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Aoyama_Blue_Mountain #181 Posted 26 December 2018 - 11:52 AM

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There are tanks that are good 1v1 and there are tanks good as a team

 

IS-3A is good at 1v1 and ambush. In a sustained teamfight, once IS-3A has used its 2 rounds, you get a tank with sub-par defenses (mobility) and offenses (no rammer, bad aim), or the team has to fend for themselves while the IS-3A slowly reloads. It is also bad for long range, opportunistic, peekaboo surprise snipes for the same reload and accuracy reasons, which also translates poorly as second-line damage support.

 

And most drivers I've met so far just waste the two rounds thanks to that poor accuracy.

 

Really, the method for killing IS-3A works the same as killing FV183 and Type 4/5: Bum rush it as a team and out DPM the opponent.

 

But considering people are crying against FV183 and Type 4/5 ("Omg I'm sidescraping I'm supposed to be invincible waaaah~~~~ " ), the IS-3A will forever be considere OP when it is the end of the match and the statpadders with nearly full HP see it depleted in 5 seconds 


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Silverforce #182 Posted 26 December 2018 - 01:46 PM

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Hard to believe there's some ppl who defend the IS-3A as being balanced. 

 

The mobility is still better than trash HT like KV-4 and Tiger 2. The low profile and troll armor is still there, which makes the IS-3 so potent.

 

The alpha with that RoF is still there. 

 

No rammer? Add a gun laying drive, making it aim even better than the IS-3.

 

The IS-3A gets to be a great burst tank, as well as still being a decent team tank. There's no disadvantage that's pronounced. There's no brain to using it. You reload quickly like a regular tank once you dump 3x 390 rounds.

 

It's so OP that all the big CC have made vids about it.



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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 26 December 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

There are tanks that are good 1v1 and there are tanks good as a team

 

IS-3A is good at 1v1 and ambush. In a sustained teamfight, once IS-3A has used its 2 rounds, you get a tank with sub-par defenses (mobility) and offenses (no rammer, bad aim), or the team has to fend for themselves while the IS-3A slowly reloads. It is also bad for long range, opportunistic, peekaboo surprise snipes for the same reload and accuracy reasons, which also translates poorly as second-line damage support.

 

And most drivers I've met so far just waste the two rounds thanks to that poor accuracy.

 

Really, the method for killing IS-3A works the same as killing FV183 and Type 4/5: Bum rush it as a team and out DPM the opponent.

 

But considering people are crying against FV183 and Type 4/5 ("Omg I'm sidescraping I'm supposed to be invincible waaaah~~~~ " ), the IS-3A will forever be considere OP when it is the end of the match and the statpadders with nearly full HP see it depleted in 5 seconds 

 

You do know the IS-3A has a reverse autoreloader, which means you don't simply out-DPM it. 

 

Its last-shell reload is quicker than a tech-tree IS-3 which means after it fires all 3 shots, it will out-reload a normal IS-3. 

 

Everything you say here is wrong besides the mobility. 'slowly' reloads is wrong. In a brawl, it will always have better combat capabilities to an IS-3, you do not have to poke because it is more advantageous for you to sit back and let the enemy let you reload another shell because you will have no penalty while they let you do that. 

 

In a sustained teamfight, it has all the advantages of an autoloader (the initial burst) and is still able to sustain better firepower compared to a standard IS-3.

 

 

 

how is any of this hard to understand

REVERSE AUTORELOADER MEANS 3 SHOTS AND 10s RELOAD FOR THE FIRST FULL RELOAD.


Edited by MagicalFlyingFox, 26 December 2018 - 01:48 PM.

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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


MagicalFlyingFox #184 Posted 26 December 2018 - 01:50 PM

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Also due to the turret profile, it is harder to hit the turret roof compared to a standard IS-3

Edited by MagicalFlyingFox, 26 December 2018 - 01:50 PM.

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


CardinalMite #185 Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:11 PM

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 26 December 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

 

About as many as a match where map control and late game carry potential counts.

 

As I have said, in a close brawl this tanks is obviously very dangerous, but people would be foolish to think they just have to push 'w' and have epic games every time. Anyway, you should buy one. I won't be

 

 

No one said (except you here) that you just have to press W and get epic games every time. If you think as many matches are won by a tank with late game carry potential vs matches won simply because the snowball effect then your credibility just disappeared. 

