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JOC469 #21 Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:57 AM

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 19 January 2019 - 05:49 PM, said:

Seems no-one is willing to answer your question OP.

 

Play the OZ server running against bots, and you will have plenty of good games when top tier even if you are not the greatest player.

 

Actually there isn't an answer for the OP's question. Whilst there may well be plenty of low tier tanks with low requirements for WN8, if the player lacks the requisite skills and does not contribute to the game then the games will still be losses, and he will still not perform.

 

Of the tier5 tanks and below the OP has played where they have a >50% win rate, the ONLY tanks to have a Damage ratio >1 are:

NC-31 (tier1) - 1.25 - 2 games

M2 (tier2) - 1.17 - 78 games

SU-18 (tier2) - 1.07 - 4 games

Lorr 39L AM (tier3)- 1.11 - 19 games

SU-5 (tier4) - 1.37 - 6 games

Hetzer (tier4) - 1.08 - 42 games


 

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BrutalOlyx #22 Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:12 AM

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OP specifically requested suggestions for noob friendly tanks, not unhelpful patronizing comments and insults.

 

The guy just want to enjoy some good games, give him a break, and suggest some tanks ffs

 

 

 

 


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By the way OP, "Relatively easy to Ace" and "Good at dealing damage" are often mutually exclusive, because any tank which is good at dealing damage will be played by more players and generally have higher requirements to Ace it or earn other performance badges.

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 19 January 2019 - 09:12 PM, said:

OP specifically requested suggestions for noob friendly tanks, not unhelpful patronizing comments and insults.

 

The guy just want to enjoy some good games, give him a break, and suggest some tanks ffs

 

The point JOC and others are making is that you could give a fellow the cruisiest car to hoon around in, but if he's never learned to drive that's still not going to make any difference to the number of old ladies he runs over.


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The sooner a player realises that by and large they are the key to doing well, not the tank, the sooner they're likely to start trying to learn.

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View PostFramFramson, on 20 January 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

By the way OP, "Relatively easy to Ace" and "Good at dealing damage" are often mutually exclusive, because any tank which is good at dealing damage will be played by more players and generally have higher requirements to Ace it or earn other performance badges.

 

What happened to IS-3A's server stats anyone knows?


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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 20 January 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

 

What happened to IS-3A's server stats anyone knows?

 

http://wot-news.com/game/tankinfo/en/sea/ussr/R115_IS-3_auto

 

ASIA meta causes tanks with armour to perform worse on our server compared to every other server. 50.5% compared to 52.4% of EU and similar in NA + RU.

Winrate curves follow the same trends along all servers, but up 1-2% across all in other servers to ASIA.


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Is SU-26 no longer the penultimate seal clubber and statpadder it once was?

Ezz #29 Posted 21 January 2019 - 02:34 PM

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View PostKelilipan, on 21 January 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Is SU-26 no longer the penultimate seal clubber and statpadder it once was?

 

Nah it copped a significant nerf. In fact the low tier stuff were about the only arties where you'd call it a nerf. By tier 6 most feel like they were buffed. Of course the lefefefeh is as broken as ever thanks to WG's revenue > balance policy.

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 19 January 2019 - 07:49 PM, said:

The Russian tier4 SU85B running the 57mm rapid fire gun

 

What the...?

 

I have no words.

 

Next you will be saying use the Derp on the T40.


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View PostProfanisaurus, on 22 January 2019 - 05:00 AM, said:

 

What the...?

 

I have no words.

 

Next you will be saying use the Derp on the T40.

 

The SU-85B with the 57mm has the best DPM for it's tier, daylight second. The 57mm is the same gun as the Tier6 A43 - shoots every 2 seconds with high velocity, highly accurate gun with fast aimtime.

85 Alpha - you will kill a tier3 tank in 4 seconds. The APCR is 189, so you will almost autopen the front of a KV-220-2. Excellent Camo, good viewrange, very mobile

 

You sit a noob behind a bush with decent line of sight, even a noob will easily get 10-15 pens with that gun. Most people don't know how OP this tank is, does not get played much, so easy to get an ace tanker.

