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Conan #341 Posted 26 November 2018 - 12:01 PM

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 26 November 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

Will we have this MM until Improved MM 2.0™ comes out?

 

Sort of... From where I am sitting, yes. Unless there are any major issues that arise. 

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View Post_Sammich_, on 26 November 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

I believe MM 2.0 will fix everything yeah?

 

Technically, the "promised" MM is MM 3.0... we're currently sitting on MM 2.0... well 2.5 for our region :P

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samibsal #343 Posted 26 November 2018 - 01:00 PM

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Anyways, on a serious note, these changes are not permanent, they are a stopgap before the ultimate MM fixes, as promised, six months in the making... 
Your feedback here does have an influence the future of MM. So thank you.

im feeling kinda bad about what kind of next mm would be.maybe they return 357 with some new templates.

but one thing is for sure 357 was,is and will be a nightmare atleast for me



MagicalFlyingFox #344 Posted 26 November 2018 - 02:05 PM

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3-5-7 is still a template, but it appears at a vastly reduced frequency. 

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


Bitter_Night #345 Posted 26 November 2018 - 11:49 PM

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Awesome you have fixed the MM for tier 8.......Now tier 10 is broken. Sitting around in que for 20 minutes in a tier 10 heavy tank waiting for a game.

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AlanAugust #346 Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:32 AM

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View PostBitter_Night, on 26 November 2018 - 10:49 PM, said:

Awesome you have fixed the MM for tier 8.......Now tier 10 is broken. Sitting around in que for 20 minutes in a tier 10 heavy tank waiting for a game.

You can never win

 

To be relevant please say on which servor you play and how many players were present.(or at what time you play)

I played more than 20 times with my E100 these past few  days on HKG  I never wait more than 3 minutes. Of course if you play at 3 in the morning on ANZ servor….

By the way I dont understand the link you make between new MM and : You can never win



SimpleXu #347 Posted 27 November 2018 - 04:38 PM

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I just wonder when the MM can be based on personal rating? 8 out of 10 games I played I was in a weak team, all red players. Please, WarGaming, please improve the MM, it really sucks right now.

I have uploaded 5 games. 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4642356#fisherman_s_bay-simplexu-lorraine_155_mle_50

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4642357#pilsen-simplexu-lorraine_155_mle_50

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4642358#overlord-simplexu-lorraine_155_mle_50

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4642359#tundra-simplexu-lorraine_155_mle_50

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4642360#steppes-simplexu-lorraine_155_mle_50

 

Please explain how can this MM be a good MM. Why I lost or Why I win?



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Personal Rating isn't really a great skill measure as it can be manipulated a fair bit and doesn't properly account for a number of player stats.

 

So, no.


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View PostFramFramson, on 27 November 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

Personal Rating isn't really a great skill measure as it can be manipulated a fair bit and doesn't properly account for a number of player stats.

 

So, no.

 

It would, however, be one way of making a skill based MM that would be automatically nullified by forcing everyone to 50%. Of course, as with every other time SBMM has been discussed, the issue of how to preserve the incentive to improve remains given the way the game rewards at the moment.

 

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View PostAlanAugust, on 27 November 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

 

To be relevant please say on which servor you play and how many players were present.(or at what time you play)

I played more than 20 times with my E100 these past few  days on HKG  I never wait more than 3 minutes. Of course if you play at 3 in the morning on ANZ servor….

By the way I dont understand the link you make between new MM and : You can never win

 

1200 players online anz is by anz standards 'good players' of course it was on the anz server. Id ranther eat my own toe than play on hk

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View PostBitter_Night, on 27 November 2018 - 06:32 PM, said:

 

1200 players online anz is by anz standards 'good players' of course it was on the anz server. Id ranther eat my own toe than play on hk

 

So, don't be surprise with 1200 players you will always wait a long time what ever the MM :(

 



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View PostAlanAugust, on 27 November 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

So, don't be surprise with 1200 players you will always wait a long time what ever the MM :(

 

 

1200 was more than enought before the MM changes, I could get a game in under a minute.

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I've had a few tier V games with bots when the number of players on the Australian server has been less than 700. In the past it would have timed out once or twice before getting a game. So +1 from me.

I still think you should show what tiers of tanks are waiting for a game, not just the types. I would adjust what tier I'm playing to get a game quicker.



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Match Making feels a hell of a lot better - so much less grinding of teeth and frustration - well done WG

 

 

 

Love the bots - I know it is controversial but I miss playing those lower tiers and can at least get matches more often now - many people rush past lower tiers and miss out on a lot of fun and learning. Its also great for the new players. Has certainly cut down on a lot of the Acid and Salt! There is a distinct improvement in behaviour which makes the lower Tiers a lot more pleasant for new players. Not sure I would want to see it in higher Tiers though with more experienced players and more dangerous tanks. Leave it to the lower Tiers.



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View PostEzz, on 22 November 2018 - 08:28 AM, said:

Where are these smart bots you speak of? I played about 15 battles in the church as part of the 753 mission thing and i don't think a single one penned me. They were literally terrible. If that's what the halloween bots were like i am rather glad i sat that out. About the only thing they are good for is farming XP and so helping new players at least progress. I can't imagine they would be teaching new players much apart from 'what not to do'.

 

Tier 5's this week; Expected a loss on Lakeside when real enemy players in an M44 + a med(?) were capping out(north cap),and our last remaining Wolverine :Bot, cooly dispatched the med, pulled back waited a bit, dodged the M44 shot ( he just missed) moved back in and killed the M44, WON BY the BOT !!! 

The Wolverine Bots are usually doing some damage and some get Kills, are they LEARNING ??? in a way the real players cannot .........

 

 



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View PostCesare777, on 28 November 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

Tier 5's this week; Expected a loss on Lakeside when real enemy players in an M44 + a med(?) were capping out(north cap),and our last remaining Wolverine :Bot, cooly dispatched the med, pulled back waited a bit, dodged the M44 shot ( he just missed) moved back in and killed the M44, WON BY the BOT !!! 

The Wolverine Bots are usually doing some damage and some get Kills, are they LEARNING ??? in a way the real players cannot .........

 

 

 

Either they're learning or some players are just that bad :teethhappy:

But which one is more believable? 


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View PostConan, on 28 November 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

 

Either they're learning or some players are just that bad :teethhappy:

But which one is more believable? 

 

With the new :Bots and the same lame players: Both are comments are Believable !!! :facepalm:

 

And new MM is making the game Fun again,

so make MM Great Again !! 

and while I'm here BRING BACK FRONTLINES !!!

Tiers 6,7,8,9,10    ANY high tier is a Great Tier For FrUnTLyyyyyynes !!!!

 


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View PostCesare777, on 28 November 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

 

BRING BACK FRONTLINES !!!

 

Soon™


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View PostConan, on 28 November 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

Soon™

So, in minimum 6 months?


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View PostCesare777, on 28 November 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

Tier 5's this week; Expected a loss on Lakeside when real enemy players in an M44 + a med(?) were capping out(north cap),and our last remaining Wolverine :Bot, cooly dispatched the med, pulled back waited a bit, dodged the M44 shot ( he just missed) moved back in and killed the M44, WON BY the BOT !!! 

The Wolverine Bots are usually doing some damage and some get Kills, are they LEARNING ??? in a way the real players cannot .........

 

The shame of losing 2v1 against a bot.

 

View PostMother_Of_All_Rommel, on 28 November 2018 - 04:29 PM, said:

So, in minimum 6 months?

 

For what it's worth, I posted a video about Frontline on common test on the first fay it came out on April 14th. It went live about maybe 2 weeks later? So, that should give you some idea.


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