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chook_on_a_stick #1 Posted 12 December 2018 - 04:24 PM

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Just curious to hear from anyone who has both the Skorpion G and the SU 130 - is one better than the other?
Which do you prefer and why?

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samibsal #2 Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:07 PM

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i bought skorp today but havnt played it yet but i can confirm that skorp is way better than su other than camo

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Skorp will likely be better until the 130pm comes on sale again and may get its mobility corrected to be 'slightly better' than the skorp.

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View PostD_Bucket_D, on 12 December 2018 - 04:24 PM, said:

Just curious to hear from anyone who has both the Skorpion G and the SU 130 - is one better than the other?
Which do you prefer and why?

Thanks

 

Skorpion G, is far more better 130 soft stat is very bad so its only fast on paper 

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Chewmatca #6 Posted 13 December 2018 - 05:20 AM

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with crappy crew in SU-130PM no sixth sense yet... Skorp crew has 4 skills.

 

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Very very similar tanks, however i think the stealth of SU-130pm will cause it to out perform the Skorp if used in the right hands. Has a much lower profile so can hide behind smaller bushes. The bush mechanic is bull**** and this tank can exploit it nicely with fast reverse.

 

I use as a front line support tank similar to my use of skorp. Kemping bush is only used EOG.

 

With current +1 -1 games this thing is way too OP, no heavy or medium at tier can out maneuver it which is utter crap. View range on heavies needs to be boosted. TDs Reduced significantly.

 

Again WG balance dept needs scribbling out.


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spacewolf #7 Posted 13 December 2018 - 06:33 AM

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Yea I'm with Chewie on this one - I think the SU130 is the better rig. I couldn't get the Skorp to work tho so take my comments at face value.

 

Doing ok in the Su tho, the camo is really exploitable. 


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View Postspacewolf, on 13 December 2018 - 08:33 AM, said:

Doing ok in the Su tho, the camo is really exploitable. 

How many vision maps are there these days?


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i feel like i am earning more cr in the su130 PM, but got no hard figures. but i got a higher win rate in the Russian and i am an average player.

 

SU130PM - 33 battles, 69.7% winrate dmg: 1260

 

skorp G - 640 battles, 51.7%winrate dmg: 1134

 

it will probably even out as i play more battles in the Russian.


 
 
 
 
 
 

spacewolf #10 Posted 13 December 2018 - 09:34 AM

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View PostEzz, on 13 December 2018 - 08:42 AM, said:

How many vision maps are there these days?

 

Yea that's a solid point, and I find the SU gun giving me the shits at times, missing shots that really should hit. But then you get stupid shots that have no right to hit - tanks over a hill and the shot somehow curves over and gets them for example, and the insanely high RNG. Yet to get a stupidly low series of rolls, but I guess law of averages says they are on the way.

 

The SU just overall feels more capable. Only a personal opinion, I'm well aware the skorp is probably the better tank on paper. But I think it is probably reasonable value at 50% off. 


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samibsal #11 Posted 13 December 2018 - 11:09 AM

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now that i played skorp the su isnt that bad other than mobility.skorp has mobility but gets spotted very offten.

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View Postsamibsal, on 13 December 2018 - 01:09 PM, said:

now that i played skorp the su isnt that bad other than mobility.skorp has mobility but gets spotted very offten.

 

The annoying bit is that this is counter to how it was promoted. Not that a mistake from WG's marketing is at all surprising, it is after all one of many others we've seen. I do wonder whether the RU side of things are at all perturbed by this, and if so whether WG will do anything about it.

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View PostEzz, on 12 December 2018 - 06:55 PM, said:

Skorp will likely be better until the 130pm comes on sale again and may get its mobility corrected to be 'slightly better' than the skorp.

 

Agreed. WG will announce they made a mistake to quell the outrage that must be happening on the russian servers.

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View Postkovacs, on 13 December 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

 

Agreed. WG will announce they made a mistake to quell the outrage that must be happening on the russian servers.

 

Yeah buff it with a couple of turbos, that will sort out the balance!

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View PostVader108, on 13 December 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

 

Yeah buff it with a couple of turbos to the point it drags off one of the new French wheeled beasties, that will sort out the balance!

 



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I don't have many games in the SU but it feels pretty good mainly due to the camo. This is not so much when camping bush, but just in general ability to move around the battlefield a little more easily. The speed of the Skorp is countered by the need to drive a longer distance to avoid being spotted and I find the SU can get into a different firing position a lot more easily.

 

Long distance shooting it feels like the Skorp is the better of the two, but I don't usually play either of them as long distance snipers.

 

  



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skorp has less pen drop over distance

fizzydrink #18 Posted 14 December 2018 - 11:07 PM

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obviously skorp is better

the only thing su is better is camo



Chewmatca #19 Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:04 AM

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Now that crew skill is up to 4th skill (133 games) i can confirm the SU-130 is a much better tank. 57% win rate.

 

Much less likely to be spotted in a variety of circumstances, lower profile makes it a lot better, great gun depression. Very good at snap shots. Both tanks firing standard ammo.

 

SU-130PM:

 

1,757 Average damage per game

859 average exp

1.69 average kills

 

Skorp, worse in every aspect, both played the same way.

 

1,538 Damage Per Game
775 average Experience

1.49 Kills per Death

 

Well done WG you have outdone the previous premium tank, how long before people are sick of this? 80% of top tanks on a tier 8 game are now pay to win? Game is wrecked.

 


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Skorp requires some aggression which the SU-130PM cannot do reliably without a full turret. 


SU-130PM is a much superior bush-whacker due to higher alpha and better camo however. 

 

 

Depends on playstyle.


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