 

Bang, Bang, Bang every two seconds, it;s a meme tank - and few is even aware of how amusing that tank is to play

 

OP wants suggestions, I give them

 

 

 

 



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My point was that for about 80 less DPM I'd rather have the Alpha from the 85, particularly for someone looking to improve stats.  Utilising DPM isn't exactly a beginner skill and is less viable in the current meta.

 

Hosing a KV-220 is easy if you don't auto aim.



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Fair enough give the OP what he asks for, but in this case its pretty obvious he doesn't understand the question to ask.

 

Even the SU85B will be pretty rubbish in the hands of a less skilled player. Any tank will be. Because the player is the most important thing in this game.

 

That's why the "get better" responses are by far the most helpful thing to the OP. Do those and his stats will improve. Get the best tank and you might get an improvement but probably not.

 

Stats in this game are pretty relative. If you are a poorer player you will still not do as well as a good player in the same tank. The tank will not be able to give you much of a bump. 



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View PostPuggsley, on 22 January 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

Fair enough give the OP what he asks for, but in this case its pretty obvious he doesn't understand the question to ask.

 

Even the SU85B will be pretty rubbish in the hands of a less skilled player. Any tank will be. Because the player is the most important thing in this game.

 

That's why the "get better" responses are by far the most helpful thing to the OP. Do those and his stats will improve. Get the best tank and you might get an improvement but probably not.

 

Stats in this game are pretty relative. If you are a poorer player you will still not do as well as a good player in the same tank. The tank will not be able to give you much of a bump. 

 

Reminds me of the rather memeful 'good player in a TVP KTU will beat a shitter in a defender'. Despite that being a dubious one.

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I found the DW2 (teir 4 German HT) fun and seemed to be top tier a lot. Seemed to be able to bully lower teirs and is faster than the Matilda. 

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View PostBrutalOlyx, on 20 January 2019 - 02:12 AM, said:

OP specifically requested suggestions for noob friendly tanks, not unhelpful patronizing comments and insults.

 

The guy just want to enjoy some good games, give him a break, and suggest some tanks ffs

 

 

 

 

 

The op is asking for something for nothing .

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View PostDooga, on 22 January 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

I found the DW2 (teir 4 German HT) fun and seemed to be top tier a lot. Seemed to be able to bully lower teirs and is faster than the Matilda. 

cheers

 

OMG no not that piece of junk. Surely you're trolling?

 

On the plus side, the OP isn't blaming MM or blaming teams.

find a tank that you enjoy that will also help you learn, and learn to do better with it.

i'd recommend the soviet medium and heavy lines.

 



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OP, make sure you have (at least) 6th sense skill for your commander. This skill is, IMO, the most significant factor from the crew point of view, no matter what tank you are in. Also to answer your question directly - M8A1 in T4 is good, it's essentially 80% of a T67 (T5, next in the line). And play in a platoon with players who are better than you; that's what I do. T2/3/4/5 are good fun for mucking around in, no matter you win, lose or draw. This is a game, it's supposed to be fun, so play whatever give you the most fun (and hopefully this will be somewhat related to what might help your team mates have fun also).

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Actually worth asking the OP the question.
What's the state of the crew skills on your top tier tanks?

We've seen before players who are constantly putting new crews into new tanks and end up playing most of their games with an additional handicap.

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View PostThingol, on 22 January 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

OMG no not that piece of junk. Surely you're trolling?

 

On the plus side, the OP isn't blaming MM or blaming teams.

find a tank that you enjoy that will also help you learn, and learn to do better with it.

i'd recommend the soviet medium and heavy lines.

 

 

dw2 got buffed a ways back, so it’s definitely not the horror it used to be...quite the fun tank but it’s no matilda, the pen ain’t brilliant and the armour is workable




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