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_ZanZa #1 Posted 02 March 2019 - 02:21 AM

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How bout you try making the game fair by making premium ammo consume additional WEIGHT instead of additional credits.

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Ezz #2 Posted 02 March 2019 - 02:34 AM

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Premium ammo isn't unfair tho. Anyone can use it. If you're concerned about p2w, if they actually balanced the tier 8 prems it would be a start. 

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_ZanZa #3 Posted 02 March 2019 - 03:08 AM

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Yea yea I know anyone can buy it, let me rant.



_ZanZa #4 Posted 02 March 2019 - 03:21 AM

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It's really nice when somebody gets a 100% chance to pen instead of a 70% chance just because they threw more money at the game, it feels really good to be beaten by these people. I'm surprised this game isn't more popular because of how fun this aspect of the game is.

Meanwhile AU server dies at midnight despite other games retaining thousands of users. Useless, such potential in this game too, it's really good IMO, just ruined by greed.


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mttspiii #5 Posted 05 March 2019 - 08:04 PM

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View Post_ZanZa, on 02 March 2019 - 02:21 AM, said:

How bout you try making the game fair by making premium ammo consume additional WEIGHT instead of additional credits.

 

I've done the maths for you ;)

 

mttspiii, on 16 August 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

How heavy must a gold round be? I can think of three options:

 

a) As the title says, albeit scaled down by a factor of ~10. The BatChat gold round costs 12 gold, so it should weigh 12/10 = 1.2 tons per shell. A HEAT clip would weigh down the BatChat an extra 6 tons, and a full complement of HEAT on the BatChat would make its AMX-40 predecessor proud. Suffer, ye gold-spamming unicum BatPlats!

 

d) A flat 0.5 ton per gold round loaded, because it's the easy-peasy sledgehammer way. A full BatChat HEAT complement would weigh an extra 15 tons.

 

c) As heavy as literal gold! An Obus G (the stuff a BatChat shoots when in HEAT) is approximately 105mm in diameter, and is slightly longer than x3 its length, so that's ~2727.59 cm3. Gold has a density of 19.32 g/cm3. A golden Obus G would thus weigh...53 tons? BatPlats would, like, totally digin to the ground with these new gold shells!

 

Of course, for every gold round shot in battle, the total weight of the tank decreases by the weight of the gold round, so you start off slow when you begin gold-spamming and then regain your agility a bit more and more the less gold rounds you lug around.

 

With choice C, a BatChat could weigh as much as 1,600 tons, and a KV-5 would be ~3,500 tons (not kilograms, tons)


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View Post_ZanZa, on 02 March 2019 - 07:21 AM, said:

It's really nice when somebody gets a 100% chance to pen instead of a 70% chance just because they threw more money at the game, it feels really good to be beaten by these people. I'm surprised this game isn't more popular because of how fun this aspect of the game is.

Meanwhile AU server dies at midnight despite other games retaining thousands of users. Useless, such potential in this game too, it's really good IMO, just ruined by greed.

 

...except half of the gold I get hit by is from sub 48% oxygen thieves.  It's not pay to win if the player has no idea how to win.
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neokai #7 Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:59 AM

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Moved to more appropriate sub-forum.

 

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chillview23 #8 Posted 06 March 2019 - 11:42 AM

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First time I've seen a weight balancing mechanic suggestion. Interesting I guess?

 

As for the subtopic, WoT isn't Pay to Win, but slap me with mayonnaise if it doesn't give you so much more options. 

The whole pay for convenience concept has basically rocketed to a point where it wouldn't make sense to not purchase a premium tank. Most of the people who don't feel the effects have been playing for years. It wouldn't be a hard stretch to call a grind from tier 1 all over again an uphill battle with the significantly less effective means of acquiring creds. Also Tier 8s are disgusting. 

 

I still remember the whole playing Tier Vs for creds days. Painful times. 


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EXterminateX #9 Posted 23 April 2019 - 03:41 AM

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Without Prem Bullets the game will die.. players will only buy prem tank once but with the prem bullets they will keep on buying it as soon as they have run out of prem bullets

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Profanisaurus #10 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:45 AM

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Except that 'gold' rounds don't actually cost you gold. They are just a more expensive credit rounds and if you are not stupid or hopeless at the game (say sub 47%) you are not buying credits so wargaming make no actual income out of them.

EXterminateX #11 Posted 23 April 2019 - 02:30 PM

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Except that 'gold' rounds don't actually cost you gold. They are just a more expensive credit rounds and if you are not stupid or hopeless at the game (say sub 47%) you are not buying credits so wargaming make no actual income out of them.

 

Heh Bro they are buying gold and convert it to credits then buy premium bullets.

Ezz #12 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:53 PM

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View PostEXterminateX, on 23 April 2019 - 04:30 PM, said:

 

Heh Bro they are buying gold and convert it to credits then buy premium bullets.

That's what he said.


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View PostEXterminateX, on 23 April 2019 - 03:41 AM, said:

Without Prem Bullets the game will die.. players will only buy prem tank once but with the prem bullets they will keep on buying it as soon as they have run out of prem bullets

 

WoT 7.0 lived with only 10% sprem loadout though.

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View Post_ZanZa, on 02 March 2019 - 03:21 AM, said:

It's really nice when somebody gets a 100% chance to pen instead of a 70% chance just because they threw more money at the game, it feels really good to be beaten by these people. I'm surprised this game isn't more popular because of how fun this aspect of the game is.

Meanwhile AU server dies at midnight despite other games retaining thousands of users. Useless, such potential in this game too, it's really good IMO, just ruined by greed.

 

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Profanisaurus #15 Posted 24 April 2019 - 04:52 AM

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View PostEXterminateX, on 23 April 2019 - 06:30 PM, said:

 

Heh Bro they are buying gold and convert it to credits then buy premium bullets.

 



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View Postmttspiii, on 23 April 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

 

WoT 7.0 lived with only 10% sprem loadout though.

 

Thats wot 7.0 

 

 


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they are using gold to indirectly buy prem bullets. smartass.

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Ezz #18 Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:48 PM

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Double whoosh to the power of double whoosh.

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View Post_ZanZa, on 02 March 2019 - 02:21 AM, said:

How bout you try making the game fair by making premium ammo consume additional WEIGHT instead of additional credits.

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codebasher #20 Posted 23 July 2019 - 02:16 PM

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Any suggestion that encourages people to buy less gold ammo is never ever going to fly...

 

How about Gold ammo causes only 30% damage of regular ammo.  This would make gold spamming much less painful for victims and Wargaming would love the extra income.


Edited by codebasher, 23 July 2019 - 02:17 PM.





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