his penet AP, because LT M41D has penet AP 192, more than LT wz 132 has penet AP 189.... :(

Lol no!


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View PostCardinalMite, on 09 February 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

Lol no!

 

yes, plz .......because, right now, the gun of LT 432 is inferior than LT m41D...... :)

Edited by geforce_8800gt_512mb, 10 February 2019 - 09:15 AM.


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Give it a reverse auto loader too. 

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CardinalMite #89 Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:15 PM

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View Postgeforce_8800gt_512mb, on 10 February 2019 - 01:00 AM, said:

 

yes, plz .......because, right now, the gun of LT 432 is inferior than LT m41D...... :)

No it isn't. At best they trade advantages. Then there are all the other factors that go into the relative strengths and weakness of the tanks. The new fotm does not suddenly make the last Rasha fotm in need of a buff. 


Edited by CardinalMite, 10 February 2019 - 06:25 PM.

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View PostEzz, on 10 February 2019 - 01:34 AM, said:

Give it a reverse auto loader too. 

 

actually, i dont like auto reloader or auto loader..... :)

 

View PostCardinalMite, on 10 February 2019 - 10:15 AM, said:

No it isn't. At best they trade advantages. Then there are all the other factors that go into the relative strengths and weakness of the tanks. The new fotm does not suddenly make the last Rasha fotm in need of a buff. 

 

LT 432 is as big as is3, so the gun must not inferior than m41D or wz 132.... :)

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View Postgeforce_8800gt_512mb, on 10 February 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

 

actually, i dont like auto reloader or auto loader..... :)

 

 

LT 432 is as big as is3, so the gun must not inferior than m41D or wz 132.... :)

Not only do you not like auto reloader or auto loader, you don't seem to like any LT over tier 6... I mean like wow, what do you do with those poor things, use them ram Maus's with?

 

The 432 is a pancake... if it was any shorter it would need platforms to headbut a gnats [edited].

 

You are aware that the LT-432 is like the statistically most successful tier 8 LT? Perhaps it is not the tank that is the problem here.. perhaps spend less time comparing it with a tank that has only just become available and more time learning high tier LT play?


Edited by CardinalMite, 10 February 2019 - 11:07 PM.

“Holiday ops is balanced for Asia because a good player opening 11 boxes will get just as many decorations as a noob opening 75..”—.Murazor new head of global festive events.

 

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Man, I've been cursed in this thing lately. Bladez and I have platooned for multiple days in a row to try and fix our win rates in our respective tanks (he's in the T-34-?, forget which one), often with a third person, and we just keep getting boned and digging deeper holes.

 

Both topping teams and playing hard, but no dice.


Edited by FramFramson, 11 February 2019 - 03:36 AM.

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CardinalMite #93 Posted 11 February 2019 - 06:43 AM

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Well it is fair to say that the meta for scouting has been disrupted with the introduction of wheeled tanks. I have noticed that in any match where the enemy team has 1 or more wheeled tanks then you may need to be less aggressive on initial passive spotting locations.

 

Basically the yolo nature of the cars is such that they can and will trip over you and in a very forward spotting location which does not have a hard cover escape route, that can get you rekt.

 

Basically do everything you can to kill the opposition LTs and then get more aggressive with the spotting.


Edited by CardinalMite, 11 February 2019 - 08:10 AM.

“Holiday ops is balanced for Asia because a good player opening 11 boxes will get just as many decorations as a noob opening 75..”—.Murazor new head of global festive events.

 

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View PostCardinalMite, on 10 February 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

Not only do you not like auto reloader or auto loader, you don't seem to like any LT over tier 6... I mean like wow, what do you do with those poor things, use them ram Maus's with?

 

The 432 is a pancake... if it was any shorter it would need platforms to headbut a gnats [edited].

 

You are aware that the LT-432 is like the statistically most successful tier 8 LT? Perhaps it is not the tank that is the problem here.. perhaps spend less time comparing it with a tank that has only just become available and more time learning high tier LT play?

 

no, u are not.....

 

i prefer agreed with auto reloader or auto loader if the LT is as small as ELC even 90, but if the LT is as big as IS3, such as this LT 432, then i disagree, i dont like it....

 

also, i dont care if the LT 432 is most successfull or not in WOT PC, all i know is the gun of LT 432 .... right now is very inferior than m41D, german bulldog or wz132.... such as shamefull.....

 

IMHO..... :)



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View Postgeforce_8800gt_512mb, on 17 February 2019 - 01:20 AM, said:

 

no, u are not.....

 

i prefer agreed with auto reloader or auto loader if the LT is as small as ELC even 90, but if the LT is as big as IS3, such as this LT 432, then i disagree, i dont like it....

 

also, i dont care if the LT 432 is most successfull or not in WOT PC, all i know is the gun of LT 432 .... right now is very inferior than m41D, german bulldog or wz132.... such as shamefull.....

 

IMHO..... :)

Glad you are using logic, facts and reason as counter arguments and not just reiterating flawed, feels and bias.


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Not sure if /s or not

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Its certainly as big as a pretty small IS3....

 

This style of focusing on one aspect at a time is probably the thing which has led to some of the more unbalanced abominations which have been released.



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View PostFishyPower, on 18 February 2019 - 12:42 AM, said:

Not sure if /s or not

Context is everything... but yes there may have been some sarcasm involved.

 

Picking out 2 attributes of a tank (especially when one literally makes almost no practical difference) as proving the most successful LT in the game is UP, is just perverse.


Edited by CardinalMite, 20 February 2019 - 10:52 AM.

“Holiday ops is balanced for Asia because a good player opening 11 boxes will get just as many decorations as a noob opening 75..”—.Murazor new head of global festive events.

 

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View PostCardinalMite, on 17 February 2019 - 01:40 AM, said:

Glad you are using logic, facts and reason as counter arguments and not just reiterating flawed, feels and bias.

 

View PostCardinalMite, on 20 February 2019 - 02:48 AM, said:

Context is everything... but yes there may have been some sarcasm involved.

 

Picking out 2 attributes of a tank (especially when one literally makes almost no practical difference) as proving the most successful LT in the game is UP, is just perverse.

 

the most successful LT is just your personal opinion only.... :)

Edited by geforce_8800gt_512mb, 21 February 2019 - 02:18 PM.


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View Postgeforce_8800gt_512mb, on 21 February 2019 - 06:18 AM, said:

 

 

the most successful LT is just your personal opinion only.... :)

No it is objective fact.

https://www.noobmeter.com/tankStats

 

Try and find a better winrate tier 8 LT..

 


Edited by CardinalMite, 21 February 2019 - 03:14 PM.





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