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TD1 #1 Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:05 PM

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Not just because I spend the majority of my time at that tier, but there are more considerations:

 

-next to Tier 8, tier 6 is probably the most diverse of all the tiers in terms of vehicle types. Just in the US tech tree alone, there are two medium tanks, two tank destroyers, and two light tanks at tier 6, discounting premiums like the M4A3E8 Thunderbolt VII or the Fury. Add in the other nations if you wish to, and it's a very diverse palette of vehicles that are usable for this gamemode.

-Tier 6 vehicles, at least in my experience, are a lot easier to drive than tier 8 vehicles, lower tier and all.

-Sure, more likely to encounter idiotic teammates, but you can argue that idiots will be idiots no matter what tier it is. At least at lower tiers it is more excusable (if not neccesarily more tolerable) because they may have only been playing for the last 3-6 months or so.

-Everyone has at least one tier 6 vehicle (or at least, most people I am aware of has at least one), even if it's just one long-forgotten premium.

-Some of the game's most memorable vehicles lie at that tier. The KV-2 being one of them, the TOG II another, and more.

-Service costs are much more bearable than in tier 8.

 

For these reasons I personally believe that we should have a Frontline mode for tier 6 tanks. However, I want your opinion on this matter as well.



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I reckon it should rotate through tiers 5 and up. I can think of tanks from all those tiers I’d like to try in Frontline. 

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Id like to see if I can get to the other end of the map in my TOG before the timer even runs out.

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I think tier 6 FL would be pretty fun. Would be good if the FL seasons could swap between  tiers 6,7,8 every now and then to add some variety. 

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Nah, tier 6 is not diverse at all.

 

Tier 8 we have Defender, Progetto, IS-3, Caernavorn, French autoloaders, S-tanks...



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Apparently a platoon of At8's can sit in cap and be slam dunked in the face with derp guns.

 

Yeah seems legit.

 

But do you know what would be more fun ?

 

----->>>>Front Lines <> Arta Edition<<<<-----

 

1.Max out view range for all arta

2.They can spot for themselves

3.Go full [edited] playing M44's

4. Try to ram/one shot/spot/flip all that shit that one can imagine....

 

The take: No other tank classes just arta!!!!

 

No cap kill all

 

Boy would I love to see it happen.



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View PostWarMamy, on 13 February 2019 - 05:28 PM, said:

The take: No other tank classes just arta!!!!

 

 

Nah man u ain't thinking hard enough. 

 

There should be grand battles just for arty. 30 v 30 arty for arty players. 


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View PostU12D13, on 13 February 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

 

Nah man u ain't thinking hard enough. 

 

There should be grand battles just for arty. 30 v 30 arty for arty players. 

 

Grand Battles- Arta only - All tiers accepted

Tier 6-tier 10

 

Fv304s shooting at t92 HMCs and running away xD

 

And HMCs 1 shotting a bunch of tier 6 artys close by

 

Best mode ever

 

Should be an event for April fools



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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 13 February 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

Nah, tier 6 is not diverse at all.

 

Tier 8 we have Defender, Progetto, IS-3, Caernavorn, French autoloaders, S-tanks...

That is why I said next to tier 8 lmao



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Seriously though, I would love to see a tier 5-6 FL mode because that's where the majority of WW2 tanks are. And this will let me scratch the "large-scale WW2 tank battles" itch.

 

The 1 thing I'm concerned about is how to integrate it with the present Battle interface - splitting the playerbase among different modes is a bad idea unless they are part of a single queue - or wait times will shoot through the roof.


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TTK seems a bit low though on tier 6 with the "special" tanks.

Would probably need to reduce the reinforcement/spawn timers.



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You'll probably just have most people driving around in T-34/85Ms anyway.

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Tier 9s please. Relatively balanced, no p2w premiums and plenty of variety. 

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View PostSir_Direkin, on 13 February 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

You'll probably just have most people driving around in T-34/85Ms anyway.

