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neokai #41 Posted 29 January 2019 - 11:00 PM

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View PostPuggsley, on 29 January 2019 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

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no issue with game mechanics

 

only issue with having the ability to use 3rd party mods illegal or legal regardless.

 

Having WOT be open to allow anything to be run in it is just dumbfounding to me....so unless WG run there tests against players to see if they are running illegal mods on a daily basis. whats to say they arn't using the Tundra Mod right now in 20 of there games then turn it off for 20 and then put it back on etc etc..if you just remove the ability to implement or use any type of modification 3rd party or otherwise into the game it would stop and reduce any kind of cheating now and in the future..

 

there will always be cheats - so why not eliminate the majority and lock down the game to be unmodified if not done by WG directly with patches.


 


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The compelling arguments against banning mods altogether include (but are not limited to) - 1. cheaters will simply find other ways to inject their software into the game; 2. a lot of the features we currently enjoy were introduced to the game because they were inspired by the mod makers & 3. A lot of mods provide benefits which the game currently does not (examples given earlier in this thread).

Even as a vanilla player I can see the vast amounts of benefits (not game changing but convenience and aesthetics) that legit mods can make. 

 

Regarding cheats - personally I hope the "scanning system" or whatever WG uses to find the cheaters gets turned up to maybe every 3rd or 5th random battle, as well as every single competitive game (CWs, Tournaments etc). I am no computer expert but that would be ideal - pending on resources etc. Assuming it is reliable.


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1. This is why things like nprotect exist. These are updated often, sometimes multiple times in a day. Do they stop hacking entirely? No. Do they make it harder to hack, limit the duration a hack works, and make hackers crash? Yes.

 

The "omg I can be hack as long as people has internet" goes down to whether it is worth the time and money

 

2 & 3. No denying that some mods made it into the game. Precisely because they give benefits. Benefits like - Precise damage direction indicator that you can use to fire back at bushes. And damage indicator that tells you who shot u even if the enemy wasnt spotted (Now it doesn't tell u if the shooter hasn't been revealed in Fog of War but you can still tell by the damage, not the point anyway because most battles are no FoW). A reminder that the latter feature was actually once illegal by WG, so I was surprised when WG decided to ownself illegal ownself in the game update.

 

And benefits like zoom out mods that allow you to see past corners.

 

Safeshot was illegal on NA at one point. White wreck used to be legal. People debated whether reload timer was legal (now it is illegal, I hope). HP on minimap is still legal I think? Headlight mod was something once suggested, until people realize it also reveals the direction the tank is facing, and in principle it is no different than having a headlight mod on the turret which in principle is no different from a mod which extends the barrel which in principle is no different from a tank model mod

 

See the problem here?

 

Has tracer mod (all forms) finally been banned btw?


Edited by Aoyama_Blue_Mountain, 30 January 2019 - 08:07 AM.

Noobs don't snipe because they are good at snipe; noobs snipe because they can't do anything else / People don't lose because they lemming; people lemming because they are losers

Do not confuse team strength with individual strength; a single enemy killed in a 1v3 is worth more than two enemies killed in a 4v2 / Lanchester's Square Law predicts in a 2v1, the side with 2 will end with 1.5 tanks remaining, so if you won with less than that remaining, you're actually noob, not pro

When you are not losing because you outnumber the enemy, your other flank is losing because they are outnumbered; it's just math

Law of mirror: When you are holding a 1v6 against the enemy, you own team is also getting 6v1 held by the enemy

Noob self-balancing theory: When you release a good tank, enough noobs will flood to play it, until the server stats become average again


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Cheaters will still cheat and while software detection is great, other players helping by reporting can make it a lot easier
 
 

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View PostNigerianGirthLord, on 30 January 2019 - 09:25 AM, said:

Cheaters will still cheat and while software detection is great, other players helping by reporting can make it a lot easier

 

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Noobs don't snipe because they are good at snipe; noobs snipe because they can't do anything else / People don't lose because they lemming; people lemming because they are losers

Do not confuse team strength with individual strength; a single enemy killed in a 1v3 is worth more than two enemies killed in a 4v2 / Lanchester's Square Law predicts in a 2v1, the side with 2 will end with 1.5 tanks remaining, so if you won with less than that remaining, you're actually noob, not pro

When you are not losing because you outnumber the enemy, your other flank is losing because they are outnumbered; it's just math

Law of mirror: When you are holding a 1v6 against the enemy, you own team is also getting 6v1 held by the enemy

Noob self-balancing theory: When you release a good tank, enough noobs will flood to play it, until the server stats become average again


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View PostNigerianGirthLord, on 30 January 2019 - 01:25 AM, said:

Cheaters will still cheat and while software detection is great, other players helping by reporting can make it a lot easier

 

Just find the forums did we ? Post frenzy ...........

 

You can report what you think is a hack until it Snows in Dubai . Without clear and actual proof it is pointless .


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I'm also curious how great the detection actually is. 

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 29 January 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

1. This is why things like nprotect exist. These are updated often, sometimes multiple times in a day. Do they stop hacking entirely? No. Do they make it harder to hack, limit the duration a hack works, and make hackers crash? Yes.

