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kyjo #1 Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:24 PM

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Skill MM is screwed, lost the last 15 in this tank. Every match I'm with 14 noobs. Just lost a game in less than 3 minutes.

kyjo #2 Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:33 PM

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make that 17 lol 

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View Postkyjo, on 16 June 2019 - 08:24 PM, said:

Skill MM is screwed, lost the last 15 in this tank. Every match I'm with 14 noobs. Just lost a game in less than 3 minutes.


We have skill mm now ? Wut ? 


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View Postafoxq, on 16 June 2019 - 10:39 PM, said:

We have skill mm now ? Wut ? 

It's true you know. All the bads are always on the worse team.


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AlexTheKid72 #6 Posted 17 June 2019 - 02:50 AM

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So three days ago I ragequit due to a wonderful 33% wr session. My efficiency was 5k for the session.
I had my tinfoil hat ready. ... but then 2 days ago I smashed out 64 games at 67% wr and yesterday managed 60% over 30 games, both with ok (for me) stats.

 

Like all the long timer forum trolls :P here keep saying, you have dips every now and then, coz statistics.



Matt_B #7 Posted 17 June 2019 - 04:51 AM

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I had a 12 game winning streak yesterday.

 

Just putting that out there for the people who say that long streaks only ever seem to be losing ones.



BadAtLightTanks #8 Posted 17 June 2019 - 06:18 AM

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View Postkyjo, on 16 June 2019 - 08:24 PM, said:

Skill MM is screwed, lost the last 15 in this tank. Every match I'm with 14 noobs. Just lost a game in less than 3 minutes.

 

I have lost 12 games in a row. I blamed the team for 4 of the losses as we were simply steam rolled. I blamed myself for the other 8 losses because I didn't  played my part to play smartly to secure a win.

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View PostBadAtLightTanks, on 17 June 2019 - 06:18 AM, said:

 

I have lost 12 games in a row. I blamed the team for 4 of the losses as we were simply steam rolled. I blamed myself for the other 8 losses because I didn't  played my part to play smartly to secure a win.

 

Quite a fair reflection , whenever I have losing streaks . I usually ponder on what I did wrong that caused the defeat .

 


 

 


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View Post_SukiKirai_, on 17 June 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

 

Quite a fair reflection , whenever I have losing streaks . I usually ponder on what I did wrong that caused the defeat .

 

 

The problem was me, I only play light tanks and I was obsessed with WN8 by trying to deal enough damage in my pew pew gun instead of doing my duty of spotting for my team. :facepalm:

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This was a bad game in all honesty because I broke every rule of playing a light tank by YOLOing to the enemy base alone to take out Arty and all the TDs guarding them. I was just plain darn lucky I managed to pull it off but if I keep taking on such stupid risks, I will ruin many future games for my team and myself.

 



Vindictus_Maximus #12 Posted 17 June 2019 - 07:21 AM

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The FV4005 is a weak link for your team. Same with the Deathstar, Grille15, and all those other passive TDs, that sit at the back basically wait for the rest of their team to die to get late damage.

 

This game is so much about map control. the assault TDs will be more likely to win the flank and the game. Same applies to the agro Meds and HTs, the ones with that get in the enemies face and dominate.

 

Stop playing the FV4005. More and more lately, tier8 premiums are getting bottom tier 3/5/7 matchmaking, and I am sick of all these auto lose game when my team is stuck with the useless FV4005s, Deathstars, and Grille15s. Stop playing it, and if you do, please be on the enemy team

 

 



Dread_Pirate_BlackHeart #13 Posted 17 June 2019 - 08:48 AM

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Also, there may have been an increase in rng influence per shot.

Originally it was supposed to be 15%, then bumped up to 25%, now possibly even higher.

 

Took my type 5 out for a spin yesterday and was shooting gold at 6800 credits a shot, enemy team had abundance of russian tier 10 heavy clones, so yeah great, obj 705a sits on top of ridge showing me his soft underbelly for total of 3 shots in a row from 50-75m away, i was right underneath him, all 3 shots of 6800 credit ammo, hit the weakest part of his tank for the BIG 250 dmg each.