 

Yep, T-34/85M's; perfectly balanced excess of speed, armor, and gun. Along with Bromwell plats with disintegrator DPM, Type 64 with almost-infinite view range...what could possibly go wrong?

 

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Tier 9s please. Relatively balanced, no p2w premiums and plenty of variety. 

 

overkill pen for tier 9 MT's though

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Bromwell sucks for mid/long distances and corridor so I doubt they will be of a threat

 

But 85M are pretty standard nowadays

 

Which reminds me - We don't see many gold spam yet. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

Then again I haven't played since the first day so I wouldn't know if it is a goldfest by day 2 already.



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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 13 February 2019 - 09:13 PM, said:

Bromwell sucks for mid/long distances and corridor so I doubt they will be of a threat

 

But 85M are pretty standard nowadays

 

Which reminds me - We don't see many gold spam yet. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

Then again I haven't played since the first day so I wouldn't know if it is a goldfest by day 2 already.

 

Not sure about 'fest' part but feels like indeed more player using gold when i am playing today.

Back to World of Tanks for now.


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View Postneokai, on 13 February 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:

Seriously though, I would love to see a tier 5-6 FL mode because that's where the majority of WW2 tanks are. And this will let me scratch the "large-scale WW2 tank battles" itch.

 

The 1 thing I'm concerned about is how to integrate it with the present Battle interface - splitting the playerbase among different modes is a bad idea unless they are part of a single queue - or wait times will shoot through the roof.

 

I thought splitting the playerbase into two queues is already something for the tier 8 FL we have now?

 

And yeah, the majority of the WW2-era vehicles are in that region of tiers.



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View PostTD1, on 13 February 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

Not just because I spend the majority of my time at that tier, but there are more considerations:

 

-next to Tier 8, tier 6 is probably the most diverse of all the tiers in terms of vehicle types. Just in the US tech tree alone, there are two medium tanks, two tank destroyers, and two light tanks at tier 6, discounting premiums like the M4A3E8 Thunderbolt VII or the Fury. Add in the other nations if you wish to, and it's a very diverse palette of vehicles that are usable for this gamemode.

-Tier 6 vehicles, at least in my experience, are a lot easier to drive than tier 8 vehicles, lower tier and all.

-Sure, more likely to encounter idiotic teammates, but you can argue that idiots will be idiots no matter what tier it is. At least at lower tiers it is more excusable (if not neccesarily more tolerable) because they may have only been playing for the last 3-6 months or so.

-Everyone has at least one tier 6 vehicle (or at least, most people I am aware of has at least one), even if it's just one long-forgotten premium.

-Some of the game's most memorable vehicles lie at that tier. The KV-2 being one of them, the TOG II another, and more.

-Service costs are much more bearable than in tier 8.

 

For these reasons I personally believe that we should have a Frontline mode for tier 6 tanks. However, I want your opinion on this matter as well.

 

I think if they made a tier 6 version you would find it would quickly die off in popularity, especially on this server. There only running this mode for 1 week every month because this game has a history with different game modes that aren't random battles and its that they die very quickly, which is why they're only doing a week a month so people can get hunger for it and than burn them selfs out of it than come back in a month fresh and ready.

 

And the fact is there are just way more tier 8s in this game than tier 6s so tier 6s would always be the tier that dies off if you had both making people go back to tier 8 anyway making the tier 6 pointless, plus even with the stale tier 8 meta, I think tier 6 would be even worse, it will just be Cromwell/B, OI's/KV2's, M44 arty and a few of them Chinese prem light tanks I can't remember the name of. you would also have to rework a lot of the consumables for the mode because image getting arty/air striked in tier 6s, its bad enough as it is in a light tank without they are now. Also, I don't see how service cost are an issue, the bulk amount of credits you make in this mode is insane, iv gotten 6mil i think in the last 3 days of playing it for 3 hours or so a day, because you have to factor in as well the rewards you get for leveling up in the mode plus if your like me, selling the large repair/med kits. 

