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yoshii_minami #1 Posted 27 December 2018 - 05:07 PM

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So.... As the title says. I seriously wish, WG start to nerf and rebalance the OP Defender as it has been breaking tier 8 matches, and the game can be simply predicted with which side has more defenders on their team.

And looking at the data of the amount of players after WG started selling that OP Defender, WG actually starts losing a lot of their players. And assuming that WG lose their profits if the amount of players are decreasing, both us (players) and WG have nothing to lose, thus a win-win solution. (WG doesn't even have to spend anymore money since everything is digital)

 

Assuming that WG won't nerf the defenders, they will need to think really hard about how to improve the other tier 8 tanks to be able to compete equally or similarly to the defender, thus completely change the balances of the other tanks which will take a looooong amount of time.

 

I demand WG to nerf the defenders as they are seriously having bad effects on the tier 8 to 6 matches. Give 2 options to the player who owns the tank to:

  1. Refund players with full gold worth
  2. Option to trade them with any other tier 8 premium

 

And about the premium tank regulations

I suppose a lot of us see a lot of newbies playing on their high tier premium tank, and that is seriously annoying since they still doesn't know the basics of the game, yet purchase a high tier premium tanks and thus become a burden to the team.
I think making a regulation/requirements restricting new players to get high tier premiums will sort this out.

for example, make a requirement which as follows:

Minimum amount of battles: 2000

or

At least have 1 tier 8 tanks in the garage

or anything that can prevent fresh newbie from playing high tiers without the proper knowledge.


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DanLBob #2 Posted 27 December 2018 - 05:26 PM

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Doesn't having something like the Defender being OP help to compensate for the cluelessness of the "fresh newbie customers"?

 

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K4BeeTee #3 Posted 27 December 2018 - 05:44 PM

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"I demand"....lol

yoshii_minami #4 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:34 PM

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Assuming the newbie doesn't have the knowledge on how they should use the tank properly, it doesn't matter how OP the tank is, he is a burden.

On the other side, assuming they are lucky enough to get into a city map, things might change and ended up doing well despite the lack of knowledge.

Since even new players know they should back down when they're under fire and hide behind buildings

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AKASHA178 #5 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:34 PM

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View Postyoshii_minami, on 27 December 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

So.... As the title says. I seriously wish, WG start to nerf and rebalance the OP Defender as it has been breaking tier 8 matches, and the game can be simply predicted with which side has more defenders on their team.

And looking at the data of the amount of players after WG started selling that OP Defender, WG actually starts losing a lot of their players. And assuming that WG lose their profits if the amount of players are decreasing, both us (players) and WG have nothing to lose, thus a win-win solution. (WG doesn't even have to spend anymore money since everything is digital)

 

Assuming that WG won't nerf the defenders, they will need to think really hard about how to improve the other tier 8 tanks to be able to compete equally or similarly to the defender, thus completely change the balances of the other tanks which will take a looooong amount of time.

 

I demand WG to nerf the defenders as they are seriously having bad effects on the tier 8 to 6 matches. Give 2 options to the player who owns the tank to:

  1. Refund players with full gold worth
  2. Option to trade them with any other tier 8 premium

 

And about the premium tank regulations

I suppose a lot of us see a lot of newbies playing on their high tier premium tank, and that is seriously annoying since they still doesn't know the basics of the game, yet purchase a high tier premium tanks and thus become a burden to the team.
I think making a regulation/requirements restricting new players to get high tier premiums will sort this out.

for example, make a requirement which as follows:

Minimum amount of battles: 2000

or

At least have 1 tier 8 tanks in the garage

or anything that can prevent fresh newbie from playing high tiers without the proper knowledge.

 

its not op anymore, if u guys knew whats going to come on shop in future 

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Bomb_From_The_Sky #6 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:34 PM

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If Defender 252U is OP, buy it

Holeinthehead #7 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:35 PM

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You do realise they just flooded the server with IS 3 A's ?

 

They will do something about it if the russian servers make enough noise maybe .

Then stroll into our forums and say " see we do listen "

 

We are not worthy ....

 

 


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Man, I'd LOVE for WG to offer me the chance to swap my 252U with another premium which was actually interesting.

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View PostAKASHA178, on 27 December 2018 - 05:34 AM, said:

 

its not op anymore, if u guys knew whats going to come on shop in future 

 

I don't like the sound of this...

