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Profanisaurus #21 Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:28 AM

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It's the vibe.

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FramFramson #23 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:19 AM

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View PostEzz, on 07 May 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

View PostMagicalFlyingFox, on 07 May 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

I find those using their keyboard in this game to be cheating. Everyone should be playing using macros on their mouse. 

Mouse? You cheat! It's track pads only!

 

Man, I remember trying to play X-Wing vs TIE Fighter using a trackpad.

 

At least it wasn't one of those Eraserhead "mice" the were the precursors to trackpads.



mttspiii #24 Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:46 AM

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View PostEzz, on 08 May 2019 - 05:54 AM, said:

The irony is the game was growing for years with gold ammo freely available. But when wg decided to start adding lots of over armored behemoths without weakspots, as well as changing to op prems, the game went into decline. But yeah, let's blame the gold ammo... And people who use mice.

 

Back then, sprem was an option. When Conqueror and IS-8 turrets can be penned by tier X guns reliably. Which is why sprem wasn't that much of a problem (for WG), except for 105mm HEAT being the best mid-tier anti-tank shell, 183mm HESH punching through IS-7 LFP's, and 330-pen T-54's punching through the then-toughest things in the game like T30 and Maus turrets. It was bad enough that WG fixed the 105mm HEAT and 183mm HESH, but of course since the last is a Russian thing WG can't fix it.

 

So it was not so bad up until WG decided to MAGA it. Make Armor Great Again. Naturally this means putting 252U, 430U, 268v4 into the game where sprem is needed and the targets are virtually unflankable because they traverse too fast while having stupid Soviet side armor. So people were forced to sprem it up, and thus made practically all other armor irrelevant. Except for the Objects of course.


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samibsal #25 Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:14 AM

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i think that premo should be situational not constant

CardinalMite #26 Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:26 AM

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View Postsamibsal, on 08 May 2019 - 02:14 AM, said:

i think that premo should be situational not constant

It is.


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samibsal #27 Posted 08 May 2019 - 01:55 PM

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View PostCardinalMite, on 08 May 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

It is.

mmmmmmm

i think i said most people dont do like this especially prem account+prem tank ussers.


Edited by samibsal, 08 May 2019 - 01:56 PM.


DEADMEAT82 #28 Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:31 PM

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Like it or not, gold rounds provides a fighting chance against tanks that are normally out of reach. Like T8 medium tank gun against T10 heavy front. Dont ask, i keep getting ugly MM

Hype_ #29 Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:34 PM

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let me just

https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-tanks/world-of-tanks-2019-premium-ammo-rebalancing/

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CardinalMite #30 Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:57 PM

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View Postsamibsal, on 08 May 2019 - 05:55 AM, said:

mmmmmmm

i think i said most people dont do like this especially prem account+prem tank ussers.

Not true.

 

Doesn't matter whether you run premium account or not, you are always short on credits for modules or new tanks.

 

Therefore unless you literally buy silver credits from the shop as part of bundles (which is terrible value for money and not sustainable unless money is literally no object), you always want to use premium  ammo sparingly to maximise credit earnings (or at least minimise losses on tanks that have terrible standard pen).

 

Sure there are some tanks that require shooting premium ammo more; but that does not mean that overall just because someone owns premium tanks and/or has premium time that they only shoot premium ammo.

 

Probably there is someone out there that does that, but it does not make them successful players. Watch the vast majority of average to good player streamers and you  will see them using premium  ammo selectively  on most (except certain meme) tanks.

 

Does that mean premium ammo is balanced well in the game? Hell no.

 

Does it mean that the over armouring on many tanks is ok? Also hell no.

 

Should premium ammo be rebalanced? Absolutely, but only in conjunction with tier for tier rebalancing of health pools and/or armour values of strongly armoured tanks.

 

Until that happens there will be situations where it is appropriate to shoot premium. But it is not an autopen I win button.

 

I also doubt the promised premium rebalance will happen anytime soon. 


Edited by CardinalMite, 08 May 2019 - 02:59 PM.

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SiKiN #31 Posted 08 May 2019 - 04:38 PM

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View PostHype_, on 08 May 2019 - 04:34 PM, said:

let me just

https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-tanks/world-of-tanks-2019-premium-ammo-rebalancing/

Google is your friend

 

That's like the 8th article on the subject over 4 years... No ones ever gonna change the system, its an archaic system remade to be more friendly(more free) yet in reality it just made the ammo more accessible.

This is my problem with Gold ammo, why does the same tank have two APCR shells they can fire, one has for example 190mm of penetration and the other has 240mm of penetration.... Its the same gun from the same tank yet the ammo which is exactly the same ammo does different things.. It doesn't make sense.


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View PostSiKiN, on 08 May 2019 - 03:38 AM, said:

 

That's like the 8th article on the subject over 4 years... No ones ever gonna change the system, its an archaic system remade to be more friendly(more free) yet in reality it just made the ammo more accessible.

This is my problem with Gold ammo, why does the same tank have two APCR shells they can fire, one has for example 190mm of penetration and the other has 240mm of penetration.... Its the same gun from the same tank yet the ammo which is exactly the same ammo does different things.. It doesn't make sense.

 

Just FYI, most IRL tanks carry multiple sort s of ammo for various situations.

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Sir_Direkin #33 Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:18 PM

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View PostFramFramson, on 08 May 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

Man, I remember trying to play X-Wing vs TIE Fighter using a trackpad.

 

At least it wasn't one of those Eraserhead "mice" the were the precursors to trackpads.

 

Oh god! You mean that red button thing from IBM Thinkpads?

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FramFramson #34 Posted 09 May 2019 - 01:15 AM

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View PostSir_Direkin, on 08 May 2019 - 06:18 AM, said:

 

Oh god! You mean that red button thing from IBM Thinkpads?

 

Yes! Hahahah. I wore several of those out - had to get a new rubber tip. Mostly from playing Civilization II.

 

For the confused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_stick

 

EDIT: Oh my god Lenovo still makes laptops with these things.


Edited by FramFramson, 09 May 2019 - 01:15 AM.

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View PostFramFramson, on 09 May 2019 - 01:15 AM, said:

EDIT: Oh my god Lenovo still makes laptops with these things.

 

Well, if your imagination is sick enough it does feel like a laptop's erogenous zone.

 

To be fair, I imagine that if I had a frozen shoulder then I'd prefer the pointing stick than a mouse or a trackpad.


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I remember those.

 

I was unproductive using it because I tended to close my eyes, imagining that hard disc whirring faster....



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I had a guy use gold against me last night in my M56 Scorpion, not just once but four times, that is definitely a player that doesn't understand the game.

spacewolf #38 Posted 10 May 2019 - 10:33 AM

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Am I the only one that just made a mental note to load gold when I see charcoal in his scorp?

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View Postspacewolf, on 09 May 2019 - 09:33 PM, said:

Am I the only one that just made a mental note to load gold when I see charcoal in his scorp?

 

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Well certainly if driving a 183.
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