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WarMamy #1 Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:58 PM

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I have over 220,000 xp on my bc12t still haven't used to research any tanks. 

 

Can't decide which to research, although the top of the tech tree event has the 13 90 on a discount, I don't seem to be impressed by it. I'm not even sure which tank should I go for.

 

Iv'e always wanted the BC 25t but, turns out not everyone can make that tank work. I see only Uniplebs play it, and are actually good at it. 

 

For me personally, I like DPM tanks, tanks with a god like rate of fire. So I did some looking into and people say that the AMX 30 is a good tier 9 medium however it's tier 10 big brother is a big let down in its tier.

 

Although I'm going to buy the t54 to get to the forgotten OP 140 (DPM of course) not sure if I it would be worth to get the AMX 30 that plays the same. Not so sure of whats the letdown about.

 

Anybody with some experience playing those tanks, a word of advice ?

 



Alita_My_Angel #2 Posted 14 January 2019 - 06:07 PM

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If you like DPM tanks, go for the AMX 30.

If you want to play auto-loading medium tank with big clip damage, go for the Bat Chat

If you want to play a light tank, still go for the Bat Chat (Tier 10 one)

If you want to play a scout tank, go for the AMX 1390


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13 105 is a better tank than the bat for pubs. For organised battles, BC is better.

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I enjoyed the 13-90 and the 13-105 is pretty much the same, just a bit improved.

The BC25tAP was a fun grind, and the BC25T is a beast of a ummm light/med combo. 

 

Maybe go the 25T line as you can play it both as a med and a light, but either is a good choice.

Can't comment on the 30 or 30B as I have the 30 unlocked but havent started on it yet. 



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Which of these would seem to be good/best in regards to meta?

 

Also will there be any new tanks to separate these tanks so that they get their own line. Since too many tanks seem to be branching out from the 12t, don't you think ?

 

Keep playing the 12t until you 3 mark it(Which seems to be impossible in my case) or grind enough xp to unlock all 3 tanks. 

 

over 600,000 xp in 1 single tank ?? Why though ? 



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13 90 is a great scout.

 

AMX 30 is the best MT for it's tier in the game. YEAH, YOU HEARD ME.


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Seriously, it has an LT's PtW and can go 65 kmh, It has the nut DPM and very good alpha with reasonable gun handling/accuracy, and it has very usable armour. It's the perfect trifecta of MT qualities. Camo's not too shabby either.

 

Sure it doesn't have an autoloader or siege mode or any other gimmick, but as far as conventional MTs go, you could not ask for more. 


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View PostFramFramson, on 14 January 2019 - 07:43 PM, said:

Seriously, it has an LT's PtW and can go 65 kmh, It has the nut DPM and very good alpha with reasonable gun handling/accuracy, and it has very usable armour. It's the perfect trifecta of MT qualities. Camo's not too shabby either.

 

Sure it doesn't have an autoloader or siege mode or any other gimmick, but as far as conventional MTs go, you could not ask for more. 

 

Yea, I know that. But will it be worth to buy this and unlock a bad tier 10?

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Depends if you enjoy playing tier 10.

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View PostMerwin_Atticus, on 14 January 2019 - 08:03 PM, said:

 

Yea, I know that. But will it be worth to buy this and unlock a bad tier 10?

 

You can always stick to the tier 9 instead and not bother getting the tier X. Nothing wrong with that. You grind the game to get the tanks you want, even if they aren't tier X.

 

But if you're going for CW, BC25t > 13 105 > AMX 30.

- BC25AP is funballs, a true baby batchat to train you on how to play the BC25t properly, so your concern about underperforming in it isn't a problem if you fully grind the BC25AP and learn from its gameplay. Some people actually sold their BC25t's to play the BC25AP as replacement (it was a bet and he lost), so close their gameplay performances are.

- Same thing goes with 13 105; 13 90 is a potent tank now that WG smoothened its gun handling and removed 2 shells from the clip, not that it's a problem since those 2 removed shells would miss anyway on old 13 90. It's a split though, some want the 13 90, others want the 13 105; both are good.

- One more thing about AMX 30: its pen is rather weak-ish for its type of tank so keep than in mind when versing against HT's or USSR hovermeds


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Perhaps it would help if you stated how you get on generally with light tanks and autoloaders?