 

Obviously due to the rng, and my extremely invaluable low contribution to the team, we lost badly. Oh and the enemy team was chock full o russian tanks, even their tier 9s.

Now I know type 5 has been nerfed, but that just makes it a huge handicap anchor drag to any team its paired with.

 

By soft underbelly, I'm not talking lower plate, I had shots into the floor of his tank. A very rare event indeed.


 



 


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3HitKO #15 Posted 17 June 2019 - 05:05 PM

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Geez you still keeping with that ultra-nerfed HESH silver eater?

 

1. Rough last 1-2 months I posted on Reddit to implore WG to fix FV4005's HESH so that players could go for AP shells as alternative
2. WG [edited]-slapped me by nerfing FV4005's gun even derpier,
3. WG dealt the final K.O. blow by killing FV4005's overall mobility (engine power, reverse speed and hull traverse)
4. FV4005 only beat Deathstar by its forward speed and terrain resistance(reaching top speed), But worse in everything else.
5. A big, fat JUICY 14mm turret with 0 mobility is asking FV4005 using its own HP to trade directly for its 1750 alpha, and it doesnt even guarantee 100% PEN shot.
6. Was about to tell myself to adapt the NERF, but WG again [edited]-slapped me again with Deathstar sales in Black Market, RIGHT AFTER the FV4005's nerf.
7. Felt its time to quit this game since WG like to kill off my most fav FV4005.
8. WG gave me a faint hope again by "leaked" the final Black Market tank sales, The Foch 155.
9. Foch 155 got everything I want as a huge alpha AP-shell Tank Destroyer.
10. No more shitty 1150 AP shell damage from a 14mm pinata with 0 mobility platform, 2250 alpha AP shell  with 293 PEN here I come.

Never look back since I got Foch 155 as my FV4005 replacement. (Mortgage everything which are recoverable)
Never interested in FV4005 HESH from the beginning.
Never regret even once my choice though I owe WG 25 millions of credits, just to replace that WG-fked-up-FV4005.

I repeat my question again. Why are you still clinging that FV4005? I am still regret the credit loss from shooting HESH 8000 credits per shot everytime I played that wretched FV4005.



Aoyama_Blue_Mountain #16 Posted 18 June 2019 - 12:20 AM

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You can see the accuracy of the gun in the video, how do you even snipe with that?

 

 

View Post3HitKO, on 17 June 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

6. Was about to tell myself to adapt the NERF, but WG again [edited]-slapped me again with Deathstar sales in Black Market, RIGHT AFTER the FV4005's nerf.

 

Funny, this is what Deathstar owners felt after FV4005 was released. You have a tank with pretty much the same usable amount of protection, more flexible turret, waaaaaaay bettter speed, and still better accuracy. All these allowing the FV4005 to move to locations and snipe while Deathstar has to get out, take a hit, wait for reticle, fire and do 700 damage, and reverse and usually die.

 

Oh and also

 

View Post3HitKO, on 17 June 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

2250 alpha AP shell  with 293 PEN here I come.

 

Lol.

 

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Edited by Aoyama_Blue_Mountain, 18 June 2019 - 12:22 AM.

Noobs don't snipe because they are good at snipe; noobs snipe because they can't do anything else / People don't lose because they lemming; people lemming because they are losers

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When you are not losing because you outnumber the enemy, your other flank is losing because they are outnumbered; it's just math

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 18 June 2019 - 12:20 AM, said:

You can see the accuracy of the gun in the video, how do you even snipe with that?

 

 

You snipe them in the face. I have nothing to say :P

 

Also, 4005 has this annoying peekaboo ability that 183 can't do simply because gun angles. Good for gouging out HT HP with HE without taking return damage except maybe from arty or APCR.

And for those who think F155 is coolbeans, well it ain't. It's actually a single-shot 155mm TD with a 40-second reload. The two other shells in the clip either automatically hit the earth or fly off into orbit.


