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Is the Chieftain CW meta?


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Poll: BEST CW TANK LMAO (19 members have cast votes)

Which tank do you think is the best pick for CW?

  1. 907 meta forever (12 votes [63.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

  2. Vkk anchors best (1 vote [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  3. New meta Chieftain (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  4. M60 Jesus lol (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  5. 121Bad (1 vote [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  6. T95E6 cause pure DPM is super relevant (1 vote [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

Best tank for pubstomping?

  1. 907 to get turret penned by lower tiers (7 votes [36.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.84%

  2. Vkk to throw keyboard out window when you miss (3 votes [15.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  3. Chieftain to get clicked to death (4 votes [21.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  4. M60 to carry and win all your games (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  5. 121Bad... (2 votes [10.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  6. T95E6 to dumo 3000 damage onto your opponents every minute (1 vote [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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Darksider267 #1 Posted 07 February 2019 - 07:41 PM

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It's time to pick CW rewards, and the Chieftain is a prime candidate for top spot. The way I see it, it's basically a mix between the Super Conqueror and the 277. It has the strengths of both, but fills neither role quite as well. 

Pros:

-Fuckton of gun depression lets it work ridges like a Super Conq. 

-Turret armor is stupidly good. It doesn't have the HE weakness of the Super Conq, or the turret cheek weakspot. No cupola helps as well. 

-Gun is in between the 277 and Super Conq. Decent handling, decent alpha, decent DPM. Neither best nor worse in any of those regards. 

-Solid mobility. It has similar hp/t, terrain resists and traverse as the fast heavies, but a slightly worse top speed of 46 hurts. 

Cons:

-The gun seems nice, but really isn't the best. 5a has alpha and DPM, Super Conq has handling and even more DPM. It's a very jack-of-all trades gun, even by the standards of jack-of-all trades guns. It can't fill the Super Conq's damage dealing role or the 5a's brawling roll as well. Meh alpha and meh DPM. 

-Autobounce UFP is nice, but not when HEAT shells eat you for breakfast. 

-Even amongst generalist heavies, it doesn't specialise. Like, at all. It can't sit in a position, live for ages and do damage like a Super Conqueror, nor can it rush into position and brawl like a 277. 

-Arty's gonna shit all over your roof. 

 

The question is, are its strengths good enough that there's a compelling reason to pick this over, say the VK or 907? Is there any point getting this tank, if you can get almost the same feeling from playing a 5a/277/Super Conq? Will it be CW meta? I think it has enough of a niche role that picking 2 or 3 on certain maps would work, but I doubt it's got enough distinguishing features to set itself apart from a very well-defined and competitive niche set by strong tanks like the 277 and Super Conqueror. 

 

Any thoughts?

 


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__Junny_ #2 Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:24 PM

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A weird thing I noticed is that the t95/Fv is actually really small.
This is makes the cupola and ufp much easier to hit as it doesn't tower over you like an Sconq does.

I also noted how the turret is placed very central on the tank.
Perhaps it won't be as comfortable working a ridge line as its forward turreted counterparts.

I wonder how intuitive sidescraping will be considering the middle turret placement




Aoyama_Blue_Mountain #3 Posted 07 February 2019 - 10:50 PM

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Well, so far first battle with both teams having one Chieftain, I can say that the armor isn't invincible.

 

Also, extremely horrible hull traverse in mud. Not that I remember what other HTs' are.


Edited by Aoyama_Blue_Mountain, 07 February 2019 - 11:00 PM.


aldwin97 #4 Posted 07 February 2019 - 11:17 PM

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People will never know the power of the new meta 907 :trollface:

Edited by aldwin97, 08 February 2019 - 12:30 AM.


AKASHA178 #5 Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:40 AM

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load HE and shoot them at back or side, 277 HE do 657 damage to back of new meta lol 

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_WorldConqueror_ #6 Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:25 AM

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View PostAKASHA178, on 08 February 2019 - 08:40 AM, said:

load HE and shoot them at back or side, 277 HE do 657 damage to back of new meta lol 

 

type 5 does 1400 to back of meta 277 lolol

K4BeeTee #7 Posted 08 February 2019 - 10:10 AM

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View Post_WorldConqueror_, on 08 February 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

 

type 5 does 1400 to back of meta 277 lolol

 

Yes and you couldn't have described one of the biggest problems in this game more succinctly.



MagicalFlyingFox #8 Posted 08 February 2019 - 10:33 AM

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Its a 5A/SConq crossover.

 

Get to position quickly and hull down. 


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Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


CelestiaLudenberg #9 Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:58 PM

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You forgot to add to "Then be out of ammo" after the "Dump 3000 damage every minute" for the E6.

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Puggsley #10 Posted 09 February 2019 - 04:26 PM

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View PostCelestiaLudenberg, on 08 February 2019 - 11:58 AM, said:

You forgot to add to "Then be out of ammo" after the "Dump 3000 damage every minute" for the E6.

 

With BIA and cola its 3713dpm....

Virtuous_Contract #11 Posted 10 February 2019 - 04:12 AM

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I havent played my chieftain yet, nor played tier10 heavies to fight against chieftains head-on. What im interested to know is: how good is the upper plate against 330-340 heat? I see from tanks.gg that on level ground it looks like the upper plate is ~350,but in practise how much are the pen-to-bounce ratios exactly?





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