 

And precisely where have I stated I had any interest whatsoever in owning this tank and why would that have any relevance to the discussion? I literally stated that I don't like slow heavies and they don't suit my playstyle at all, preferring LTs and mobile mediums. This is why I wonder if you even read what others write...

 

 


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FramFramson #186 Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:49 PM

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View PostCardinalMite, on 26 December 2018 - 01:11 AM, said:

your credibility just disappeared.

 

... implying there was any credibility left to be lost...


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Honestly I was more interested in getting the LEF-h arty and E-25 in my boxes as well as premium time and gold. What did frustrate me was that I own the Object 252u and now  have an identical Defender rather than the conversion to gold.

 

Guess I can sell or trade the object 252u and save on the camo cost :P

 

I did receive an IS3A however have not been in-game so no chance to play it yet.



 

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They wont nerf it, so dont bother.

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What happened to this thread BTW, why no more complaints? There are lots of these tanks playing the game now after all?

 

Guess the CCs overstated the 'OPness' of this tank....

 


 



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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 08 January 2019 - 03:04 AM, said:

What happened to this thread BTW, why no more complaints? There are lots of these tanks playing the game now after all?

 

Guess the CCs overstated the 'OPness' of this tank....

 

Or maybe the post right above yours has more to do with that...


Edited by FramFramson, 08 January 2019 - 04:14 PM.

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 08 January 2019 - 08:04 AM, said:

What happened to this thread BTW, why no more complaints? There are lots of these tanks playing the game now after all?

 

Guess the CCs overstated the 'OPness' of this tank....

 


 

 

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View PostHoleinthehead, on 08 January 2019 - 03:14 AM, said:

 

Flog something something dead something ............

 

Funny you should mention that, since WG figures that because the game's not dead yet, they can keep flogging it (and us).

 

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 08 January 2019 - 08:04 AM, said:

What happened to this thread BTW, why no more complaints? There are lots of these tanks playing the game now after all?

 

Guess the CCs overstated the 'OPness' of this tank....

 


 

Not much point in just restating what has already been said,  it's not as if WG will ever listen to CCs, testers etc.. They never have really.

 

Even when WG end up nerfing  or removing from sale (well until they decide to sell it again) an OP tank they only do it months after release and never upon advice from the CCs and testers beforehand.

 

But hey it could be that only you are right and all the skilled CCs are not... that could happen... sure.


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Sequence of events fun what I recall...

 

Stats released, community "interesting but lol wg, you got the reloads back to front. Only an idiot would put it that way " 

 

Goes to ST,  community "lol, these idiots are either stupider than we gave them credit for or greedier than we gave them credit for" 

 

Announced going live... In loot boxes...  Even QB loses it. 

 

And bolyx wonders why no one bothers trying to help wg avoid mistakes!?! 

 


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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 08 January 2019 - 08:04 AM, said:

What happened to this thread BTW, why no more complaints? There are lots of these tanks playing the game now after all?

 

Guess the CCs overstated the 'OPness' of this tank....

 


 

 

Its a new month......

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Interesting to look at Quickybabies stats regarding the IS3A

 

http://www.wotinfo.net/en/vehicles?selecteditem=vehicles&canonical=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wotinfo.net%2Fen%2Fvehicles&playerid=500127528&server=EU

 

Compare the IS3A average damage (1839) vs other T8 autoloaders -  SomuaSM (2318) and the Emil1 (2835). In fact interesting how he does more damage most of his other tier8 tanks

 

 



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Yeah because quickybaby didn't play it before the buff at all.

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View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 10 January 2019 - 03:37 PM, said:

Yeah because quickybaby didn't play it before the buff at all.

 

52 battles overall in that tank. And in a tank that not suits his playstyle.

And if we gonna hazard guess that he played 'new' IS-3A mostly in test server, then yes, probably majority of that 52 battles is pre-buff.

 


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View PostEzz, on 24 December 2018 - 09:47 PM, said:

 

If you've been a good boy you should close your eyes and fill your heart with joy and then Santa will come too! 

 

"too"? who was first to bury him in err..... snow?

 

Brutal is just disappointed it's not a MT :child:

 

As for the IS3-A If Im in a tier 7 or a stock/rubbish tier 8 (eg 110) I avoid it until its blown its wad at which point if possible I'll try to take it down. At range I don't find it any worse than a number of other tanks thankfully but up close - especially with premium rounds it's still problematic. Enough so to warrant altering reload times or reversing the reload timelines? Not sure. Stats should balance out after a while I think once players stop getting one load off an dieing because they presume it's a bigger beast that it actually is.



 

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