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View Postmttspiii, on 17 June 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

You snipe them in the face. I have nothing to say :P

 

LOL that was my exact thought too. It's a Death Star; your targets need to be the size of a planet for you to be able to hit them.

Edited by FramFramson, 18 June 2019 - 02:47 AM.

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 18 June 2019 - 12:20 AM, said:

 

View Post3HitKO, on 17 June 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

6. Was about to tell myself to adapt the NERF, but WG again [edited]-slapped me again with Deathstar sales in Black Market, RIGHT AFTER the FV4005's nerf.

 

Funny, this is what Deathstar owners felt after FV4005 was released. You have a tank with pretty much the same usable amount of protection, more flexible turret, waaaaaaay bettter speed, and still better accuracy. All these allowing the FV4005 to move to locations and snipe while Deathstar has to get out, take a hit, wait for reticle, fire and do 700 damage, and reverse and usually die.

 

Oh and also

 

View Post3HitKO, on 17 June 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

2250 alpha AP shell  with 293 PEN here I come.

 

Lol.

 

All the experienced 555+ owners are waiting for the truth to hit you hard in the face.


I wont say much about Deathstar... Just try to get a FV4005 and drive it to compare with Deathstar:

1. As I do not own Deathstar to judge which one is the better/worse, but I do know how to perceive a tank is fun to shoot/drive based on soft stats.
2. Current FV4005 is faster than Deathstar in forward speed, on all terrain FV4005 can achieve top speed pretty early.
3. Current FV4005 is much much slower in reverse speed, it takes forever to retreat from peekaboo and even slower than Deathstar under STUN, with 14mm big squishy turret exposed to full HE damage.
4. Current FV4005 is more sluggish than Deathstar in hull traversing, especially in medium/soft terrain
5. Current FV4005's gun is derpier & aim longer, but we all know 0.38 gun bloom on Deathstar is seriously NOT FUN to shoot.

There are 3 factors which determine the effectiveness of having a flexible turret:
a. Turret size to hide when abusing that -10 deg depression/peekaboo
b. Turret armor which can defend itself when spotted/retreating
c. How fast you can pull back after firing peekaboo/ridgeline sniping

Current FV4005 has NONE of these 3 factors, since WG had killed its mobility to turn/retreat by hull. 14mm "flexible turret" has become a huge liability which absorb HE damage like a sponge.
At very least Deathstar has a workable 255-275mm turret when hull down.
Let me repeat again, there is no workable flexible turret on FV4005.

 

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 18 June 2019 - 12:20 AM, said:

You can see the accuracy of the gun in the video, how do you even snipe with that?

 

You snipe them in the face. I have nothing to say :P

 

Also, 4005 has this annoying peekaboo ability that 183 can't do simply because gun angles. Good for gouging out HT HP with HE without taking return damage except maybe from arty or APCR.

And for those who think F155 is coolbeans, well it ain't. It's actually a single-shot 155mm TD with a 40-second reload. The two other shells in the clip either automatically hit the earth or fly off into orbit.

 

Current FV4005 is guaranteed to take 100% full HE damage with its 14mm sponge turret, because 8kmh reverse speed cannot follow up with enemy HTs. Its even more evident now.

Please get a FV4005 and compare with Deathstar now, I wish I could swap my FV4005 with your Deathstar in order to survive in peekaboo/HT.

Foch 155 is like heaven if you can survive with FV4005 14mm turret. And I am actually hitting more shots in Foch 155 and contribute more for team than FV4005.

Maybe different playstyle?
If you getting used to handle 183mm, 152/155mm calibre, you should know that dispersion on paper is not really true.
Maybe my sense is getting used to 183mm derpy nature and adapted accordingly,
maybe this is why I able to handle Foch 155 gun so well that I feel its heaven compare to FV4005?


Edited by 3HitKO, 18 June 2019 - 12:40 PM.


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When was the 4005 nerfed ? O:

 

 





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