 

The "omg I can be hack as long as people has internet" goes down to whether it is worth the time and money

 

That also applies to WG though. They need to make at least a token effort so they can say they're doing something, but a comprehensive arms-race may not be something they think is worth the money, as galling as that may sound to us.

 

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 30 January 2019 - 08:05 AM, said:

 

 

Has tracer mod (all forms) finally been banned btw?

 

Not sure, but I havent used it since it got illegal. Back then there was a mod to bring the tracer back to patch 0.9.15 sizes to make the tracer really big (like a Star Wars battle);  I also used a different tracer mod to know if I'm being shot with sprem; now since everyone's shooting sprem anyway it's really unnecessary.


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The whole mod thing is a tricky one... I don`t really play anymore but i use to use aslans..then just Vanilla.. as I could not be arse downloading a new version every fooking week.. The only way is to scan the PC and see what the memory is doing and in today's world that is just a nono ., never going to happen. And like others have said there will always be cheats for games. Rune.. It will always be part of gaming  and don`t forget WoT IS about making money, that`s it nothing more..MONEY.

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View Post_Rune, on 22 January 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

It has been some time since the last round of *banned* accounts due to the use of illegal mods, now with more regular Chinese server players on the ASIA/ANZ server they had no sanction or illegal mod use on their own server (this isn't directed at them ether just an addition)

 

Any update?

 

Also when is the (not being able to see enemy team player names) coming into affect? removal of the ability to use XVM and stat tracking on enemy tanks. 

 

I have a much better idea, why not remove the ability to run any 3rd party software that isn't in the core game of world of tanks to just simply remove any chance or ability of a player getting an advantage over another.

 

Been running vanilla for years and will continue to do so.. the game in its current format offers everything a player needs currently....

 

Thoughts? community? WG?

 

 

p.s this isn't a dig at anyone cheating or running illegal mods I just thought it had been some time since the last update on WG taking so called action on cheats.

 

you do know that you have always been able to turn off player's names in setting>marker>enemy team

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View Postcamdy, on 01 February 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

you do know that you have always been able to turn off player's names in setting>marker>enemy team

 

It doesn't prevent them from seeing yours tho so would not help the issue of xvm targeting.

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View Postcamdy, on 01 February 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

you do know that you have always been able to turn off player's names in setting>marker>enemy team

That is not what Rune is talking about. This is on the topic of XVM focus and clan targeting. In organised play you still need name tags to call focus fire but in pubbies it is not necessary.



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Isnt the abuse even worse in organized play?

 

In real world, Hitler wouldn't be driving around in a tank with a flag that says "Have you seen Carl?"


Edited by Aoyama_Blue_Mountain, 01 February 2019 - 12:38 PM.

Noobs don't snipe because they are good at snipe; noobs snipe because they can't do anything else / People don't lose because they lemming; people lemming because they are losers

Do not confuse team strength with individual strength; a single enemy killed in a 1v3 is worth more than two enemies killed in a 4v2 / Lanchester's Square Law predicts in a 2v1, the side with 2 will end with 1.5 tanks remaining, so if you won with less than that remaining, you're actually noob, not pro

When you are not losing because you outnumber the enemy, your other flank is losing because they are outnumbered; it's just math

Law of mirror: When you are holding a 1v6 against the enemy, you own team is also getting 6v1 held by the enemy

Noob self-balancing theory: When you release a good tank, enough noobs will flood to play it, until the server stats become average again


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View PostEzz, on 01 February 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

 

It doesn't prevent them from seeing yours tho so would not help the issue of xvm targeting.

 

View PostTwit_, on 01 February 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

That is not what Rune is talking about. This is on the topic of XVM focus and clan targeting. In organised play you still need name tags to call focus fire but in pubbies it is not necessary.

 

just so i can make sure i understand this,do you mean they see your name and yell target such an such? but doesn't the name show up with a default client in clan wars?

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 31 January 2019 - 11:38 PM, said:

Isnt the abuse even worse in organized play?

 

In real world, Hitler wouldn't be driving around in a tank with a flag that says "Have you seen Carl?"

 

Reminds me of a game Bladez and I played on Glacier a week or two ago. At the end of the match, which we won, he belatedly replied to a comment I'd made back at the beginning of the game with "I don't know how you could have ever doubted UltimateTankMasterGod and Poopmeister69". 

 

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View PostEzz, on 30 January 2019 - 08:10 PM, said:

I'm also curious how great the detection actually is. 

 

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View PostFramFramson, on 02 February 2019 - 05:17 AM, said:

 

Reminds me of a game Bladez and I played on Glacier a week or two ago. At the end of the match, which we won, he belatedly replied to a comment I'd made back at the beginning of the game with "I don't know how you could have ever doubted UltimateTankMasterGod and Poopmeister69". 

 

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From what WG is saying on the server page the ban hammer has fallen again, 308 first time offences and 90 odd perma bans. So the cheaters have been kicked right in the feels again, and that should clean them up for a while. Until the next lot come along.
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