 

I can't comment on the AMX 30 however I liked both the 1390 and the BC25 AP for different reasons. 

 

However what suits me does not necessarily suit you. 

 

The best decision for you will most likely come down to what style of tank is most comfortable for you.


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If you plan on getting all of them anyway, get the 13 90 while its on discount. 

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View Postmttspiii, on 14 January 2019 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

You can always stick to the tier 9 instead and not bother getting the tier X. Nothing wrong with that. You grind the game to get the tanks you want, even if they aren't tier X.

 

But if you're going for CW, BC25t > 13 105 > AMX 30.

- BC25AP is funballs, a true baby batchat to train you on how to play the BC25t properly, so your concern about underperforming in it isn't a problem if you fully grind the BC25AP and learn from its gameplay. Some people actually sold their BC25t's to play the BC25AP as replacement (it was a bet and he lost), so close their gameplay performances are.

- Same thing goes with 13 105; 13 90 is a potent tank now that WG smoothened its gun handling and removed 2 shells from the clip, not that it's a problem since those 2 removed shells would miss anyway on old 13 90. It's a split though, some want the 13 90, others want the 13 105; both are good.

- One more thing about AMX 30: its pen is rather weak-ish for its type of tank so keep than in mind when versing against HT's or USSR hovermeds

 

Yeah, I actually played the AMX 30B for a little while. Thoroughly unimpressed as it was the same tank as the T9, only slower, but with a little more DPM (the increase in armour is negligible). Essentially I feel like both tanks are T9.5, so might as well play the one for which that's an advantage rather than a drawback!

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View PostFramFramson, on 14 January 2019 - 09:40 PM, said:

13 90 is a great scout.

 

AMX 30 is the best MT for it's tier in the game. YEAH, YOU HEARD ME.

 

 

Standard B and Skoda would beg to differ.



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1390 is a great scout, its one of my fav T9 tanks and it works great in TX battles.

 

For CW its really only the BC25t which will get a look in.



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View PostSevatar_, on 15 January 2019 - 08:20 AM, said:

 

Standard B and Skoda would beg to differ.

430,  t54 and e50 aren't too shab either. 


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Don't get the 30B. Stop at the tier 9 for that line, you'd only proceed if you had the time and the spare creds.

 

The bat gets a lot of CW time, and the 13 105 is a popular little tank, but for all purposes if you have CW as an end goal you'll need a batchat. 


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If you made the BC12t and its predecessors work well and enjoy their playstyle then I would recommend the AMX 1390 leading to the 105. Both play as a progression of what you already know and are good tanks.

 

The BC25 AP is great also but you do have to change your playstyle a fair bit compared to the BC12t. The BC25t even more so is a specialists experience. I did well in the AP but had a horror start in the BC25t which I am gradually digging out of now. Tier 10 meta isn't quite the same as tier 9.

 

 


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I have been grinding the bc12t last few months, got all 3 researched.

Grinding the bc 25t AP currently and just started on the amx 13 90 since was on discount. I plan to get the amx 30 sometime later too.

 

 

If you liked the amx 13 75, 12t playstyle, then 13 90 should fit in very well and prolly 105 too.

25t AP with almost similar, can play like a LT with a more power 6 round clip that can really chew up those meatier tanks.

Reload needs getting uses to tho, can't shoot anything even when u spot them off the start, unlike 12t or 13 90.

Still struggling with the decision to reload when you have less than 3 shells in the mag.... to continue to shoot and risk running out of shells or to reload and risk being chased before loaded. with the 12t/13 90, I reload all the time even if I shoot 1 round and have 3 left, I will reload when there is a short lull cos 3 rounds can't really kill a tank.


 

Had a game last night where there were 4 LTs each team, I was in my 13 90, there were two 13 90s and two 105s on our team.

I was doing my thing on my side of the map, but the other 3 amxs who were working the other side of the map really swept all before them and cleaned up everything.



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View PostSevatar_, on 14 January 2019 - 05:20 PM, said:

 

 

Standard B and Skoda would beg to differ.

 

I've played Standard B and did well in it. AMX 30, no contest.

 

Also I much prefer the the Prog 65 to the Standard B.


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