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Alita_My_Angel #10 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:57 PM

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WG will most likely not nerf a premium tank, end of story.

They have been through enough after nerfing the Type 59, don't think they want to go through it once again.


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Holeinthehead #11 Posted 27 December 2018 - 06:59 PM

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View PostAlastor_N, on 27 December 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

WG will most likely not nerf a premium tank, end of story.

They have been through enough after nerfing the Type 59, don't think they want to go through it once again.

 

Indeed , so will continue to release more op premium tanks . I DEMAND MY LOWE BE BUFFED AND MADE OP !!!!!!

 


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Alita_My_Angel #12 Posted 27 December 2018 - 07:55 PM

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View PostHoleinthehead, on 27 December 2018 - 06:59 PM, said:

 

Indeed , so will continue to release more op premium tanks . I DEMAND MY LOWE BE BUFFED AND MADE OP !!!!!!

 

 

Lowe has already got some armor buffs (and DPM buff? not sure), it is in a better place now.

I'd much rather see the T34 getting buffed, it's DPM is abysmal, its armor and mobility can't compensate for it.

The gun stats are good, good penetration and damage, but the gun handling is not exactly good.

 

It is pretty irrelevant in the current meta, how often do you see a T34 anyway, I would rather play the Patriot than the T34. Though I lose a bit of turret armor, I gain mobility, DPM and utility.


Edited by Alastor_N, 27 December 2018 - 07:55 PM.

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AKASHA178 #13 Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:12 PM

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View PostFramFramson, on 27 December 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

 

I don't like the sound of this...

 

u didnt hear it from me, nooo they are not op they are normal, IS3A vs def who wins lol and yet def is op hahha anyway stay tuned for some new tanks 

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Aoyama_Blue_Mountain #14 Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:14 PM

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Remember when they said 50 TP was OP

Noobs don't snipe because they are good at snipe; noobs snipe because they can't do anything else / People don't lose because they lemming; people lemming because they are losers

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When you are not losing because you outnumber the enemy, your other flank is losing because they are outnumbered; it's just math

Law of mirror: When you are holding a 1v6 against the enemy, you own team is also getting 6v1 held by the enemy

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AKASHA178 #15 Posted 27 December 2018 - 09:49 PM

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check this out more auto-loaders :trollface: yea pllllllzzzzzzz nerf op defender lol :teethhappy:

http://forum.worldoftanks.asia/index.php?/topic/28338-more-than-400-new-vehicles-are-still-planned-for-wot/page__st__1080__p__1784308#entry1784308


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If I could sell you mine for 20 bucks I would.  I hate the Defender, have not played it in over a year, even with the new matchmaking. The gun is horrible and everyone knows how to pen it now.


Edited by BrutalOlyx, 27 December 2018 - 10:59 PM.


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View PostAKASHA178, on 27 December 2018 - 06:34 PM, said:

 

its not op anymore, if u guys knew whats going to come on shop in future 

 

Autoloader T32? Unhistoricaized T-103?

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OP tanks sometimes doesn't exist today remember ( GOLD ROUNDS SPAMMERS ARE EVERYWHERE )

Holeinthehead #19 Posted 28 December 2018 - 03:31 AM

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View PostHoleinthehead, on 27 December 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

View PostAlastor_N, on 27 December 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

WG will most likely not nerf a premium tank, end of story.

They have been through enough after nerfing the Type 59, don't think they want to go through it once again.

 

Indeed , so will continue to release more op premium tanks . I DEMAND MY LOWE BE BUFFED AND MADE OP !!!!!!

 

 

View PostAlastor_N, on 27 December 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostHoleinthehead, on 27 December 2018 - 06:59 PM, said:

 

Indeed , so will continue to release more op premium tanks . I DEMAND MY LOWE BE BUFFED AND MADE OP !!!!!!

 

 

Lowe has already got some armor buffs (and DPM buff? not sure), it is in a better place now.

I'd much rather see the T34 getting buffed, it's DPM is abysmal, its armor and mobility can't compensate for it.

The gun stats are good, good penetration and damage, but the gun handling is not exactly good.

 

It is pretty irrelevant in the current meta, how often do you see a T34 anyway, I would rather play the Patriot than the T34. Though I lose a bit of turret armor, I gain mobility, DPM and utility.

 



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View PostFramFramson, on 27 December 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

 

I don't like the sound of this...

 

Indeed, very ominous 





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