 

 

Heres a matchmaking spread btw

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View PostTD1, on 13 February 2019 - 12:35 PM, said:

Not just because I spend the majority of my time at that tier, but there are more considerations:

 

-next to Tier 8, tier 6 is probably the most diverse of all the tiers in terms of vehicle types. Just in the US tech tree alone, there are two medium tanks, two tank destroyers, and two light tanks at tier 6, discounting premiums like the M4A3E8 Thunderbolt VII or the Fury. Add in the other nations if you wish to, and it's a very diverse palette of vehicles that are usable for this gamemode.

-Tier 6 vehicles, at least in my experience, are a lot easier to drive than tier 8 vehicles, lower tier and all.

-Sure, more likely to encounter idiotic teammates, but you can argue that idiots will be idiots no matter what tier it is. At least at lower tiers it is more excusable (if not neccesarily more tolerable) because they may have only been playing for the last 3-6 months or so.

-Everyone has at least one tier 6 vehicle (or at least, most people I am aware of has at least one), even if it's just one long-forgotten premium.

-Some of the game's most memorable vehicles lie at that tier. The KV-2 being one of them, the TOG II another, and more.

-Service costs are much more bearable than in tier 8.

 

For these reasons I personally believe that we should have a Frontline mode for tier 6 tanks. However, I want your opinion on this matter as well.

 

in future WG going to let other tiers to play frontline too but i dont think be under 8, the project suggestion is tier 8,9 and 10 

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View PostMadHouse10101, on 13 February 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

 

I think if they made a tier 6 version you would find it would quickly die off in popularity, especially on this server. There only running this mode for 1 week every month because this game has a history with different game modes that aren't random battles and its that they die very quickly, which is why they're only doing a week a month so people can get hunger for it and than burn them selfs out of it than come back in a month fresh and ready.

 

And the fact is there are just way more tier 8s in this game than tier 6s so tier 6s would always be the tier that dies off if you had both making people go back to tier 8 anyway making the tier 6 pointless, plus even with the stale tier 8 meta, I think tier 6 would be even worse, it will just be Cromwell/B, OI's/KV2's, M44 arty and a few of them Chinese prem light tanks I can't remember the name of. you would also have to rework a lot of the consumables for the mode because image getting arty/air striked in tier 6s, its bad enough as it is in a light tank without they are now. Also, I don't see how service cost are an issue, the bulk amount of credits you make in this mode is insane, iv gotten 6mil i think in the last 3 days of playing it for 3 hours or so a day, because you have to factor in as well the rewards you get for leveling up in the mode plus if your like me, selling the large repair/med kits. 

 

 

Heres a matchmaking spread btw

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I kindly disagree with your opinion.

 

My intent was not for the tier 6 frontline to be run alongside the tier 8 frontline at the same time. It was more to do with alternating between the two for every "episode". Say, for example, Episode 1 is tier 8, then Episode 2 is tier 6, Episode 3 jumps back to tier 8, and so on. Of course, would be nice if WG announced which tier the next particular episode will be in, say, a week beforehand.

 

Call me dense for this, but I do not see how what you said about those tanks being the only ones they will play that much of a problem. There are people like me who use whatever they please, because they either dont care about the meta, or they simply want to look different, or whatever reason.

Sure those tanks you said will be often played will be a common sight. But when-if-they die, they have to either wait for it to be repaired or use something else in the meantime while waiting for that tank to be repaired. They wont be the only ones used, I am sure of that.

 

And that MM spread just confirms what I said- it is the second most diverse tier after tier 8 (spread-wise) and the second concentration area of where players are, closely followed by tier 7, and 5 after that. Infact, tiers 5 to 8 are the only tiers with over 10% concentration according to that graph. 

As for the artillery and airstrike consumables, I think they can just tweak the damage values for it to better fit with tier 6s.

 

It has been far too long since the mid tiers, tier 6 especially, been given anything but Randoms to play in. All of the fancy stuff like Grand Battles, Ranked Battles and such are always more to tier 10. Its about time WG gives some love for those tier 6 tanks and give them a mode to play in other than Randoms.

 

 






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